[quote]Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
vroom wrote:
Nothing you’ve said here is anything but pissing in the wind. I have your own words to prove my points. You are a censor and a would-be fascist. Look at your own words. Your piss is blowing back on you. Hint: don’t face the wind when pissing.
You are a sadly deluded fool. I am actually sorry I participated in a verbal slugfest with an unarmed man…
A 5th grade comeback! Wow, good one!
You never admit when you’re wrong (which I have in the past) and try to shut Christians down. You come on to Christian threads and try to bully the particpants who are Christian. What a wonderful, considerate, and thoughtful person!!
Dude, who are you grouping in with “Christians”? I have no desire to think the way you seem to. Whatever church you have been going to, I would avoid at all costs if this is what the members show in their character.[/quote]
What would make you think we’d want you? Since you are fascinated with assigning ‘sins of ommission’ to innocent people, I can’t imagine anyone would want you around.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
What would make you think we’d want you? Since you are fascinated with assigning ‘sins of ommission’ to innocent people, I can’t imagine anyone would want you around.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
vroom wrote:
Nothing you’ve said here is anything but pissing in the wind. I have your own words to prove my points. You are a censor and a would-be fascist. Look at your own words. Your piss is blowing back on you. Hint: don’t face the wind when pissing.
You are a sadly deluded fool. I am actually sorry I participated in a verbal slugfest with an unarmed man…
A 5th grade comeback! Wow, good one!
You never admit when you’re wrong (which I have in the past) and try to shut Christians down. You come on to Christian threads and try to bully the particpants who are Christian. What a wonderful, considerate, and thoughtful person!!
Dude, who are you grouping in with “Christians”? I have no desire to think the way you seem to. Whatever church you have been going to, I would avoid at all costs if this is what the members show in their character.
What would make you think we’d want you? Since you are fascinated with assigning ‘sins of ommission’ to innocent people, I can’t imagine anyone would want you around.
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Wow! do you really think that is the reaction we should have?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
A 5th grade comeback! Wow, good one!
You never admit when you’re wrong (which I have in the past) and try to shut Christians down. You come on to Christian threads and try to bully the particpants who are Christian. What a wonderful, considerate, and thoughtful person!!
Take the time to show me wrong, rather than just claim it, and then I’ll be happy to. This might involve having to discuss something though. Like, perhaps, a series of questions that I have posed to you repeatedly which remain unasnwered.
You might also want to learn to recognize humor and sarcasm when it slaps you in the face… which means that not all words can be taken at face value.
Oh, and “LAST WORD”.[/quote]
I’ve shown you ‘wrong’ many times, but you simply refuse to recognize it. Simply put, you are an atheistic liberal, which means you have no standards (no ‘4 principles’) to help you understand right from wrong. To you, any argument is simply a matter of opinion. For you, there is no right or wrong (just opinion). Thus, you ask for something which you don’t understand when presented to you. And when presented with this fact, your rational mind shuts down and laughs it off as ‘humorous’ or ‘sarcasm’.
When humans have no objective standards of value, they then use their emotions to tell them if something ‘feels’ right. Because Christians have objective standards, this upsets you. You feel compelled to attack them, under the idea that “No one can know anything!”, blanking out the fact that they just stated knowing something. This is why you jump on these Christian threads. People with values make you recognize your own lack thereof. We make you feel worthless. That’s why you can’t stay away from these threads, even though I’ve said to simply ignore them. Christians, who have objective standards, are to you anethema. You must attack us and advocate censorship.
As for the questions you keep going on about: this thread was started to encourage prayer for an intelligient guy named Pookie. I kept telling you to get off the thread unless you’re going to pray. Since your incapable of doing that, why should I answer your hijack? (If you respond, don’t just pick out this last paragraph and have at it. Answer the prior paragraphs.)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
vroom wrote:
Nothing you’ve said here is anything but pissing in the wind. I have your own words to prove my points. You are a censor and a would-be fascist. Look at your own words. Your piss is blowing back on you. Hint: don’t face the wind when pissing.
You are a sadly deluded fool. I am actually sorry I participated in a verbal slugfest with an unarmed man…
A 5th grade comeback! Wow, good one!
