So I am considering taking superdrol or havoc or something, but want to make sure I have PCT in place before I order. I understand that nolvadex is the way to go, but I’m not sure how to get it. Are the non prescription PCT’s worthless?
[quote]mmclifter wrote:
Are the non prescription PCT’s worthless?[/quote]
Very worthless.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
mmclifter wrote:
Are the non prescription PCT’s worthless?
Very worthless.[/quote]
Indeed.
You might as well kiss your balls goodbye.
To get a real PCT the easiest method is research chemicals, do a little research its not hard to find.
Or you can straight up ask someone by PM.
Hey westlock. can someone explain the whole research chemicals concept? are there dealers who ship PCT gear masquerading as research chem companies?
i just get mine from online pharmacies.
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
Hey westlock. can someone explain the whole research chemicals concept? are there dealers who ship PCT gear masquerading as research chem companies?
i just get mine from online pharmacies. [/quote]
Online pharmacies are likely going to be actual human grade products.
Research chems are liquid suspensions made from pure powder stocks.
They can legally sell them legally just not for “human consumption” its a legal loophole.
From a reputable company you are good to go, finding a good company is the hard part.
Its generally cheaper, although you need to dose it just a little higher to compensate for inaccuracies in measuring.
As long as you have a good company its not a problem, especially with PH’s, for a real cycle its probably better to spring for pham grade stuff.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
The Manthony wrote:
Hey westlock. can someone explain the whole research chemicals concept? are there dealers who ship PCT gear masquerading as research chem companies?
i just get mine from online pharmacies.
Online pharmacies are likely going to be actual human grade products.
Research chems are liquid suspensions made from pure powder stocks.
They can legally sell them legally just not for “human consumption” its a legal loophole.
From a reputable company you are good to go, finding a good company is the hard part.
Its generally cheaper, although you need to dose it just a little higher to compensate for inaccuracies in measuring.
As long as you have a good company its not a problem, especially with PH’s, for a real cycle its probably better to spring for pham grade stuff.[/quote]
right so its cool if i stick with my tamodex tabs. Can you get anabolics through research chem sites?
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
right so its cool if i stick with my tamodex tabs. Can you get anabolics through research chem sites?[/quote]
Unfortunately, no. Not that I would know, or anything,
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[quote]Makavali wrote:
The Manthony wrote:
right so its cool if i stick with my tamodex tabs. Can you get anabolics through research chem sites?
Unfortunately, no. Not that I would know, or anything,
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Actually a few research chem sites got busted for selling test that was in like a “members only” section or some shit.
But no all legal research chem sites do not sell anabolic, or they get pinched.
And yes your nolva is likely better quality than research stuff, but not noticeably so, biggest difference is ease of taking it, and ease of getting the exact dosing.
dude there are so many online roid dealers ay. the biggest problem is customs
[quote]The Manthony wrote:
dude there are so many online roid dealers ay. the biggest problem is customs[/quote]
There are plenty of online roid dealers that are in-state as well.
But they operate on a “dealer” system usually through secure emails.
They don’t have a site that is accessible, they operate through email and by referral so its pretty much impossible to trace.
Research chem sites operate legally and within bounds of government regulation.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
The Manthony wrote:
dude there are so many online roid dealers ay. the biggest problem is customs
There are plenty of online roid dealers that are in-state as well.
But they operate on a “dealer” system usually through secure emails.
They don’t have a site that is accessible, they operate through email and by referral so its pretty much impossible to trace.
Research chem sites operate legally and within bounds of government regulation.[/quote]
i often wish i lived over there, the land of cheap, easy steroid use. Here its scarse unless you have good sources (which i do) and it carries very serious penalties.
Our customs are the most shrewd on the planet too.
[quote]esk221 wrote:
Hey guys, just bought a couple bottles of Bold. I’ve read some places that guys have been going up to a gram a day and have been running that dosage for as long as 8-12 weeks. Is there any advantage to this method or will I get results running it at 800mg ED for 4 weeks?[/quote]
Anybody?
