President Obama

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton promised Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi the U.S. would â??expand economic assistanceâ?? to Egypt on Monday.

Clinton and Morsi sat down together while both were in New York for meetings at the UN. An official privy to the details of the meeting said Clinton assured Morsi â??she is committed on following throughâ?? on the $1 billion in aid she had almost certainly secured for Morsi before Islamists attacked Americaâ??s Cairo embassy on September 11.

http://www.libertynews.com/2012/09/27/clinton-expanding-economic-aid-to-egypt-yeah-you-read-that-right/

Obama and Clinton are pure evil.

I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Matt Patterson

Government & Society

Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, the result of a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages.

How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job? Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: ushered into and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scores along the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer”; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in fact nearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”) ; and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions.

He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator. And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?

Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal: To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspoken hater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, and therefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass. Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass - held to a lower standard ? because of the color of his skin.

Podhoretz continues: And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest? Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon - affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.

Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are not qualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist.Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin - that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn’t racism, then nothing is.

And that is what America did to Obama. True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but why would he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he was good enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All his life, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the next step, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary.

What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks? In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people - conservatives included - ought now to be deeply embarrassed.

The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all.

Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth ? it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.

And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inherited this mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence.

But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?

In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job.

When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.[/quote]

Excellen post.

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Dude, if a 16 year old girl can get a photo ID in less than 5 mins between giggles and texting inane bullshit to her friends… So can every adult minority on the planet.

Getting an ID might literally take an hour of their life, and then they will be able to do such things as open a bank account, get a job, fly on a plane, buy beer, go to a club, get into the democratic national convention, etc etc etc

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?

How can a 1st world country NOT insist on photo IDs for voting purposes? Are you kidding me or what…

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. ‘Racist’ is such a big word for you to throwing around at this juncture. I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. [/quote]

I will check them at the door as soon as your side checks them at the door!

You are the one implying that certain minorities might be too stupid to obtain an ID card. That to me sounds racist.

[quote]I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.
[/quote]

Clearly all you have to do is agree that the most powerful nation in the world needs to have voter ID laws. Because when that happens EVERYONE is better off as it helps eliminate voter fraud.

The lame argument that you gave for NOT having voter ID’s leads me to believe that you are racist.

What else can anyone walk away thinking after you imply that certain minorities are too stupid to obtain a voter ID.

You should rethink your position.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. [/quote]

I will check them at the door as soon as your side checks them at the door!

You are the one implying that certain minorities might be too stupid to obtain an ID card. That to me sounds racist.

[quote]I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.
[/quote]

Clearly all you have to do is agree that the most powerful nation in the world needs to have voter ID laws. Because when that happens EVERYONE is better off as it helps eliminate voter fraud.

The lame argument that you gave for NOT having voter ID’s leads me to believe that you are racist.

What else can anyone walk away thinking after you imply that certain minorities are too stupid to obtain a voter ID.

You should rethink your position.[/quote]

So you admit your Ad Hominem logical fallacy. If not, please then provide the direct quote where I implied stupidity on the part of minorities.

[quote]Mufasa wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Indeed, heaven forbid we stop dead people from voting. [/quote]

Let me guess…

Dead People tend to vote Democratic?

Mufasa[/quote]

Not really, but it seems to me that Republicans seem to think that no voter ID laws are a problem, and Democrats think they are a solution.

If you need to cheat to win, you were not worth beating to begin with, and didn’t win much of anything anyway.

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. [/quote]

I will check them at the door as soon as your side checks them at the door!

You are the one implying that certain minorities might be too stupid to obtain an ID card. That to me sounds racist.

[quote]I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.
[/quote]

Clearly all you have to do is agree that the most powerful nation in the world needs to have voter ID laws. Because when that happens EVERYONE is better off as it helps eliminate voter fraud.

The lame argument that you gave for NOT having voter ID’s leads me to believe that you are racist.

What else can anyone walk away thinking after you imply that certain minorities are too stupid to obtain a voter ID.

You should rethink your position.[/quote]

So you admit your Ad Hominem logical fallacy. If not, please then provide the direct quote where I implied stupidity on the part of minorities.

[/quote]

Okay…

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama…[/quote]

You are claiming that it makes it harder for democrats and minorities in general to vote. Now tell me why it would be harder for them to vote than it would a white person? Only one reason…YOU think that they are not quite smart enough or ambitious enough to obtain an ID.

And…if you think that I am wrong please tell me what you meant by those statements as they can only be interpreted one way.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I will not defend Obama from anything , I personally think he is less a Douche than Romney and by a long shot. I think Romney not only has the same issues Obama has but he is also a fucking liar and will say anything to get elected. I know Obama has lied as well but Obama is a better liar because he at least sticks to one lie he doesn’t change his lies to suit the occasion
[/quote]

See what I’m saying?

People hate Mitten’s personality. He’s not seen as likable.[/quote]

Dude, Obama is a rockstar. Of course age plays into it. Young people don’t look at silly things like governance records, they look at a dude playing basketball and drinking beers and fall in love. Look at the .gif you posted coupled with your comment. You are making my point for me. Your post, coupled with the .gif is the perfect example of the “young obama drone”.

It is fucking retarded to be honest. Look at Pitt’s post. No one ounce of substance. Because “my guys lies are better than your guy’s lies” is the worst. It could literally be the dumbest fucking reason I’ve ever heard of for voting for someone. No one is saying they aren’t both liars, but to say one lie is less of an affront to your beliefs than another is plain ridiculous.

