ProHormones-All You Need to Know

[quote]The Manthony wrote:
eigieinhamr wrote:
The Manthony wrote:
Westclock wrote:
The Manthony wrote:
Molecularscience wrote:
If I am taking Nolva wouldn’t 6oxo be Unnecessary ? Or would it help? If I did use it would I use it in conjunction with the Nolva or would I wait until I’m done with the Nolvadex?

im struggling to work this out myself. im running nolva at the moment… and i have 6-oxo. i think it cant hurt to use it, it wont make nolva less effective.

Certainly its ok to take 6oxo, I would avoid AI’s unless your taking something like HCG.

Some like to use nolva with HCG and Adex to instantly try to restart production, using the SERM and Adex to prevent HCG from suppressing.

But oxo isnt actually strong enough to do much, theres no real reason not to take it, although I wouldn’t bother.

im almost 2 weeks into PCT and my boys are still at about 55% size. how much longer until they are shwingin again?

Have you used anything for them?

no HCG if thats what you mean. i have been running nolva 40mg ed and trib and milk thistle. they are just taking longer than expected to bounce back.[/quote]

You could try something with 6-bromoandrostenedione. I used AX advanced PCT and didn’t have a problem with shrinkage.

sounds good. ill grab some for my next cycle. cant be bothered now, i still get a great pump while training. and i havent lost an ounce of muscle.

If you can get HCG, you can get test.

Just sayin’.

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[quote]Makavali wrote:
If you can get HCG, you can get test.

Just sayin’.

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can get test locally and hcg imported but thats risky.

Don’t get me wrong, I was merely pointing out that if you could get HCG and chose to use it, then you probably wouldn’t screw around with Pro hormones.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Don’t get me wrong, I was merely pointing out that if you could get HCG and chose to use it, then you probably wouldn’t screw around with Pro hormones.[/quote]

thats a good point.

i like being able to say ‘no’ when people ask me if im on roids.

[quote]The Manthony wrote:
Makavali wrote:
Don’t get me wrong, I was merely pointing out that if you could get HCG and chose to use it, then you probably wouldn’t screw around with Pro hormones.

thats a good point.

i like being able to say ‘no’ when people ask me if im on roids.[/quote]

You could just lie.

If it was a long cycle keep running the nolva dont stop just because the 4 weeks are up…keep going until the boys are back in town.

Lol, mate I wouldn’t say no. What PH did you last have? A PH or a designer Steroid?

lol designer hahaha. epistane and halodrol-50.

if its sold as a supplement its a supplement! hahaha

i used gear once. was fun. might do it again one day but i think i look good now so ill keep using designers.

just got to my mailbox, brown paper package had been opened and resealed by customs… inside was the rest of my clomid PLUS 120 tabs of ephedrine. yipee! fatburners!

[quote]The Manthony wrote:
just got to my mailbox, brown paper package had been opened and resealed by customs… inside was the rest of my clomid PLUS 120 tabs of ephedrine. yipee! fatburners![/quote]

And yet they hold up my 11-OXO. You have to wonder some times

the packaging was so shifty though haha. they split up the clomid to make it look like a sample pack and they wrapped the ephedrine in wads of cardboard and sticky-tape.

customs put a sticker on it saying “inspected: vitamin sample”

im on the ECA stack now on day 1 and whoa an i proficient. im running a million miles an hour OMGBBQ i cant stop typing…

[quote]The Manthony wrote:
the packaging was so shifty though haha. they split up the clomid to make it look like a sample pack and they wrapped the ephedrine in wads of cardboard and sticky-tape.

customs put a sticker on it saying “inspected: vitamin sample”

im on the ECA stack now on day 1 and whoa an i proficient. im running a million miles an hour OMGBBQ i cant stop typing…
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I love the sound of that energy boost, focus, drive, and brain clarity. I just fear using it more than 2 or 3 times a week would lead to adrenal fatigue and be counter productive. I respond strongly to stimulants and even coffee gives me about 1/2 hour of euphoria. I took 2 HOT-ROX in the am before training a week back or so and loved the effects. Problem was I had difficulty sleeping that night. The effect lasts quite a few hours on me. How long before you are back at baseline with the ECA stack?

Where do you dudes get your ECA? PM a brother.

??? You can get it from corner stores. There is a NOCO around my area that sells it with Guaifenesin. The HCl kind too. You can get it behind the counter of your local drug store also, like Rite aid.

I posted in a few weeks that I will be starting my first cycle of Epistane. I have a few more questions however before I proceed and I have been having issues finding the info I need through a search.

I read somewhere that someone was taking flax oil or fish oil with their epistane to help with increased absorption. I cannot find that article or post however. Does anyone know if this holds true or should I just take it on an empty stomach.

It was also suggested to me on this forum that I should look into more supps in my Pct besides just using Nolvadex. It was suggested using tribulus and 6OXO and Rosea Rhosila. How would I go about using these? Would using 6OXO be bad as epistane is somewhat of an AI and 6OXO is supposed to be an AI so wouldn’t using 6OXO just prolong the “healing process”?

Thanks for all the help

-MScience

[quote]Molecularscience wrote:
I posted in a few weeks that I will be starting my first cycle of Epistane. I have a few more questions however before I proceed and I have been having issues finding the info I need through a search.

I read somewhere that someone was taking flax oil or fish oil with their epistane to help with increased absorption. I cannot find that article or post however. Does anyone know if this holds true or should I just take it on an empty stomach.

It was also suggested to me on this forum that I should look into more supps in my Pct besides just using Nolvadex. It was suggested using tribulus and 6OXO and Rosea Rhosila. How would I go about using these? Would using 6OXO be bad as epistane is somewhat of an AI and 6OXO is supposed to be an AI so wouldn’t using 6OXO just prolong the “healing process”?

Thanks for all the help

-MScience[/quote]

If Makavali doesn’t read this, PM him, in regards to the taking PH’s with oil. Other drugs (well, herbs) would be Liv. 52 for your liver, if you feel it’s gonna do you good.

honestly havoc/epistane is very mild.

excellent job by the companies, effective and not extremely toxic like old school stuff.

6oxo is so weak its not going to hurt anything, its just a waste of cash.

Trib is kinda unproven, if you like it, run it, nothing wrong with it specifically.

milk thristle or liv52 is what you need.

I dont think most of the other supps are going to help noticably, agian epistane is very mild.

Epistane is fat soluble I’m told. Take Flameout or regular fish oil.

Liv52 ftw, does a better job than plain ol’ Milk Thistle.

I’ve moved from taking 6-oxo pct to using it while I am using pheraplex. I have noticed a bit more in the recovery factor, but nothing major. We’ll see in a couple of weeks when I’m on the last week of the cycle if it was worth the 6-oxo