But do you have any? Like, why do you think you did any bad to your health?
Im not at that deadlift but i guess my total weight also plays a role and yes - i was on 290mg cruise and i upped to 800mgs and i see NO difference. None at all. If i wouldnt be pinning myself i would never imagine i trippled the dose.
I also start to believe that i will need to blast like a mofo to gain smth noticable.
Disagree with Option 1. Options 2, 3, and 4 are legit IMO.
To expand on this, I would go with my personal take (which is why I haven’t cycled or started TRT yet). The following requirements ought to be met prior to starting any AAS:
Just my opinion
TBH, I don’t really know. With what I have done, my guess is not much that isn’t reversible. I do think I lost a bit of hair density near the crown. That isn’t really a health impact (just cosmetic), but I care about my hair. Not everybody does or needs to, but I do. I don’t have a bald spot, just a bit less dense. Not noticeable to really anyone but me, but I want to keep it that way.
I guess for me, being fairly muscular, and lean is good enough. I can do that on TRT. I am not going to be 225 with abs, but 200 lbs with abs is pretty good too (for a 5’10" guy). As far as physique goes, tons of blasting could get me from top 1% for my age (34), to top 0.1%. Not worth it IMO, but we all have different goal. Only dudes seem to care at that point haha.
Random jumping here in here. How would someone know if they would be able to “hold” their gains or if the individual is even healthy enough to start a cycle. As in, it isn’t advisable for me to perform a cycle as I have a very high BF%. So what are some good indicators that someone would benefit from what may be considered a blast that is early in their development. I’m not considering a blast anymore as my cardio went to shit just on TRT and my BP is elevated just fyi. Just curious
When you cant find what you can improve natty anymore. If you have high bodyfat, you definetly can lose some with no drugs, etc.
What was your protocol if you don’t mind my asking?
200mg test cyp for 3 weeks reduced to 140mg for 3 weeks. I’m now starting my 6th week (140mg) and getting labs Friday. 2 injections weekly
Just to add some context, how old are you and why did you start TRT?
This suggests your doctor prescribed TRT. Why did he start you at 200mg/wk?
What was your blood pressure before TRT? Did both the systolic and diastolic increase?
I hear what you’re saying but I feel like a large number of people just start hitting maybe half way through their genetic max. Like I said I have no plans to start a cycle although it’s arguable 200mg test is a high enough to be outside TRT, but it’s kinda like telling your younger brother not to drink when you are heading out to the bar haha
So I don’t have a doctor as I literally cannot find an MD that will take me as patient because I’m on TRT. But ive had low numbers 230-240ngdl for 3 years. 26 year old
Edit:
The clinic nurse practitioner lets me basically pick and choose my protocol. She wanted to start 200mg for the whole time and start AI but I spent about a year researching HPTA function and I told her basically give me what I ask within reason and she did. The medical field is a mess atm lol. I denied the AI and said I would give myself injections 2x weekly as opposed to one 200mg shot a week.
Edit:
I’m the one that suggested to reduce from 200-140 due to blood pressure increase from 126/72 to 138/86
Do you own a blood pressure monitor? If not, I would get one.
I take it you’re not in the US? Defy would take you if you prove on a lab your FSH/LH is zero due to being on Test already.
Yah I ordered one Friday. I also started supplementing ubiquonol and beet root. Would high blood pressure explain decreasing cardio performance? I assumed it was a rapid increase in mass and the heart trying to catch up or an underlying heart condition lol
I am in the US. I only use the clinic so insurance will save me some $$$ on the test. Which it does I only pay 15$ a month for labs and test
How much weight did you gain?
From what to what?
In what period of time? You post suggests just a very few weeks.
i gained about 6 lbs in the last 2 weeks. 304 to 311 and with a visible reduction in waist fat.
Good everyday “TRT” dosing with 180 mg/week TC (1 injection every week, median PK parameters assumed) and trough sqeaking by at 1130 ng/dl if I spot reference range up to 1200 ng/dl. LMAO!
But these dudes only see the trough data point. Remember the AUC for all the time prior to the trough data point.
why is 7 day injections even thing?
what does this mean lol?
This is why I have a hard time being on board with anyone that says TRT doesn’t give the user a competitive edge. I believe anyone on TRT getting a trough value of even 500 ng/dl is still doing well above most tbh.
80 mg/week of TC to your point:
How many dudes you think are peaking at over 1145 ng/dl every day. 500 ng/dl trough with once weekly injection gives same AUC as every day injections that give roughly 820 ng/dl day in and day out (again, I’ve assumed mean PK parameters based on literature surveys of men on TC).
But no, 80 mg/week is way low. 200 mg/week to resolve symptoms 
. We waged this war previously so let me avoid being vague. If you need 200 mg/week TC (again assuming once weekly injection) to hit 500 ng/dl trough then I understand. But please realize your PK response profile is in the minority.