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[quote]egnatiosj wrote:
People from the burbs of mass are not stuntin those glasses look ridiculous.[/quote]
LOL
Like that even needed to be said…
[quote]egnatiosj wrote:
dont cycle unless your planning on doing it correctly NO MATTER THE COST.
People from the burbs of mass are not stuntin those glasses look ridiculous.[/quote]
who the fuck are you? nvm it doesnt matter.
this Havoc shit sucks. ive probaly only gained like 5 pounds. so much for shut down too, im into the 4th week and my nuts still hang out like unemployment.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
this Havoc shit sucks. ive probaly only gained like 5 pounds. so much for shut down too, im into the 4th week and my nuts still hang out like unemployment.[/quote]
Some people react differently to the compound than others. But for the most part, Havoc is pretty solid. Not MAG-10 solid, but still solid.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
egnatiosj wrote:
dont cycle unless your planning on doing it correctly NO MATTER THE COST.
People from the burbs of mass are not stuntin those glasses look ridiculous.
who the fuck are you? nvm it doesnt matter.[/quote]
lol I am an intelligent contributor to the forum, and you my friend seem like an obnoxious child, and considering the remark you made about Malcolm on a previous thread, an un-educated one at that. I also live in Mass, on Malcolm X blvd by Roxbury street, if you care to come visit
= )… You do not seem prepared to use steroids, or mature enough, youre just going to screw up your endocrine system. I would stop, ASAP if I were you.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
this Havoc shit sucks. ive probaly only gained like 5 pounds. so much for shut down too, im into the 4th week and my nuts still hang out like unemployment.[/quote]
As someone with a few legitimate steroid cycles under my belt before using Havoc I can say that it not a bad product, but it isn’t close to an injectable cycle. I gained 10 pounds on havoc and lost body fat. That was after a year off from anything though. You didn’t eat enough. Pretty much as simple as that.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
egnatiosj wrote:
People from the burbs of mass are not stuntin those glasses look ridiculous.
LOL
Like that even needed to be said… [/quote]
ROFLMAO
They look like glasses Elton John would wear!!!
I have done a few (3) PH cycles in the last year and a half the first two I ran where the CTD labs deca and novadex xt i did this twice and the third i ran was the mass and def stack CTD Labs Complete Mass and Definition Stack #4
(1 X Decabolen, 1 X Winadrol, 1 X Novedex XT, 1 X Liver Armor, 1 X Noxavol) after the stack i started the novadex xt like the bottle said but i am getting sensitive nipples i think it may be shutting me down any body have any suggestions
[quote]tibz wrote:
I have done a few (3) PH cycles in the last year and a half the first two I ran where the CTD labs deca and novadex xt i did this twice and the third i ran was the mass and def stack CTD Labs Complete Mass and Definition Stack #4
(1 X Decabolen, 1 X Winadrol, 1 X Novedex XT, 1 X Liver Armor, 1 X Noxavol) after the stack i started the novadex xt like the bottle said but i am getting sensitive nipples i think it may be shutting me down any body have any suggestions[/quote]
Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator.
do you have a site that you recomend for clomid
[quote]tibz wrote:
do you have a site that you recomend for clomid[/quote]
I reccommend research chemicals. Google.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
this Havoc shit sucks. ive probaly only gained like 5 pounds. so much for shut down too, im into the 4th week and my nuts still hang out like unemployment.
As someone with a few legitimate steroid cycles under my belt before using Havoc I can say that it not a bad product, but it isn’t close to an injectable cycle. I gained 10 pounds on havoc and lost body fat. That was after a year off from anything though. You didn’t eat enough. Pretty much as simple as that. [/quote]
maybe youre right.
but then again you used it after a year of nothing so gaining 10 pounds in addition to newb-gains isnt remarkable. idk, i plan on taking real gear next time. even though ill have half a bottle left.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
this Havoc shit sucks. ive probaly only gained like 5 pounds. so much for shut down too, im into the 4th week and my nuts still hang out like unemployment.
