CT you absolutely SMOKED me this time! I only had 4 hours to think of a new PT title, but it clearly wasn’t enough.
I bow to your superior Subject Title… until next week. LOL
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
Dave, with my “Prime time title” (CT PHONE HOME) I think that I finally beat you in the originality department!!! Obviously with a name like “Barr” you have ZERO merit!!![/quote]
I posted this question for Shugs and said I should inquire with you. Any advice you can lend is much appreciated. I will preface it by saying that I was never allergic to milk as a child.
Chris-
Have you encountered anyone that has trouble digesting dairy derived proteins i.e. whey, casein, etc? Is it possible to be allergic to these proteins? I do not actually have discomfort (bloating, gas, etc.) when ingesting these proteins, so I have ruled out lactose intolerance. My particular symptom is that for whatever reason my skin breaks out, especially with casein. Could this be the result of an underlying problem? Have you seen similar reactions in other individuals? If so, is there anything I can do? It is very frustrating to not be able to supplement my diet with protein powders. Thanks in advance.
What’s up, eh? Kudos on your recent article - great job.
I would appreciate your input on something that I hypothesize.
Since I often get whey protein for free, obviously I want to use it for my periworkout shakes. Assuming whey hydrosylateS cause peak aminoacidemia about 20 min post-ingestion and whey about 60 min, how about simply having a whey/glucose-based drink a bit earlier - say 45 min preworkout. Then consuming, what would be the “post” shake near the end of the workout.
So what do you think, Barr? Speaking of Barrs, weren’t the girls at Rick’s Carbaret on Bourbon street the greatest?! (don’t tell me you didn’t go there just because your girlfriend might be reading this.)
MizzouDawg, it just sounds like a typical allergy. You should see your allergist just to be sure.
I can only imagine how frustrating that would be, but I’m sure the Doc will give you options for treatment.
Good luck!
[quote]MizzouDawg wrote:
DBarr-
I posted this question for Shugs and said I should inquire with you. Any advice you can lend is much appreciated. I will preface it by saying that I was never allergic to milk as a child.
Chris-
Have you encountered anyone that has trouble digesting dairy derived proteins i.e. whey, casein, etc? Is it possible to be allergic to these proteins? I do not actually have discomfort (bloating, gas, etc.) when ingesting these proteins, so I have ruled out lactose intolerance. My particular symptom is that for whatever reason my skin breaks out, especially with casein. Could this be the result of an underlying problem? Have you seen similar reactions in other individuals? If so, is there anything I can do? It is very frustrating to not be able to supplement my diet with protein powders. Thanks in advance. [/quote]
Just wondering if you had a few favorite pre-workout meals. I usually lift in the afternoon and would like to optimize that meal. What is an ideal timeframe before lifing to eat? Thanks!
Edit: I mean “real” food, I know to wait for the next article for how to best take my Surge
Dr. Clay, that sounds like a good plan! If there’s glucose in the drink you’ll want to be careful about blood sugar though.
You could even go with a 20 minute pre workout ingestion, but I’d prefer whey and glucose separately in your case.
BTW-Since my GF will be reading this… what is Bourbon street?
[quote]Dr Clay wrote:
What’s up, eh? Kudos on your recent article - great job.
I would appreciate your input on something that I hypothesize.
Since I often get whey protein for free, obviously I want to use it for my periworkout shakes. Assuming whey hydrosylateS cause peak aminoacidemia about 20 min post-ingestion and whey about 60 min, how about simply having a whey/glucose-based drink a bit earlier - say 45 min preworkout. Then consuming, what would be the “post” shake near the end of the workout.
So what do you think, Barr? Speaking of Barrs, weren’t the girls at Rick’s Carbaret on Bourbon street the greatest?! (don’t tell me you didn’t go there just because your girlfriend might be reading this.)
D. Barr,
Due to your latest article I’m confused about your stance on peri-workout supplementation. I wanna get this straight. Let me know if I’m off base. BTW, I welcome anyone to respond to this.
According to your article and the research you’ve presented we should consider the optimal approach to be:
A full serving of Surge 10-15 minutes before lifting?
