EQ is something I have considered. Going to do test only first, but I know EQ is popular for strength.
I powerlift, I personally dont see a massive advantage to having a lot of extra bodyfat unless you intend to compete in the super heavyweight class with no top weight limit. At the point it’s a free for all. I personally stay on trt/cruise dose for the majority of the time and only blast when my pre cycle bloods look healthy. I’m probably never going to be a world record holder anyway, and I’d rather be cautious health wise. My stats are 6’ 1" 223 and 14% bf currently. I think the total you are aiming for is doable in your current weight class for sure. I’d be more tempted to cut and bulk until you fill out your weight class at a leaner bodyweight first before considering moving up.
I have a met in feb and I compete in the 82kg class .Usually I hover around the low 90s in the offseason but with gear, recomping is easy as fuck tbh.
I don’t really compete to win, but to improve my lifts and set personal goals. I have won my weight class before, but not the overall meet.
My point is would it be healthier to use AAS to lift certain goal weights at a lower BW, or bulk up to hit them natty.
I am pretty convinced that since I am on TRT, using a bit more test for a couple months makes more sense than being heavy. Just wanted other opinions.
I don’t plan on running cycle level for a while, and I am at like 1370 lb total currently, so I will probably hit 1500 lbs on TRT only. However, I know I won’t be satisfied at that total and will want more.
Comparing weight for weight, at a gym I used to go to, if you had a natty and an enhanced lifter lifting similar weights, the natty lifter would always be carrying 20-30lbs more fat. The enhanced lifer, would be able to maintain a relatively leaner look
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Run trt year round. Add in short ester test or dbol or both depending on your experience for 6-8 weeks prior to a contest.
Dosages I’d keep the trt dosage and tack on 100mg of test prop eod and 20mg of dbol ed.
Then go back to normal trt.
Why short ester? Wouldn’t Test C or E be just as good if you are planning on being on TRT after? I suppose an advantage would be blood work with the doc.
I’ve always heard the bro science that BBers take dbol spread out through out the day every day, and PLers take is pre-workout. I like the idea of pre-workout as I could use less overall.
I take 150 mg Test C for TRT so you recommend adding about 350 mg of prop to that. Dose of 500 mg/wk makes sense.
At 20 mg dbol ED, could that be run for 8 weeks? seems low enough?
Probably, yes. How your liver responds will be slightly different than others, but that isn’t a huge dose nor is that an extended time period for a lower dose.
I have noticed about the same. I am not lean at the moment, but not fat either (so I am basically the first guy in your example). I would say most people can tell I lift. I can hit some big lifts compared to the most people, but in PLing, I am pretty average.
For strength, would you recommend ED dosing or pre-workout?
You wanna prioritize health and yet get stronger. Not being on long cycles helps this. Short esters kick in faster and leave faster. A quick pop before the contest.
You don’t need 500/wk. Continue your normal 150 and add the 300. 50mg ain’t gonna matter.
I ran dbol at 20mg for 8 weeks and gained strength and 24lbs for a contest. A lot depends on how good your dbol is. I have gotten stuff running it at 50mg that didn’t do anything. Good dbol you know within a few days.
Sounds good.
FYI, 100 mg EOD works out to 350 mg/wk. No big deal, I’m just a math nerd.
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I think if the goal is maximum muscle gain then twice a day makes more sense. For your goal of pure strength PW is going to be better. Half-life is like six hours, max, I believe? Don’t quote me on that.
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At that dose would I need anything additional? I don’t know much about liver support.
TUDCA taken ~3hrs after you dose the dbol. Probably NAC every am.