[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
I remember reading that out of every single mammal on the planet human females have by far the largest breasts relative to total weight. Much larger than needed for food. So they probably evolved recently purely to be sexual “ornaments” to attract men.
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I also recall that someone here said that most 2nd boob jobs are almost always augmentations.
OK. So if it`s not the men asking for it, what do you call it? Narcissim? Auto-erotism? Competitive edge? Whatever…
[quote]Jillybop wrote:
this thread irritates me…
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It irritates you because it’s not about you. If you were as proud as that woman is about the way you look you’d be flashing skin every chance you got. Bottom line: sexy women get big reactions. If you don’t like what anyone is saying, then don’t look.
[quote]DrewZ wrote:
Jillybop wrote:
this thread irritates me…
It irritates you because it’s not about you. If you were as proud as that woman is about the way you look you’d be flashing skin every chance you got. Bottom line: sexy women get big reactions. If you don’t like what anyone is saying, then don’t look.[/quote]
That’s sooo wrong drewz. I’ve seen enough of Jilly to know what she was talking about. It had nothing to do with that.
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
Actually that brings up an interesting point. If she were posing without the bikini top and the same photo was shown here, how many of us would assume we were looking at a dude?
As for the powerful image I would not mind if she had her tight thighs around my head as I look up at her ripped abs if you know what I mean I love woman with muscle even if there are no boobies.
[quote]sasquatch wrote:
DrewZ wrote:
Jillybop wrote:
this thread irritates me…
It irritates you because it’s not about you. If you were as proud as that woman is about the way you look you’d be flashing skin every chance you got. Bottom line: sexy women get big reactions. If you don’t like what anyone is saying, then don’t look.
That’s sooo wrong drewz. I’ve seen enough of Jilly to know what she was talking about. It had nothing to do with that.
I took a freebie, but you are off base.[/quote]
Whatever. Maybe I’m way off. But I’m right about one thing. If she doesn’t like it, she shouldn’t look. Of course she’s just as free to express her opinion as any of us, but she sure as hell isn’t going to stop guys from being guys. Why not avoid the frustration.
[quote]DrewZ wrote:
Jillybop wrote:
this thread irritates me…
It irritates you because it’s not about you. If you were as proud as that woman is about the way you look you’d be flashing skin every chance you got. Bottom line: sexy women get big reactions. If you don’t like what anyone is saying, then don’t look.[/quote]
Well you’re an asshole, aren’t you?
Don’t you dare talk about Jilly like that. That’s not at all why she doesn’t like this thread.
I’d bet it has to do with the negative comments about something as stupid as low bf and small breasts when this woman has obviously worked her ass off to get to the physical condition she is in.
I think she looks awesome. I especially like that she was (at the time of this picture) secure enough with her body to not need to augment it even though she lost breast size due to leaning out.
I find the double standard about muscularity to be irritating. You guys are all about getting huge and strong and shredded but you seem to want the women to stay smaller and weaker. Rather than applauding someone for her hard work you say she looks disgusting or too manly or needs to have less muscle.
Why should a woman stop lifting as hard or just maintain herself at a certain level instead of continuing to push herself to achieve more strength or gain more muscle? I don’t find any woman too muscular until she starts using gear. Same with guys, I prefer natural.
Well, the reason would be, by doing so and taking her body to those extremes, 99% of men (just a guess) would be disgusted by her appearance.
Now if building her body this way is more valueable than losing 99% of her potential mates then she should go for it. In fact, if the above is the case, then this would make finding a proper man for her easier since her body would be a very effective screening method.
Now as far as the double standard goes, uh . . . men and women are different. Just because I want to be 260 pounds of muscle doesn’t mean I’m attracted to women that are. I really don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp.
[quote]sic 10-52 wrote:
Why should a woman stop lifting as hard or just maintain herself at a certain level instead of continuing to push herself to achieve more strength or gain more muscle? [/quote]
Careful with the “you guys are all the same” talk. There are a lot of us that like women with muscle, and have said so repeatedly. Don’t lump us together with dickless soy-boys who are skeeered of women with muscle.
Sorry to interupt - please go back to smacking Drew about. I like it when you get rough.
Oh, and just in case, don’t lump ME with Drew. He’s rude.
And, once again, I have to say that it isn’t an issue of fearing women with relatively large muscles and extremely low bodyfat. Well unless there are some guys here who are afraid of her.
EDIT Okay, I admit it: If I were in bed with the lights out trying to go to sleep and I saw the 12-7 Powerful Image creeping up on me . . . I’d freak out. But that’s only because it would look like some ripped version of Freddy Kruger had finally come alive to kill me.
[quote]Massif wrote:
Sic,
Sorry to interupt - please go back to smacking Drew about. I like it when you get rough.[/quote]
It irritates you because it’s not about you. If you were as proud as that woman is about the way you look you’d be flashing skin every chance you got. Bottom line: sexy women get big reactions. If you don’t like what anyone is saying, then don’t look.
Well you’re an asshole, aren’t you?
Don’t you dare talk about Jilly like that. That’s not at all why she doesn’t like this thread.
I’d bet it has to do with the negative comments about something as stupid as low bf and small breasts when this woman has obviously worked her ass off to get to the physical condition she is in.
I think she looks awesome. I especially like that she was (at the time of this picture) secure enough with her body to not need to augment it even though she lost breast size due to leaning out.
I find the double standard about muscularity to be irritating. You guys are all about getting huge and strong and shredded but you seem to want the women to stay smaller and weaker. Rather than applauding someone for her hard work you say she looks disgusting or too manly or needs to have less muscle.
Why should a woman stop lifting as hard or just maintain herself at a certain level instead of continuing to push herself to achieve more strength or gain more muscle? I don’t find any woman too muscular until she starts using gear. Same with guys, I prefer natural.[/quote]
Uhh, no offense
That woman was most definately on the juice.
And it’s not as simple as a double standard. Most guys on this site and certainly in my area are not training to be Mr. Olympia. Most guys are not training to just simply get as huge as humanly possible.
I like my woman(women) in shape and all, but that is not attractive to me.
It’s hardly a fair comparison to say we like our women weak to then saying we want our women to look like male Mr. olympia candidates. There is room just left of center there where we can meet.
[quote]Natural Nate wrote:
Now as far as the double standard goes, uh . . . men and women are different. Just because I want to be 260 pounds of muscle doesn’t mean I’m attracted to women that are. I really don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp.
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I do grasp that. I don’t think you have to be attracted to her. I think what pisses me off is when some of you guys (notice I didn’t say all, Massif), rather than looking at her physique and recognizing her hard work, only look at her in terms of her hittableness.
I don’t know, I’m not an expert at picking them out. But I don’t see that she’s any more developed than Christiane was in her recent competition and no one questioned whether she was using.