You never admit when you’re wrong (which I have in the past) and try to shut Christians down. You come on to Christian threads and try to bully the particpants who are Christian. What a wonderful, considerate, and thoughtful person!!
Dude, who are you grouping in with “Christians”? I have no desire to think the way you seem to. Whatever church you have been going to, I would avoid at all costs if this is what the members show in their character.[/quote]
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I’ve shown you ‘wrong’ many times, but you simply refuse to recognize it. Simply put, you are an atheistic liberal, which means you have no standards (no ‘4 principles’) to help you understand right from wrong. To you, any argument is simply a matter of opinion. For you, there is no right or wrong (just opinion). Thus, you ask for something which you don’t understand when presented to you. And when presented with this fact, your rational mind shuts down and laughs it off as ‘humorous’ or ‘sarcasm’.[/quote]
Dude, where you get the idea that I am an athiest completely eludes me. Never have I stated that God does not exist and I routinely point out that I think God and science can coexist quite well.
As for right and wrong, I do believe that even atheists know the difference between right and wrong. It doesn’t take a 2000 year old tome of rules to figure out such things. Since Pookie is the athiest, perhaps you should argue with him about whether or not he can in fact have values.
By the way, I was not shrugging off your statements as humorous, I was referring to the humor and sarcasm in my statements, that went right over your head.
Anyway, your coloring book portrait of the mindsets of those you don’t understand is troubling. No wonder you find yourself completely lost in these parts, you have no ability to empathize with the viewpoints of those around you.
First, man up, I advocated self-censorship, because I believe you are in fact trespassing. You disagree but have never bothered to explain to me why this interpretation is wrong.
Now, I do find it interesting as to the motives you ascribe to me. You honestly think I have no values, and that your values make me feel worthless, and thus I am compelled to lash out? Damn, you’d make Freud proud!
You may not be able to tell what they are, but I certainly have values, I live by them, and presumably a few of them are different than yours. Thank God for that!
[quote]As for the questions you keep going on about: this thread was started to encourage prayer for an intelligient guy named Pookie. I kept telling you to get off the thread unless you’re going to pray. Since your incapable of doing that, why should I answer your hijack? (If you respond, don’t just pick out this last paragraph and have at it. Answer the prior paragraphs.)
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Strange, telling me to “get off the thread” sounds a lot like censorship to me. OMG! Should I now run amok on the forums proclaiming you to be a censorship promoting fundamentalist-fascist as you have been doing to me?
You are the one wrapping yourself in Christ’s robes and telling us how pious you are, but then you behave like a cretin thinking your wrappings make it okay.
If you want to discuss these things, and we’ve made a start, that is fine by me. However, you’ll have to drop some of your assumptions about me and let me speak for myself, if you can. You’ll also have to answer some questions and illustrate your point beyond making claims.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
A 5th grade comeback! Wow, good one!
You never admit when you’re wrong (which I have in the past) and try to shut Christians down. You come on to Christian threads and try to bully the particpants who are Christian. What a wonderful, considerate, and thoughtful person!!
Take the time to show me wrong, rather than just claim it, and then I’ll be happy to. This might involve having to discuss something though. Like, perhaps, a series of questions that I have posed to you repeatedly which remain unasnwered.
You might also want to learn to recognize humor and sarcasm when it slaps you in the face… which means that not all words can be taken at face value.
Oh, and “LAST WORD”.
I’ve shown you ‘wrong’ many times, but you simply refuse to recognize it. Simply put, you are an atheistic liberal, which means you have no standards (no ‘4 principles’) to help you understand right from wrong. To you, any argument is simply a matter of opinion. For you, there is no right or wrong (just opinion). Thus, you ask for something which you don’t understand when presented to you. And when presented with this fact, your rational mind shuts down and laughs it off as ‘humorous’ or ‘sarcasm’.
When humans have no objective standards of value, they then use their emotions to tell them if something ‘feels’ right. Because Christians have objective standards, this upsets you. You feel compelled to attack them, under the idea that “No one can know anything!”, blanking out the fact that they just stated knowing something. This is why you jump on these Christian threads. People with values make you recognize your own lack thereof. We make you feel worthless. That’s why you can’t stay away from these threads, even though I’ve said to simply ignore them. Christians, who have objective standards, are to you anethema. You must attack us and advocate censorship.