[quote]esk221 wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Hey guys, just bought a couple bottles of Bold. I’ve read some places that guys have been going up to a gram a day and have been running that dosage for as long as 8-12 weeks. Is there any advantage to this method or will I get results running it at 800mg ED for 4 weeks?
Anybody?[/quote]
I answered this question a page back.
Most males run boldenone (the real steroid) at 800-1000mg/week.
600 mg/week is considered by many to be the minimum effective dose.
Since your BOLD has about a 15% conversion factor, you going to need to run a little less than 1000mg/day, 950mg/day by the conversion factor, but probably more… to get the equivalent dose of boldenone.
800mg/day of BOLD would be approximantly 840mg/week boldenone.
Just pick your dosage, its pretty simple.
Of course running more of steroid will be more effective, noticeably so ? depends on the person.
If its your first time using the product I would say 800mg/day would be a good dose.
Thanks dude!
im gonna take that 1AD 4AD cycle in about a week. i bought enough to run 600mg of each for 6 weeeks just wondering if i should take novla or clomid and what dosage should i use? any suggestions?
[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
im gonna take that 1AD 4AD cycle in about a week. i bought enough to run 600mg of each for 6 weeeks just wondering if i should take novla or clomid and what dosage should i use? any suggestions?[/quote]
Yes.
Nolva - 40/40/20/20
works a charm.
[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
im gonna take that 1AD 4AD cycle in about a week. i bought enough to run 600mg of each for 6 weeeks just wondering if i should take novla or clomid and what dosage should i use? any suggestions?[/quote]
The nolva versus clomid debate is long and complex.
The general consensus is nolva is better, simply because you have to use less of it thus limiting side effects like vision problems and depression.
The standard protocol is generally something like 40/40/20/20.
Theres alot of studies that show that 20/20/20/20 is just as effective, ect, ect.
Nolva is cheap, overkill will not hurt anything, Id run it with the 40/40/20/20 just incase.
[quote]Westclock wrote:
wreckingB@ll wrote:
im gonna take that 1AD 4AD cycle in about a week. i bought enough to run 600mg of each for 6 weeeks just wondering if i should take novla or clomid and what dosage should i use? any suggestions?
The nolva versus clomid debate is long and complex.
The general consensus is nolva is better, simply because you have to use less of it thus limiting side effects like vision problems and depression.
The standard protocol is generally something like 40/40/20/20.
Theres alot of studies that show that 20/20/20/20 is just as effective, ect, ect.
Nolva is cheap, overkill will not hurt anything, Id run it with the 40/40/20/20 just incase.[/quote]
Also my doctor told me he would consider chlomid much more harmful than taking nolva.
[quote]wreckingB@ll wrote:
im gonna take that 1AD 4AD cycle in about a week. i bought enough to run 600mg of each for 6 weeeks just wondering if i should take novla or clomid and what dosage should i use? any suggestions?[/quote]
I heard there was a big difference between the dione and diol formula. The new one being the dione.
I have done a lot of research and silently watch over this forum for a while and figure to give Epistane a go next month.
My stats are:
Weight 205lb.
Height: 6 feet
Age:23
Here’s what I think I will go for my dosages.
Week 1: 10,10,20,20,20,20,20
Week 2: 20,20,20,20,20,20,20
Week 3: 30,30,30,30,30,30,30
Week 4: 40,40,40,40,40,40,40
The supps I will be taking while on cycle. I have already started taking Milk thistle, Saw Palmetto, and Hawthorne Berry Extract.
On Cycle Supps.
Fish oil
Flax seed oil
Milk Thistle 4 caps daily = 600mg
Saw Palmetto 540 mg caps 3x daily
Sesamin- 1g/day
Taurine- 2-3g/day
Potassium: more than 1g daily
Cissus- 2g/daily
Hawthorne Berry extract 1 cap/day
CoQ10- 30 mg 2-3 times daily
Perfect cycle 2 caps daily
PCT
Week 5: Nolvadex 40mg,
Week: 6 : 40mg
Week 7: 20 mg
I figured I would post here before I started just so if I missed anything then I could get some advice on whatever it is. Thanks.