So you know what you do? You forget about campaign bullshit, and look at governance records. romeny supporters go: “okay, not too bad, and at least ryan has a plan.” Obama supports go “it was all the republican’s fault.”

See the difference?

Look you are a bright person. Don’t waste your time thinking your age doesn’t play into your thought process. it does, and in a decade, you’ll know what I mean. Couple of kids and a couple of years working 2,400 hours a year will teach you some things. If you’re still voting for Obama then, well that means you didn’t pay attention in history class.

I will say the most common thread I see among Obama supporters that are actually informed (use that term loosely based on the following) is a lack of knowledge of history. This election will be seen as a defining moment in American history one way or another.

I’ll be honest, had you asked me 2 years ago if I thought so many people would eat up this, this, Cloward-Piven like they have, I would have told you hell no. Well, color me surprised. [/quote]

By three methods we may learn wisdom:
First, by reflection which is noblest;
second, by imitation, which is the easiest;
and third, by experience, which is the bitterest.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Kid, you need to read more, and drink less kool-ade. You have allowed yourself to be programmed.

[/quote]

This is the same way Zeb handles people , Are you and Zeb one and the same ?

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. [/quote]

I will check them at the door as soon as your side checks them at the door!

You are the one implying that certain minorities might be too stupid to obtain an ID card. That to me sounds racist.

[quote]I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.
[/quote]

Clearly all you have to do is agree that the most powerful nation in the world needs to have voter ID laws. Because when that happens EVERYONE is better off as it helps eliminate voter fraud.

The lame argument that you gave for NOT having voter ID’s leads me to believe that you are racist.

What else can anyone walk away thinking after you imply that certain minorities are too stupid to obtain a voter ID.

You should rethink your position.[/quote]

So you admit your Ad Hominem logical fallacy. If not, please then provide the direct quote where I implied stupidity on the part of minorities.

[/quote]

Okay…

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama…[/quote]

You are claiming that it makes it harder for democrats and minorities in general to vote. Now tell me why it would be harder for them to vote than it would a white person? Only one reason…YOU think that they are not quite smart enough or ambitious enough to obtain an ID.

And…if you think that I am wrong please tell me what you meant by those statements as they can only be interpreted one way.

[/quote]

Whatever. I’m not going to entertain your accusation anymore. Stop using semiotics to infer different meaning on other people’s statements. Then maybe we can get back to a place of debate and away from your basic lack of language proficiency.

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
I mean, yeah, people need to get their damn photo ID’s sorted out! For sure. But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama, but maybe not as widely as this ‘70%’ figure being quoted. Polls and surveys do sometimes overstate Democrat gains.[/quote]

Then you are insulting not only democrats but minorities as well. YOU are saying that they are not smart enough to get a photo ID.

Are you a racist?
[/quote]

I think you should check your Ad Hominem attacks at the door ZEB. [/quote]

I will check them at the door as soon as your side checks them at the door!

You are the one implying that certain minorities might be too stupid to obtain an ID card. That to me sounds racist.

[quote]I really thought I was being fairly objective in my previous statements, agreeing that the overall concept of Photo ID’s is fine and practical, but questioning the agenda of the Republicans who passed the legislation as well as provide links backing up my comments in some small way . Clearly what I should have done was be as partisan as you, and the politicians we’re arguing about and pull the race card. Silly me.
[/quote]

Clearly all you have to do is agree that the most powerful nation in the world needs to have voter ID laws. Because when that happens EVERYONE is better off as it helps eliminate voter fraud.

The lame argument that you gave for NOT having voter ID’s leads me to believe that you are racist.

What else can anyone walk away thinking after you imply that certain minorities are too stupid to obtain a voter ID.

You should rethink your position.[/quote]

So you admit your Ad Hominem logical fallacy. If not, please then provide the direct quote where I implied stupidity on the part of minorities.

[/quote]

Okay…

[quote]Pigeonkak wrote:
But my immediate and main objection to the ID rule is not that it makes it absolutely impossible for these people to vote, but rather that it seems a loaded piece of legislature aimed at making it that much harder for Democrats to vote. Assuming you trust the figures presenting all these Hispanics, minorities and other groups as largely Democrat. I do believe they tend to Obama…[/quote]

You are claiming that it makes it harder for democrats and minorities in general to vote. Now tell me why it would be harder for them to vote than it would a white person? Only one reason…YOU think that they are not quite smart enough or ambitious enough to obtain an ID.

And…if you think that I am wrong please tell me what you meant by those statements as they can only be interpreted one way.

[/quote]

Whatever. I’m not going to entertain your accusation anymore. Stop using semiotics to infer different meaning on other people’s statements. Then maybe we can get back to a place of debate and away from your basic lack of language proficiency.
[/quote]

Ha ha you’re a funny little man. You asked for the specific instance where you insulted minorities, I gave it to you and now you just don’t want to address it.

You’re no different than the many other liberals who show up here mouthing off with nothing to back it up.

You implied that minorities were just too flat out dumb or not ambitious enough to obtain an ID card and now you just don’t know what to say.

LOL

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Ha ha you’re a funny little man.
[/quote]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Ha ha you’re a funny little man.
[/quote]
[/quote]

he must disagree with you