As for the questions you keep going on about: this thread was started to encourage prayer for an intelligient guy named Pookie. I kept telling you to get off the thread unless you’re going to pray. Since your incapable of doing that, why should I answer your hijack? (If you respond, don’t just pick out this last paragraph and have at it. Answer the prior paragraphs.)
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Stupid, stupid, stupid.
To conflate ‘atheism’ with ‘lack of principles or morals’ is the height of self-righteous bullshit.
One does not need to believe in god to believe that killing, raping, stealing is wrong.
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.
You truly see yourself as superior?[/quote]
I never said that. You are the one who keeps throwing the word “superior” around. I’m just morally minded. Quit trying to play the role of the victim.
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.
You truly see yourself as superior?
I never said that. You are the one who keeps throwing the word “superior” around. I’m just morally minded. Quit trying to play the role of the victim.[/quote]
You consider yourself more moral? You believe your morals and standards are higher?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.
You truly see yourself as superior?
I never said that. You are the one who keeps throwing the word “superior” around. I’m just morally minded. Quit trying to play the role of the victim.
You consider yourself more moral? You believe your morals and standards are higher?[/quote]
I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. What do you think?
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Birds of a feather professor. You can tell a lot about people by the company they keep. And we all see where your alliances are kept.
You truly see yourself as superior?
I never said that. You are the one who keeps throwing the word “superior” around. I’m just morally minded. Quit trying to play the role of the victim.
You consider yourself more moral? You believe your morals and standards are higher?
I’m a believer that actions speak louder than words. What do you think?
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They surely do. What have your actions been that denote such outstanding moral integrity?
They surely do. What have your actions been that denote such outstanding moral integrity?[/quote]
Building the confidence of children mostly. I’ve got a soft spot for kids and designate much time to spend with them. Love my wife and family with faithful and fervent love. Help those I can on a daily basis. Too many to list really. What about you? Have you done anything that shows you have outstanding moral integrity?
They surely do. What have your actions been that denote such outstanding moral integrity?
Building the confidence of children mostly. I’ve got a soft spot for kids and designate much time to spend with them. Love my wife and family with faithful and fervent love. Help those I can on a daily basis. Too many to list really. What about you? Have you done anything that shows you have outstanding moral integrity?[/quote]
I think I show that pretty much everywhere I go, including this site.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
We can’t let Prof X have ALL the fun! If you are a T-Nation Christian and wish to join me in prayers for the immortal soul of Pookie, then answer this thread.
And please, no jokes about ‘praying for poontang’ instead!
HH[/quote]
I have already been praying for Pookie. Pookie hold very stong beliefs in evolution and in man himself. He is highly intelligent, and well spoken, but unfortunately, these things will not get us into Heaven.
Pookie will tell you that there is “no such thing as heaven,” and so it doesn’t bother him that he can’t go “to a place that doesn’t exist.”
We who do know the truth of God’s Word, need to pray for Pookie, Vroom, Fighting Irish, Harris, Miniross, and all the others who obviously are headed for a Christless eternity in the flames and fires of Hell.
[quote]I have already been praying for Pookie. Pookie hold very stong beliefs in evolution and in man himself. He is highly intelligent, and well spoken, but unfortunately, these things will not get us into Heaven.
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We who do know the truth of God’s Word, need to pray for Pookie, Vroom, Fighting Irish, Harris, Miniross, and all the others who obviously are headed for a Christless eternity in the flames and fires of Hell.
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Heh, on the first part, yeah, see, you CAN do your praying for another without crowing about it publicly (I don’t consider your statement to be crowing about it).
On the second part, I don’t believe one needs to be a fundamentalist/literalist to find or accept God. In any case, I doubt it is for you (or I) to judge who will or won’t be spending eternity in hell.
Perhaps, since this is a religious thread already, you could tell me specifically why you think I’m bound for hell and why you think you are qualified to make that judgment?
