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[quote]Jinx Me wrote:
You might not have said “if you like that, you’re gay” but a few others have more or less said that. I think that comment was directed to them.
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There’s no might about it really

However, you’ve confused me. (Admittedly, not a difficult thing to achieve at times…but still :)) when you say ‘that comment’ I’m not entirely sure which comment you’re referring to, something I said, or something someone else said?

My whole point was simply that it gets tiring reading all the ‘gay comments’, somewhat ironically, perhaps, you tend to get them more relating to muscular women than you do with relation to comments about male body-builders

See, I hugely disagree with this; and it’s a sad commentary on the ostensible ‘mainstream image guy’.

My interpretation would be: if a guy was into masculine/muscular looking woman, then what he liked was masculine/muscular looking woman, not men. But then, even if the ‘big women’ thing was a projection, so what? It still doesn’t, and shouldn’t, necessitate, nor precipitate, the use of ‘Gay’ in the perjorative form.

That being said, your point is probably vaild, if a somewhat sad commentary. shrug

True. nods The thing is though, and, perhaps, this is what saddens me most, is that most people resort to the use of labels instead of just accepting that different people have different ideas/ values etc.

I can never understand, for example, what it’s like to be a woman (I wouldn’t even try), but I can accept that a woman’s experience/ perspectives are different. Of course, this doesn’t make said difference right/wrong or better/worse but it should, and I stress the should, stop stupid labels being applied to different experience.

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Guys who don’t workout at all often feel that a girl with even a moderate level of muscularity looks too hard.[/quote]

True - but a lot of short guys don’t like tall women as they feel weak/ non-masculine (excuse the looseness of the analogy, I’m stretching here to make a point); do we say to short guys who like tall women…“you have a problem with your height”?

heh :slight_smile:

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[quote]simon-hecubus wrote:
simon-hecubus wrote:
Your two paragraphs are at odds with each other. Unless you’re a licensed psychiatrist and I’m paying you $100/hr, I’ll thank you to keep your questions to yourself.

Headhunter wrote:
Is this last sentence from personal experience?

What’s the difference? Are you judging people who go to psychiatrists now?![/quote]

I’m not judging anyone. I merely suggested that men who like male characteristics in their women might like to go both ways or be latently gay. Why is that such a leap and why is it so offensive to put that out there? Are we so touchy about this topic that its somehow taboo?

I would actually question the sanity of a woman who wants to look like that, esp at the expense of her health. That’s her choice of course, but if its on a public board, I WILL comment.

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[quote]iscariot wrote:
Jinx Me wrote:
You might not have said “if you like that, you’re gay” but a few others have more or less said that. I think that comment was directed to them.

There’s no might about it really

However, you’ve confused me. (Admittedly, not a difficult thing to achieve at times…but still :)) when you say ‘that comment’ I’m not entirely sure which comment you’re referring to, something I said, or something someone else said?

My whole point was simply that it gets tiring reading all the ‘gay comments’, somewhat ironically, perhaps, you tend to get them more relating to muscular women than you do with relation to comments about male body-builders

It’s a logical leap for a guy who’s into the mainsteam image of femininity to assume that a guy who likes a more masculine/muscular looking woman is gay.

See, I hugely disagree with this; and it’s a sad commentary on the ostensible ‘mainstream image guy’.

My interpretation would be: if a guy was into masculine/muscular looking woman, then what he liked was masculine/muscular looking woman, not men. But then, even if the ‘big women’ thing was a projection, so what? It still doesn’t, and shouldn’t, necessitate, nor precipitate, the use of ‘Gay’ in the perjorative form.

That being said, your point is probably vaild, if a somewhat sad commentary. shrug

I just think that for those of us who are into mainstream, it’s hard to understand the perspectives of those who aren’t, and then assumptions are made and labels applied.

True. nods The thing is though, and, perhaps, this is what saddens me most, is that most people resort to the use of labels instead of just accepting that different people have different ideas/ values etc.

I can never understand, for example, what it’s like to be a woman (I wouldn’t even try), but I can accept that a woman’s experience/ perspectives are different. Of course, this doesn’t make said difference right/wrong or better/worse but it should, and I stress the should, stop stupid labels being applied to different experience.

Guys who don’t workout at all often feel that a girl with even a moderate level of muscularity looks too hard.

True - but a lot of short guys don’t like tall women as they feel weak/ non-masculine (excuse the looseness of the analogy, I’m stretching here to make a point); do we say to short guys who like tall women…“you have a problem with your height”?

heh :)[/quote]

Thanks for the well thought out response :slight_smile:

When I mentioned guys who don’t work out preferring less muscular women, I meant to illustrate how being into a certain subculture like lifting can affect perception. Most guys who lift are more down with muscular women - they’re just accustomed to seeing muscle and admiring muscle.

Actually your point about shorter guys is perfect - people want to be with someone they relate to in a certain way. It actually illustrates my point quite perfectly.