blam, sadly even on the road I make sure I have my Surge at hand. If you’re not a fanatic (or obsessive compulsive) like me, I suggest chocolate milk.
It may surprise you to find out that the worlds leading researcher in this field has a tuna sandwich after his workouts!
I’m not aware of any supplements to combat thyroid downregulation, but HOT-ROX has a proprietary formula -meaning that the ingredients and their amounts are a closely guarded secret.
Cy knows the secret formula, so I’ll be sure to ask him and get back to you tomorrow.
In my experience, metabolism questions are rarely simple. LOL
We have a conversion of fructose to glucose, which is then used for glycogen restoration.
Barr
[quote]blam wrote:
Hey David Barr,
Since you seem to travel a lot what is your favirote pre/post workout foods when on the road and you cant get your hands on all the fancy stuff like Surge?
My Thyroid hormones down-regulate pretty damn fast when I diet. Leads to a bunch of nasty stuff like lowering of my body temp. Any supplements out their that can actually combat this?
Some studies I have seen seem to show that sucrose does a pretty damn good job of restoring muscle glyocgen after working out. My impression was that fructose cannot be used to restore muscle glycogen but some studies show that even pure fructose leads to some glycogen restoration pwo(albeit less then sucrose or pure glucose). My question is simple, how does fructose lead to any muscle glycogen restoration?
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bigpump, I’m a huge fan of lycopene and processed tomatoes for their anti-cancer effects, but also the potential anti-hypertensive effects.
I’m researching green tea quite a bit because everyone around me seems to be dieting. The more I read, the more I like it.
I hate to admit it because I’m pretty focused on bulking foods, but vegetables in general seems to have anti-cancer effects. It’s crazy that the more we learn about them, the better they seem to be for us!
I’m sure orange juice will eventually be considered a wonder food if it’s not so already.
Hope this helps!
[quote]bigpump23 wrote:
DB- I acked this question to LL last night but I want your opinion as well
It seems everyday new research comes out that such and such food or such and such supplement can help prevent cancer. What do YOU think are the most promsing food vitamins or food supplements that may help in preventing cancer?[/quote]
pages 16-17 for somewhat of a picture. They won’t let up, we have two tomorrow(conditioning afterwards and redzone scrimmage after the practices “live”) and then a full blown up scrimmage next day. 3 weeks, no days off or breaks except 3 hours which I hobble to the ice bath and eat and try to get in a nap. I was at 218 and now I am under 210. I’m looking pretty ripped like a body builder and I may be getting close to 200 pounds skinny again. I am nervous about my work over the summer and then just like that it’s getting worn away so quickly. Really upsetting because I felt so powerful at the start and I felt better.
I’m losing fat for sure and I’m squating 135 for 10 reps today and it aches. We have only lifted 3 times total.
I need to be drinking more water because I’m getting in trouble there too.
If your appetite is getting out of control, you could try Hoodia Gordonii. It’s a herb reported to suppress appetite.
Also, keep your fats up more often, so you’ll feel satiated longer.
Boston was great, but when I only see my GF 4X a year, one week together is never enough.
[quote]mike hanley wrote:
DB How goes it? Nothing exciting going on down here in jersey. I have just about 5 weeks until showtime and the calories are slowly dimininshing. I am getting hungrier & hungrier by the week. Strength is still good. Keeping my fat up on my lower carb days. How’s things in boston?[/quote]
Bauer, are you asking why I don’t suggest anything but Surge? It’s the combination of the ideal ingredients along with the great taste that I like.
Whey isolate isn’t bad per se, it’s just not as easy to optimize your amino acid levels with it. Much like trying to spike insulin with fructose (for example).
I like sucrose (a LOT) but it won’t spike your blood sugar like glucose/malto.
Hope that helps!
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
From your articles, I conclude that you are obviously in support of pre and post workout drinks, but are hesitant to endorse a peri-workout drink of similar formulation.
Any specifics on your stance as to why you do/don’t recommed this? I currently drink a sucrose/whey isolate mix during training, no good?[/quote]
It’s interesting to see supplement stores around town, because they all sell the same crap, just made by unheard of manufacturers. Of course the prices are crazy because most of the products have to be imported, then there’s the 15% tax on top of that.
Having said that, I was very happy to receive my shipment from Biotest today, so I don’t have to worry about inferior products with ungodly prices.
