[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
i recently acquired a bottle of 1AD, 4AD, and some aromatest. just wondering whats the best way to stack all of these[/quote]
Did you even try looking for an answer before asking?
well i already know to take the aromatest after the cycle but i was just wondering if i should take two weeks of the 1AD and then two weeks of the 4AD or just take them all in a two week cycle.
[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
well i already know to take the aromatest after the cycle but i was just wondering if i should take two weeks of the 1AD and then two weeks of the 4AD or just take them all in a two week cycle.[/quote]
Have you tried 1AD or 4AD seperately? Stats?
no never have tried either products, but they came in a bundle package so i figured i give em both a go since i have the aromatest and a bottle of pct.
[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
no never have tried either products, but they came in a bundle package so i figured i give em both a go since i have the aromatest and a bottle of pct.[/quote]
How much do you weigh? I would say use them by themselves in 2 cycles, but you probably want to stack (I’m assuming they aren’t very weak). Don’t stack if you are under 21, or aren’t very heavy.
Doctors check ups are essential (if your blood pressure goes up make sure you tell the doctor that the supps could cause that, otherwise they might think the high BP is a one off like my doc did).
Have you looked at this?
i am 22, 6’2 221 lbs. thanks for the article it was really helpful. i am looking forward to taking it. i’ll put my stats up after i complete the cycle
I would run for 6 weeks if you have enough of both. What you have here is a “wet compound” and one which is actually a bit of an anti-estrogen. I would take two of each per day for 2 weeks, 3 of each per day for two weeks, then back down to 2 of each per day for the last two weeks. And of course PCT’s. Good for upwards of 10 lbs.
[quote]winkroar3 wrote:
I would run for 6 weeks if you have enough of both. What you have here is a “wet compound” and one which is actually a bit of an anti-estrogen. I would take two of each per day for 2 weeks, 3 of each per day for two weeks, then back down to 2 of each per day for the last two weeks. And of course PCT’s. Good for upwards of 10 lbs.[/quote]
Who is this in regards to? It’s easier when you quote what the person wrote and then post your reply. Taking two of one will only last me 4 weeks (30 days, 60 caps).
I always amazes me how many people are “afraid” of steroids. Think water retention and estrogen …then they sit there and say things like you’ll kill your liver or you’ll loose all your gains. There’s not one gear user who didn’t use gear one day and was fine afterwards. I think we here to much what if…what if…
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks[/quote]
Cycle support.
How are your stats looking?
[quote]Makavali wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks
Cycle support.
How are your stats looking?[/quote]
Liv-52 for support.
I’m 40years old, 5’ 10 barely, in the 180’s at a caliper tested 10% bf so most likely about 12-14%. Used to be REALLY fat dropped the fat but in the wrong sort of way. Spent a bit of time fixing that but at 40 the its a struggle to gain quality weight. Its easy for me to get regular blood work and my current work ups look fine.
Thanks
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
Makavali wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks
Cycle support.
How are your stats looking?
Liv-52 for support.
I’m 40years old, 5’ 10 barely, in the 180’s at a caliper tested 10% bf so most likely about 12-14%. Used to be REALLY fat dropped the fat but in the wrong sort of way. Spent a bit of time fixing that but at 40 the its a struggle to gain quality weight. Its easy for me to get regular blood work and my current work ups look fine.
Thanks
[/quote]
You might find you need more than liv.52. Something for blood pressure may be needed.
[quote]eigieinhamr wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
Makavali wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks
Cycle support.
How are your stats looking?
Liv-52 for support.
I’m 40years old, 5’ 10 barely, in the 180’s at a caliper tested 10% bf so most likely about 12-14%. Used to be REALLY fat dropped the fat but in the wrong sort of way. Spent a bit of time fixing that but at 40 the its a struggle to gain quality weight. Its easy for me to get regular blood work and my current work ups look fine.
Thanks
You might find you need more than liv.52. Something for blood pressure may be needed.[/quote]
My BP is consistantly around 117-120/65 but I’d not be opposed to taking something just in case. What would you suggest?
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
Makavali wrote:
JoeGood wrote:
After reading this thread and a lot more of other sites and sources I ahve decided on the following cycle.
Week 1-2: Halodrol
Week 2-4: Halodrol, Epistane
Week 4-6: Epistane
PCT: Nolva 40mg, 40mg, 20mg.
