[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
Thunderbolt - My intention with this thread was to show that Christians have great strength in times of trouble because of Christ. No hidden agenda. No banner waving. Nothing fraudulent or deceptive.
Here is what you said in another thread:
"Hey Steveo -
This is a fantastic idea for a post! Everytime a soul is won to God, the angels in heaven rejoice! And so do I!
Brother in Christ - By His blood alone!"
(responding to the Post Here to Accept Jesus Christ thread)
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=934564&pageNo=5
I merely wanted to show that things that decimate most people don’t decimate Christians because Christians (true Christians) are strong in God. Was the timing really that poor? In the face of constant Christian bashing, I don’t think so.
If you are watching the Super Bowl with your friends, and the game is close, and when it hits the two minutes mark, do you shut off the TV, stand up in front of the room, and begin delivering Scripture to your pals?
No? It’s because of context.
If you see a guy in the middle of his workout at a gym with his headphones on, do you go tap him on the head to start delivering tales of conversion?
No? It’s because of context.
You know - or should know - that context can determine that certain kinds of conversations have ‘right time, right place’ parameters in place. I offer that if you truly want to get people to think constructively about Christianity - truly - this thread was neither the right time nor the right place.
You don’t see that because you measure yourself through effort alone - you could be maing people less interested in Christianity than they ever have been, but you don’t care - your only goal is personal, i.e., to feel all warm and fuzzy that you tried.
That is why I think they way I do - you don’t have to be ‘embarrassed’ or ‘ashamed’ of your religion to have a clue when to bring it up and when not to based on context. Moving along…
Unfortunately, the strength of Christians didn’t show through. Instead, the hatred of atheists is what the readers have seen. Is that bad? Perhaps, and perhaps not.
Sure it did, and stop the arrogant posturing. I am a Christian and I think your thread was a bad idea. Does that disqualify me?
If any reader that see the title of this thread and pulls it up to see the power of Christ, the result may be surprising. The big question is, does it glorify God? I suggest it does. The immediate contributions from the atheists show that people void of God have no positive or constructive power - they only have hatred and perversion.
Trust me, most people antagonistic toward religion hide behind Hysteria, Hperbole, and Sarcasm - and I am no fan of it. However, fear of their responses has nothing to do with why I think this a bad thread.
Too bad the real Christians were not able to keep the original intention of the thread alive.
Exactly what is a ‘real Christian’? I find your country-club-Christianity off-putting, and I suspect all those wayward souls you hope to connect with on T-Nation do too.[/quote]
As a matter of being in context, I was under the impression that these threads stand alone. I didn’t realize this thread was like the superbowl or the gym. I thought the title “Power of Christ” was pretty obvious. I still think it was obvious.
Why are you posting backhanded insults like “country-club-Christianity”? See my previous post detailing true Christians and false Christians. Anyone can call themselves a Christian, but to live the Christian life - well, that is a differnt matter.
I don’t recall you being forced to particpate in this thread - same goes for everyone else. That is where free will comes in. This is not a gathering of chums watching the superbowl. It, in context, is a thread about the “Power of Christ” that has been overrun by hateful people.
BTW - what have I done that led to that rude little “country-club Christian” comment? Was it the part about angels rejoicing in heaven? Again, that is biblical.