As someone with a few legitimate steroid cycles under my belt before using Havoc I can say that it not a bad product, but it isn’t close to an injectable cycle. I gained 10 pounds on havoc and lost body fat. That was after a year off from anything though. You didn’t eat enough. Pretty much as simple as that.
maybe youre right.
but then again you used it after a year of nothing so gaining 10 pounds in addition to newb-gains isnt remarkable. idk, i plan on taking real gear next time. even though ill have half a bottle left.[/quote]
A year of no anabolics. I was still the same weight as I was when I finished the cycle I did the year before. Slightly more bodyfat. I haven’t made “newb-gains” in more than 4 years. I put on 10 pounds with Havoc while playing 4 baseball games per week and lifting 4 days a week. If you dont eat it doesn’t really matter what kind gear you use.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Havoc ain’t no PH - it’s a steroid, albeit a legal one.
So what was the end result of the product in terms of size/strength gains and how much of it did you get to keep?
Anyone else try the epistane?
[/quote]
BUMP.
I used 6weeks Furazadrol 450mg and 4weeks Epistane 30mg a while back on a cut went from 262 - 240, while keeping all my strength/mass (keeping my strength/mass was the main purpose of the steroids). No sides either…besides a cramp here and there and a small bit of acne.
Hey guys, Just browsing through the PH articles. I am seeing some good gains with Decabolan and I’m using a liver protecter. I have used AAS in the past for about 5 cycles all were injectables. I loved the water based shit (It’s been about 10 years so forgive me). I just started out lifting again with a proper diet, maybe that is the reason for the gains w/ decabolan. I notice my muscle memory is coming back pretty fast.
Is it because of the decabolan or just “beginners after a layoff” results? I guess my question is, after the PCT, what would be a good PH to use for the next time around. BTW I’m 32 and 345lbs @ 6’5". Any suggestions. Thought the question should go here instead of general topics since it is about PHs.
After four weeks of H-Drol (50mg), do I really need to go balls out on Clomid?
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got enough Clomid to do 300 x 1, 100 x 11 and 50 x 12 and still have a handful left over to give away next Halloween.
I’m just wondering if I need all that for just four weeks of a PH?
Just trying to minimize sides. But if I’ve gotta, I’ve gotta.
I guess the Clomid PMS will be ok as long as I can get the huge elephant semen loads with it also.
But the permanent eye damage thing is worrisome. Is it? Some people seem real concerned, others laugh it off. I’m not sure where to stand on it.
Just seems to make sense I’d want to take the lowest effective dose possible, and it’s not like I’m doing a really long or harsh cycle.
Could I do something like Clomid @ 100 x 7 days, 50mg x 14 days?
[quote]Dick_In_A_Box wrote:
After four weeks of H-Drol (50mg), do I really need to go balls out on Clomid?
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got enough Clomid to do 300 x 1, 100 x 11 and 50 x 12 and still have a handful left over to give away next Halloween.
I’m just wondering if I need all that for just four weeks of a PH?
Just trying to minimize sides. But if I’ve gotta, I’ve gotta.
I guess the Clomid PMS will be ok as long as I can get the huge elephant semen loads with it also.
But the permanent eye damage thing is worrisome. Is it? Some people seem real concerned, others laugh it off. I’m not sure where to stand on it.
Just seems to make sense I’d want to take the lowest effective dose possible, and it’s not like I’m doing a really long or harsh cycle.
Could I do something like Clomid @ 100 x 7 days, 50mg x 14 days?[/quote]
Clomid is barely used anymore.
Most people use nolva or torefemine now.
That said, I noticed the eye thing when I used it for PCT, and you definitely get pissy, its from the high dose of estrogen.
SERMs are estrogens after all, just SELECTIVE estrogens.
I have not used clomid in a long time, and dont intend to agian.
Most people run hdrol at 75 mg/day and run it for more like 5-6 weeks.
Your cycle is a little light to be honest.
Your still going to need an SERM pct simply to catch any estrogen rebound.
I dont see a reason to dose the clomid at 300. 100 should be sufficient.
any one have experience with kilo sports trenadrol I have read conflicting reports some say that it is very weak and others say they have gained 18 to 20 lbs on the stuff. Thinking about bridging this with decabolen.