5 Week Normalization.
Repeat
Anybody see any issues with this I might have missed?
Thanks
Cycle support.
How are your stats looking?
Liv-52 for support.
I’m 40years old, 5’ 10 barely, in the 180’s at a caliper tested 10% bf so most likely about 12-14%. Used to be REALLY fat dropped the fat but in the wrong sort of way. Spent a bit of time fixing that but at 40 the its a struggle to gain quality weight. Its easy for me to get regular blood work and my current work ups look fine.
Thanks
You might find you need more than liv.52. Something for blood pressure may be needed.
My BP is consistantly around 117-120/65 but I’d not be opposed to taking something just in case. What would you suggest?[/quote]
My blood pressure went up to 155/85 on a superdrol cycle and this gave me cluster headaches, and if I was going to go on another I would probably get an Rx for it.
For a pheraplex cycle I used 12g fish oil and 6 cardipran100 spread throughout the day and that seemed to work pretty well.
I have heard nothing but good things about Havoc, for what its worth.
im on my 3rd day of PCT since i ended my very very long Epistane/Halodrol-50 cycle. So far im noticing ZERO muscle loss. But it is only the 3rd day.
Im keeping protein and creatine very high. the test is how hard i train tonight, i suspect the ‘difference’ will be demoralizing.
PCT = 40mg Nolva ED. 1 milk thistle cap too.
Plus i also want to get my nuts back to full swinging order asap… im taking 6 caps of 6-oxo per night because its a natural test booster and anti-E? thoughts?
my grissel nipples have disappeared thanks to nolva too.
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
im on my 3rd day of PCT since i ended my very very long Epistane/Halodrol-50 cycle. So far im noticing ZERO muscle loss. But it is only the 3rd day.
Im keeping protein and creatine very high. the test is how hard i train tonight, i suspect the ‘difference’ will be demoralizing.
PCT = 40mg Nolva ED. 1 milk thistle cap too.
Plus i also want to get my nuts back to full swinging order asap… im taking 6 caps of 6-oxo per night because its a natural test booster and anti-E? thoughts?
my grissel nipples have disappeared thanks to nolva too.[/quote]
I wouldn’t recommend 6-OXO for the nuts. Try something with 6-bromoandrostenedione.
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
im on my 3rd day of PCT since i ended my very very long Epistane/Halodrol-50 cycle. So far im noticing ZERO muscle loss. But it is only the 3rd day.
Im keeping protein and creatine very high. the test is how hard i train tonight, i suspect the ‘difference’ will be demoralizing.
PCT = 40mg Nolva ED. 1 milk thistle cap too.
Plus i also want to get my nuts back to full swinging order asap… im taking 6 caps of 6-oxo per night because its a natural test booster and anti-E? thoughts?
my grissel nipples have disappeared thanks to nolva too.[/quote]
How much of each did you run, and how long did you run it ?
You may need to run a pretty long PCT if you ran for something like 8-10 weeks.
WNM is back -and a fully qualified personal trainer, FINALLY! What an uphill shit-haul that was -not that I found the course work difficuilt,
I LOVE aquiring and sharing knowledge, but as for spending 3-5 week blocks with a bunch of spoilt, bitchy, niggly, rednecked KIDS (av. age 21)I also learned a hard lesson about not casting my black pearls before ignorant swine.
I’m going to quote Ms Aguilera:
"'Cause if it wasn’t for all of your torture
I wouldn’t know how to be this way now, and never back down
So I wanna say thank you
'Cause it makes me that much stronger
Makes me work a little bit harder
Makes me that much wiser
So thanks for making me a fighter
Made me learn a little bit faster
Made my skin a little bit thicker
It makes me that much smarter
So thanks for making me a fighter "
Back to the topic at hand: Due to my woes with Aus Customs and the unreliability of other “sourses”, I ordered 2 bottles of iFORSE 1.4 AD Bold 200 -and just like my friend, I recieved them, quarantine inspection sticker et al. I have been running 600mgED for just over 3 weeks and I am pretty impressed so far.
Will post photos at the end of my cycle. Only side effect I have noticed is an increased appetite, which means that I have succummed to certain cravings (usually for fresh Californian dates) a little more often than I should. The fuck-up stops HERE!