Pre-Cycle Blood Test In - It's A Go?

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Ok, I’m doing it right, blood tests FIRST, then a moderate dosage.

About me: 38, Male, 5’9", a heavy 110 kgs. (242 lbs.), about 6 months of serious training behind him recently, and a good athletic background (football, martial arts, etc.) Feeling some lag, some I’m gonna pump it up some. Right now, I’m living in Asia, so it’s fairly available, except where I’m at. I can only get Sustanon 250 and Nolvadex 20 mg here. Found some REALLY expensive ArImidex, though.

Blood work: all normal EXCEPT:

WBC 10,200 (4,000 - 9,000) Norm
Triglycerides 2,03 g/l (0,60 - 1,60) Norm
ASAT/SGOT 42 UI/L (<37) Norm
ALAT/SGPT 83 UI/L (<40) Norm

Everything else normal, T3, T4, E2, PSA, HDL, LDL.

The WBC - maybe the sniffles I got from weather change.
ALAT? I was maybe dehydrated when I fasted (water too) for the blood test. I also eat a lot.
Tri’s? Don’t know much about them.

So, on to my next step? First-time injections?

By the way, what position are you in when you do a glute injection? I figured it should be relaxed, but I don’t want the needle to move while it’s in. I was thinking lying on my left side, right glute exposed? Then I twist around and try to make it work?

Next, I’ll have to open the ampoule properly! Ha, I got the cheap Sustanon from Organon with the Arabic writing on it. It has the white line on the neck of the ampoule. Also, I need a file and a bic pen cap.

MY CYCLE
Sustanon 250 (500mg twice per week)
Nolvadex 20 mg (on hand, but not in use)

That’s it! Simple and hopefully side-effect free.

Any suggestions? (Btw, hard to get gear here, but it’s nearby).

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Your TRI are very high–inidicative of a lot of fat in your blood (I think). Is your diet shit?

Did you get your Testosterone tested? What was it?

Sustanon has short esters in it so it should be injected more frequently than twice a week. Also you are doing 1 g/week for your first cycle? Thta is a little high. 500 mg is plenty to grow on for a first cycle.

You need adex and hcg to do this properly.

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VTBalla34,

Thanks for your reply. I’m looking at my Triglycerides now, yes, it’s a bit high, and yes, I enjoy too many helpings of BBQ pork right after my workouts, and at night too, no less. Can’t be good for my fat levels. Used to be good for my after workout protein, but now my shake does that. Gonna have to cut them out for sure now.

My testosterone is at 4.38 ng/dl. Also my Estradiol (E2) is at 98.00. Is that high for a male, 38 years old?

My goals are changing. Before, it was strength and bulk. But it behooves me lose some weight, so I will have to lose some fat now. I got plenty to lose.

I tried HIIT with my one body part per day (6x / week) and it didn’t work. I was exhausted. I haven’t done cardio regularly, but my belly has gone down with my workouts (or my shoulders and traps are getting bigger, it seems.)

My goal now is a lean, muscular me. Bulking with too much fat, not good. Also, I want MORE energy, not less. Those 20 odd sets per workout 6x / week is exhausting after a while.

I want to switch to a 3-4x / week workout, but I have a hard time down-shifting to only 3 sets per exercise. I usually do 4 sets of e exercises, more or less for bigger and smaller muscles.

Maybe I’ll do less intense 5x / week, we’ll see. It depends on how I feel after the Sustanon.

By the way, with 1 ampoule of 1ml of Sustanon 250, how do you do 500 mg per week doIng shots EVERY OTHER DAY? They come in 1 ampoule shots, can’t make 'em smaller or anything. I gotta shoot 250mg per shot, and if I’m only doing 500 mg, that’s only twice a week. Can’t figure out how I can do 500mg EOD.

And I’m only doing 500mg per week, btw. You may have misread something about 1g. No, only 500mg of Sustanon 250 to start with.

Do I absolutely NEED Arimidex? 'Cause that stuff is EXPENSIVE out here! And I can only find 2mg tablets.

I am hoping low doses (500mg of Sustanon 250) and Nolvadex on hand would be enough.

I’m kinda tempted to start Nolvadex now, since I have a high E2 count (98.00 pg/ml) I think. And I do already have too much fat on my chest already, under the muscle. Yes, they kinda peek out already, I gotta get rid of that. Will Nolvadex help with pec fat? A small handful is deposited under my arms already, but my bigger shoulders and arms kind of “overshadow” them.

Again: my goal is now to be fit and trim. I need to start cutting.

Forgot to mention: I’ve been taking Creatine 3 weeks now (5-6g per day) and Whey protein shakes with BCAAs (2-3x per day), ~30g protein each shake.

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I chose to respond to this post out of the 4. I hope they’re all the same.