I’ve started using Spike before my workouts with great success. While I’ve used Spike before writing or while driving, I hadn’t really experimented with it pre-workout.
What’s really cool is that although it doesn’t give you a stimulant jolt when you don’t want it, Spike seems to really get me into my workouts.
I don’t know if it’s just a concentration thing, but it feels like more than that.
I’m just amazed that it has seemingly divergent effects, tailored to whatever I need at the time.
So no, I’m not desperately trying to get you to endorse another formulation besides Surge, I am fully convinced it is a fantastic formula. I’m just wondering about your stance on a drink during the workout, in addition to the pre and post drinks. Is it worthwhile to have a drink of similiar or identical formulation to Surge during a resistance training workout, with the hopes of promoting anabolism and all that good stuff for muscle growth?
Also, since I just need to ask more than 1 question per post, plus I just think your “BauerI” and “BauerII” responses are pretty awesome, here goes another:
In your post workout myth article, I remember you citing some research showing that the best protein source for a 2nd post-workout meal is yet another protein shake. Is this a practice you use, and if not, what’s a typical second post-workout meal you’d recommend/use yourself for maximizing muscle size while minimizing fat gain?
[quote]David Barr wrote:
sam, it’s not going to hurt to add BCAA’s to Surge, but at some point you’ll experience diminishing returns.
In other words, the effect of adding more and more BCAA’s diminishes, the more we add. Otherwise, there’d be no ceiling for protein synthesis.
I’d save my money and have multiple Surge drinks, or Low-Carb Grow! before bed etc.
sam747 wrote:
Hey Dave,
What do you think about adding some BCAA powder to Surge pre/post workout. Any benefit to having some extra aminos floating around?[/quote]
I do all that already, are you saying adding some BCAA powder to a pre and post Surge drink is overkill? Sorry, just thought you were saying it was a good idea before.
Bauer III, don’t forget that when you consume a drink pre workout, it stays in your body for the duration of the workout.
In fact, pure amino acids consumed before a workout, stay in the blood for up to an hour POST workout!
Blood sugar stays elevated too -at least in my case (but this is not universal). I always suggest that people have a sucrose or glucose drink ready when they first try pre workout meals… just in case.
This is why you don’t need a drink during the workout, if you’ve consumed a pre workout meal.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
I’m just wondering about your stance on a drink during the workout, in addition to the pre and post drinks. Is it worthwhile to have a drink of similiar or identical formulation to Surge during a resistance training workout, with the hopes of promoting anabolism and all that good stuff for muscle growth?[/quote]
Bauer IV, I only have a second Post workout meal if I’ve really killed myself during that particular workout. It’s just a personal thing, but 3 drinks in a row is a bit much for me.
I’m pretty consistent at having my pre workout Surge, and a single post workout Surge. Then I have pretty much anything with a high nutrient density.
Unless, you’re not training hard, anyone should be able to handle a nutrient dense meal as their second PWO meal. Fat gain shouldn’t be an issue.
I often go with macaroni and cheese with a can of tuna and mixed vegetables thrown in.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
In your post workout myth article, I remember you citing some research showing that the best protein source for a 2nd post-workout meal is yet another protein shake. Is this a practice you use, and if not, what’s a typical second post-workout meal you’d recommend/use yourself for maximizing muscle size while minimizing fat gain?[/quote]
sam, I prefer powders so I can measure them out. The only real thing to look for is that they are a light powder and taste very bitter.
EAA’s (or Essential Amino Acids) are a broader class of aa’s to which the BCAA’s belong. Basically they are the aminos we need to consume in the diet because our body can’t make them.
EAA’s include the BCAA’s, tryptophan, phenylalanine etc.
[quote]sam747 wrote:
Sorry Dave, saw you answered this. Are all brands pretty much the same anything to look for. What is the diff between EAA and BCAA?
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samIII, not overkill per se, it’s not just something I’d focus on unless everything else is in order and you can afford it.
The law of Diminishing returns doesn’t obviate the practice, it’s just something we need to be aware of so we don’t reach the point of overkill.
Hope that makes more sense!
[quote]sam747 wrote:
I do all that already, are you saying adding some BCAA powder to a pre and post Surge drink is overkill? Sorry, just thought you were saying it was a good idea before.
