Primo and OT Cycle Update

Pharma / TRT
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Hey guys,

Well it has been 2 full weeks and whoally cr@p do I feel like a bag of monkey a$$. I am def getting more jacked (I am up 8lbs from starting weight) but my libido is starting to tank, my nuts are shrinking by the day, my appetite is pretty much gone because I am feeling soo ill and bloated, and the injections are each swollen to the point that I am hobbling around like a war vet so my workouts have sucked. I haven’t been able to run at all so I am starting to gain back some of the fat that I had lost prior to the cycle when I was taking Alpha Male. I have to say I definitely am not feeling like HE-MAN.

I am thinking of changing things up a bit.
I am currently doing this:
W 1-8 40mg OT ED (split into 4 doses through the day)
W 1-12 600mg PrimoE EW (split into 2 shots)

seeing as how my nuts are taking it on the chin and I feel like Sh!te I might as well add some test so that the cycle looks like this.

W 1-4 40mg OT ED
W 1-12 300mg PrimoE EW
W 4-16 500mg TestE EW
W 4-16 0.5mg Adex

I might add some Nolva for PCT depending on how I feel. Otherwise I would do a test taper.

Any advice on this would be great cause I gotta change things up.

FG

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Well structured! Anyone cand find something wrong with anything but that will work just fine for you. I like keep it simple and good job man. Let me know how it goes man.

bis

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how do you even afford all that primo?

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So the Primo shots are causing swelling, fever and pain? Ah man. That sucks.

Test E should not do that but then again the reason to take Primo is because it SHOULD have less sides, at least make for an easier post cycle…

BTW I consider pain and swelling side effects!

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Sorry to hear that bro. To be honest I’m noticing similar problems with my primo although I thought it was the prop. I did a seperate injection 1 cc primo in my right delt and 1 cc prop in my left quad.

They’re both pretty sore and I feel kinda flu-ish. I’m was using 400-500 mg a week of primo, I had a feeling that at a lower dose the body aches ect. would be less.

When I dropped down to 300 mg it was much better. Now I’m done with it and back on tren for 3-4 weeks then it’s time to put away the pins for awhile…once I’m done with my test taper…and not my slin pins I’ll still need them for my HGH/slin :slight_smile:

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I think you have to have some test…I started my current cycle 50 mgs OT w/ 1000 mgs of Primo and 1200 of Cyp for the 1st 5 weeks and then jsut switched to a Prop/Tren/Mast blend.

I loved the Primo/CYP and had no issues of lethargy or tiredness…

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Hey Wideguy any chance you would email me a copy of your BTPB?? If so 'll pm you my email addy, let me know.

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area that I injected is swollen and fcuked up to some degree. I can still feel knots in both of my quads and one of the injections was a full week ago (the knots seem to have moved downstream from the injection…ie I injected in the middle outer quad and the swelling and knots go down to my knees).

The second VG shot is still swollen and red (it took a cuple of shots in my rugby game which made it angry)…that shot was about 10 days ago. I have also been bloated like crazy. This could have just be my bodies initial reaction to increasing my cals as it has gotten better when I dropped the cals back down a bit.

Fewer sides was why I chose primo and OT but this isn’t working so I am gonna try to mix in the test and lower the dose on the others to see if that helps.

As to how I can afford all the Primo I am 27 with no mortgage or kids and a 6 figure income. I spend a lot on my girlfriend but she makes almost as much as I do so it goes both ways. I work my ass off to make the cash I do which means less time to work out so I allow myself to spend whatever i want.

FG

[quote]SwD wrote:
So the Primo shots are causing swelling, fever and pain? Ah man. That sucks.

Test E should not do that but then again the reason to take Primo is because it SHOULD have less sides, at least make for an easier post cycle…

BTW I consider pain and swelling side effects!

[/quote]

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Well fu*k, this does NOT sound right.

You should not be getting ANYTHING like the sides you mention.

If I didn’t know better, I would say that someone has sold you a’drol not OT, and shit quality primo, brewed with FAR too much BA.

Where did you get your gear from? PM me if you’d rather. This SUCKS, and you should NOT be paying good money for this kind of experience!

I’m not trying to crow here, but as an example, I just brewed a blend of test E (150mg/ml), primo E (200mg/ml) and masteron E (75mg/ml). This gives a total conc. of 425mg/ml. OK, so I cheated and used a spare bottle of ‘Majic oil’ that I had lying around (hence it wasn’t so much a ‘brew’, more a stick-it-all-in-heat-and-filter type gig), but there is ZERO pain with these shots, even with the superhigh total conc.

Primo should not be painful, should DEFINITELY not bloat you, and OT should also NOT cause bloating.

Yes, if you rapidly increased high GI carbs, then you might get a LITTLE extra water retention, but thats it.

I’m pissed off for you. PM me and we’ll have a chat.

bushy[/quote]

Whats up Bushy. I was thinking the same thing.

FG, what are your goals? Primo and OT are usually used for cut and very lean mass. If these are your goals I would use Test Prop instead of Test E, the Test E will cause some water retention.

IMO and my experience. good luck,

JW

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ya, cut up and add lean mass was the goal. I don’t want to add to much weight because I am playing rugby which requires strength and endurance (strength comes with the weight but you add too much mass and you have trouble running).
The goal was 10lbs lbm gain with a little fat loss. I was on track for that but the sides were bad so i dropped te doses a bit to 30mg OT/d and 400mg primo/w and reduced the cals a bit. I have dropped back from 228lbs (my heaviest ever) to 225lbs (my normal weight but leaner than usual) which sucks but I have lost a lot of the bloat that was happening and still feel stronger.

I am thinking of tweaking the plan again to this:

W 4-12 TestE 300mg/w, MastE 300mg/w, PrimoE 300mg/w
W 12-17 TestE and MastE (50/50) taper (start at 400mg/w and drop down to 25mg by the end)

with this lineup I was gonna drop the adex and just keep some nolva on hand in case i needed it.

The masteron should take care of any estrogen issues at that low a dose of the TestE. I should still have enough total androgens to get good results but not enough of any one to get bad sides. if the boys aren’t rebounding by the end I have the nolva to give em a boost.

Any advice appreciated as always.

FG