Wait approx. 60 min. after your last lift to drink the 2nd full serving of Surge?
A third full serving of Surge approx. 80 minutes after the 2nd?
Do not take anti-oxidants after workouts?
As for #1 - I know you said the pre-workout Surge is obviated when a prior meal is eaten, but if you could do both isn’t this better??? The higher insulin levels would exert a protective effect during the workout and get a jumpstart on amino transport to enhance protein synthesis.
As for #2 - Do you concurr with the research that says waiting 60 minutes is better. In the study did this subjects consume a pre-workout drink. I don’t see how this is good, especially if the whole GH is debunk and oveblown.
As for #3 - Is this really necessary? Could we perhaps only wait 30-40 minutes and drink a slower/cheaper protein such as WPC or even Grow! and get the same bump in Aminos at the 80-90 minute post workout mark. Keep in mind that if we do wait 60 minutes for the first post-workout whake this one is coming at about 3 hours post workout.
As for #4 - There has been sooooo much research saying the very opposite of this. There are so many free radicals floating around that can interfere with things. Why should we not take Vit C and E at around this time?
Hey Dave, are there any difference between the profile of sucrose vs. maltodextrin in a pre/post-workout drink if my goal is to be lean? And what a good source of either be? The best I can get my hand on is a mix of both. Thanks
Oh and don’t rent the movie “Primer”. Two garage engineers who make a time machine. Choppiest low budget confusing piece o’ excrement I’ve seen in many moons.
JB, some people have a hard time with solid food too soon before a workout, particularly on leg day. Eating solid food an hour and a half to two hours before the workout seems to work well with most. [NOTE: this is when the eating begins]
I like lower fat proteins like chicken breasts, and oatmeal for carbs (typical bodybuilder faire).
I used to make the mistake of loading up on carbs before a workout, which led to a HUGE serotonin surge. This left me feeling like I wanted to nap rather than workout.
Other people prefer a little more fat with fewer carbs, which is great as well.
Experiment with your timing and you’ll nail the best for you!
BTW-Excellent progress on your physique!
[quote]Jillybop wrote:
Just wondering if you had a few favorite pre-workout meals. I usually lift in the afternoon and would like to optimize that meal. What is an ideal timeframe before lifing to eat? Thanks!
Edit: I mean “real” food, I know to wait for the next article for how to best take my Surge
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Sorry, no new reviews. Batman Begins was a very good movie, though. I believe someone already posted that. It seems you’ve become T-Nation #1 most wanted. A lot of people are dying to read your next article. Did you think you’d get such a negative response (along the lines of “Oh, great. NOW what am I supposed to do?!?”).
I haven’t read such a negative response to an article since Charles Poliquin’s five elements article.
Dave, I’m considering having my hamstrings surgically re-attached so the insertions are about 1 inch lower than normal, but I’m worried about the ethical consequences. Do you think I should do this, and what should I expect to pay?
[quote]David Barr wrote:
Thanks for the questions guys!
I’ll be back tomorrow!
DC,
I have used WPI at 40mins prior and then hydrolyzed during and about 30 mins after for a great effect. Felt almost “light”. Figuring the isolate would begin to peak not too long after I begin training, then get a “piggy back” with the hydrolyzed somewhere around half way through my workout for an additive effect, and finally the last hydro just when it would seem the firt hydro should be bringing it all home. The triple spike of death or maybe just expensive urine… But man I felt well recovered each time.
DH
[quote]Dr Clay wrote:
What’s up, eh? Kudos on your recent article - great job.
I would appreciate your input on something that I hypothesize.
Since I often get whey protein for free, obviously I want to use it for my periworkout shakes. Assuming whey hydrosylateS cause peak aminoacidemia about 20 min post-ingestion and whey about 60 min, how about simply having a whey/glucose-based drink a bit earlier - say 45 min preworkout. Then consuming, what would be the “post” shake near the end of the workout.
So what do you think, Barr? Speaking of Barrs, weren’t the girls at Rick’s Carbaret on Bourbon street the greatest?! (don’t tell me you didn’t go there just because your girlfriend might be reading this.)