[quote]Alohatiger wrote:
VTBalla34,

Thanks for your reply. I’m looking at my Triglycerides now, yes, it’s a bit high, and yes, I enjoy too many helpings of BBQ pork right after my workouts, and at night too, no less. Can’t be good for my fat levels. Used to be good for my after workout protein, but now my shake does that. Gonna have to cut them out for sure now.[/quote]

High TRIG are usually associated with a lot of shit carbs and sugars–so if you work on that no need to eliminate the good protein (lean pork is very good source of protein IMO). you can look into a sugar free BBQ sauce if you need the taste. Hot sauce is also good.

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My testosterone is at 4.38 ng/dl. Also my Estradiol (E2) is at 98.00. Is that high for a male, 38 years old?[/quote]

I can’t interpret this without ranges (for the T) and units & ranges (for the E2).

[quote]
By the way, with 1 ampoule of 1ml of Sustanon 250, how do you do 500 mg per week doIng shots EVERY OTHER DAY? They come in 1 ampoule shots, can’t make 'em smaller or anything. I gotta shoot 250mg per shot, and if I’m only doing 500 mg, that’s only twice a week. Can’t figure out how I can do 500mg EOD.[/quote]

Umm you don’t have to clear the needle each injection. I didn’t say to do 500 mg EOD, I said to split your 500 mg dose up so that you are injecting EOD. You seem to be confused or maybe there is a language barrier. 500 mg/week divided into EOD shots. Is that helpful?

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And I’m only doing 500mg per week, btw. You may have misread something about 1g. No, only 500mg of Sustanon 250 to start with.[/quote]

You said, and I quote, “Sustanon 250 (500mg twice per week)”. I am not misreading, you are misspeaking. Maybe you meant to use your words to say “Sustanon 250 (500 mg/week in twice weekly injections)” or something similar. What you said is not the same as what (I now assume) you meant.

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Do I absolutely NEED Arimidex? 'Cause that stuff is EXPENSIVE out here! And I can only find 2mg tablets.[/quote]

Anastrozole is available as a generic or a research chemical. So is exemsane and letrozole. Yes you needt this.

[quote]
I am hoping low doses (500mg of Sustanon 250) and Nolvadex on hand would be enough.[/quote]

It will be enough to prevent gyno, but likely not enough to keep you from having high estrogen symptoms since the Sust and Nolva will actually increase your circulating estrogen, only blocking it at the breast tissue.

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I’m kinda tempted to start Nolvadex now, since I have a high E2 count (98.00 pg/ml) I think. And I do already have too much fat on my chest already, under the muscle. Yes, they kinda peek out already, I gotta get rid of that. Will Nolvadex help with pec fat? A small handful is deposited under my arms already, but my bigger shoulders and arms kind of “overshadow” them.[/quote]

As already state the Nolva will only increase your E2 and give you symptoms at other tissues. If you want to get rid of your fat, stop eating like shit and diet.

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[quote]Alohatiger wrote:
Thanks for your reply. I’m looking at my Triglycerides now, yes, it’s a bit high, and yes, I enjoy too many helpings of BBQ pork right after my workouts, and at night too, no less. Can’t be good for my fat levels. Used to be good for my after workout protein, but now my shake does that. Gonna have to cut them out for sure now.[/quote]

Nope. Excessive carbs intake —> high serum triglycerides

Which makes its borderline sinful of you to blame bbq pork in this way…

edit - ok, looks like VT already covered that well

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Sorry about the multiple posts, I’m new to this forum.

About the Triglycerides: I eat fairly well! Very few sugars, no sugars, I stopped ice cream too, only yoghurt. :frowning: What could it be? Crappy carbs? Sometimes I’ll have KFC Chicken Burgers…but sugary stuff? Nope.

I eat 10 boiled eggs a day, protein shakes, and some Indian or occasionally Mexican (on my cheat day, haha!). But usually I eat clean.

About the EOD doses: where do I store the needle and the leftover juice? Seems unsanitary and I can’t have needle lying around. Hmm…may just have to do twice a week, not optimal, but I think good enough. Either that or bump up to 750 mg, haha, 250 mg 3x per week?

Ranges
Testosterone: 4.38 ng/dl (male: 2.25 - 9.72 ng/dl)
E2: 98.00 pg/ml (says ‘male <20 - 77 pg/ml’)

My test is normal/low, right? And my E2 is high?

Thanks again, I’m learning bunches right now.

And I got my file and pen cap for my glass ampoules! Snap those necks!! Man, what a pain to snap those ampoules! They are the ones from Organon (Arabic writing on the indication sheet) and the white line on the neck of the glass ampoule. Advice, please!

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Ok, I DID find some anastrozole, generic Arimidex. Still expensive!

They only come on 1 mg tablets. I see 0.5 mg and even 0.25 mg is often the prophylactic dosage (every day).

Can I take 1 mg of Anastrozole EOD?

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Get a pill cutter and split it into half. YOu can also cut it into quarters.

A razor blade works too.

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Ok, to recap, I will take:

500 mg Sustanon (1 ml twice a week)
1 mg Anastrozole EOD (or 0.5 mg per day)

For 10-12 weeks, then I’ll start PCT with Nolvadex.

Easy, right?

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0.5 mg of Adex per day may be too much. I would do 0.5 EOD.