[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
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Please list those strengths. Because other than oration, I’d see nothing to get excited about…A lightening tongue may work wonders on a clitoris, but a president it does not make.
Here’s Powell’s list:
Video:
[i][Obama] displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge and an approach to looking at problems like this and picking a vice president that, I think, is ready to be president on day one. And also, in not just jumping in and changing every day, but showing intellectual vigor. I think that he has a, a definitive way of doing business that would serve us well.
Mr. Obama, at the same time, has given us a more inclusive, broader reach into the needs and aspirations of our people. He’s crossing lines–ethnic lines, racial lines, generational lines. He’s thinking about all villages have values, all towns have values, not just small towns have values.
So, when I look at all of this and I think back to my Army career, we’ve got two individuals, either one of them could be a good president. [u]But which is the president that we need now? Which is the individual that serves the needs of the nation for the next period of time?
And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities–and we have to take that into account–as well as his substance–he has both style and substance–he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president.
I think he is a transformational figure. [/u] He is a new generation coming into the world–onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I’ll be voting for Senator Barack Obama. [/i]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223/page/2/
The omitted part regarding the McCain Campaign and republicans in general is quite something to read over too.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Here’s Powell’s list:
Video:
[i][Obama] displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge and an approach to looking at problems like this and picking a vice president that, I think, is ready to be president on day one. And also, in not just jumping in and changing every day, but showing intellectual vigor. I think that he has a, a definitive way of doing business that would serve us well.
Mr. Obama, at the same time, has given us a more inclusive, broader reach into the needs and aspirations of our people. He’s crossing lines–ethnic lines, racial lines, generational lines. He’s thinking about all villages have values, all towns have values, not just small towns have values.
So, when I look at all of this and I think back to my Army career, we’ve got two individuals, either one of them could be a good president. But which is the president that we need now? Which is the individual that serves the needs of the nation for the next period of time? And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities–and we have to take that into account–as well as his substance–he has both style and substance–he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure. He is a new generation coming into the world–onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I’ll be voting for Senator Barack Obama. [/i]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223/page/2/
The omitted part regarding the McCain Campaign and republicans in general is quite something to read over too.
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I lost all respect for Powell when I saw this. He’s either hallucinating or an idiot.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
<<< Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
Same dealer?[/quote]
Wow… wow. Tell us how you really feel.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
Here’s Powell’s list:
Video:
[i][Obama] displayed a steadiness, an intellectual curiosity, a depth of knowledge and an approach to looking at problems like this and picking a vice president that, I think, is ready to be president on day one. And also, in not just jumping in and changing every day, but showing intellectual vigor. I think that he has a, a definitive way of doing business that would serve us well.
Mr. Obama, at the same time, has given us a more inclusive, broader reach into the needs and aspirations of our people. He’s crossing lines–ethnic lines, racial lines, generational lines. He’s thinking about all villages have values, all towns have values, not just small towns have values.
So, when I look at all of this and I think back to my Army career, we’ve got two individuals, either one of them could be a good president. [u]But which is the president that we need now? Which is the individual that serves the needs of the nation for the next period of time?
And I come to the conclusion that because of his ability to inspire, because of the inclusive nature of his campaign, because he is reaching out all across America, because of who he is and his rhetorical abilities–and we have to take that into account–as well as his substance–he has both style and substance–he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president.
I think he is a transformational figure. [/u] He is a new generation coming into the world–onto the world stage, onto the American stage, and for that reason I’ll be voting for Senator Barack Obama. [/i]
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27266223/page/2/
The omitted part regarding the McCain Campaign and republicans in general is quite something to read over too.
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I just threw up a little in my mouth when I read that. powell is as full of his own sh*T as obama.
Sir Colin Powell Lied To The World About Iraq Now Lies About Obama
Gen. Powell 2008 In The Nepotistic Footsteps Of Field Marshal von Hindenburg 1933
By Webster G. Tarpley 10-19-8
WASHINGTON DC – Colin Powell, who five years ago deliberately lied to the UN Security Council about non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, now craves public attention for his endorsement of the totalitarian demagogue Obama. Powell is promising national rebirth under Obama, the evident darling of the ruling financier elite. Does Sir Colin (who was knighted by the Queen of England for his services in killing Arabs) still believe in Saddam’s WMDs? It looks like the same people who brought us the catastrophic Iraq war are determined to install Obama in the White House.
Powell is one of the most pompous and monumental failures in American public life. He has played a leading role in every US policy debacle of the last half-century, including Vietnam, the Iraq-Kuwait war, and now the Iraq war. He also served as a helper to Frank Carlucci in suppressing the White House evidence that would have sent Bush the elder to the federal pen as a result of Iran-contra gun running and drug running twenty years ago. Powell is known to get his marching orders from an intelligence network that stretches from the CIA to the Pentagon, and which includes such unsavory figures as Richard Armitage (the man who outed Valerie Plame), who is probably still Powell’s best friend. Powell has brought this country many disasters, and he now wants to bring us a truly incalculable one  a seizure of power by the totalitarian trio of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid.
Why is the discredited and hated liar Powell coming out of the obscurity of his retirement to pontificate about the superiority of Obama? The best bet is that he is angling for a political plum job for his sleazy, no-talent, and nepotistic son, Michael Powell, who did such an incompetent job as head of the Federal Communications Commission during the first term of the current Bush. Powell used libertarian cover to serve the telecom monopolies and cartels while seeking to suppress free speech. It is well known Michael Powell got his FCC chairmanship thanks to lobbying and influence peddling by his famous father, and for no other reason. Thanks to daddy, Michael has since become a trustee of the genocidal RAND Corporation, where Zbigniew Brzezinski and others make strategy for their puppet Obama. Now, with the prospect of an Obama regime, Colin Powell is anxious to take care of his feckless son for the decade ahead.
Colin Powell recalls the story of another soldier turned politician  Field Marshal Paul von Hindenburg, who was a top German commander in World War I and then President of Germany under the Weimar republic. Von Hindenburg had his own corrupt and greedy son, Oskar von Hindenburg. Oskar, like Michael Powell, had only made it to being a field grade officer and had then turned to political influence peddling, trading on his father’s famous name.
Oskar became involved in corruption and embezzlement schemes, and built up huge gambling debts. Field Marshall von Hindenburg’s desire to protect his son and advance his career was one of the main reasons the elderly German President dropped his long-standing opposition to naming a certain Bohemian corporal named Adolf Hitler as chancellor in January 1933.
President Hindenburg put the needs of his wastrel son over the fate of his nation, and Colin Powell seems to be doing the same thing today. In retrospect, we know the terrible price paid by the German people for Hindenburg’s weakness in 1933. What price will the American people have to pay for a seizure of power by the Obama machine? It is not too late to make sure that we never find out.
Webster G. Tarpley is the author of Obama  The Postmodern Coup: The Making of a Manchurian Candidate and of Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, both available from amazon.com.
Is Webster G. Tarpley perhaps a relative of Lifty?
Incredible mix of profound truth and astonishing fantasy.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
So I guess Powell is now a traitor…Socialist Marxist…unpatriotic…terrorist…racist nigger…and worse of all…Jamaican Rasta mon.
Guilt by association…that’s how it works,right??[/quote]
This exact type of trollish dickery is why I haven’t posted here regularly in awhile.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
So I guess Powell is now a traitor…Socialist Marxist…unpatriotic…terrorist…racist nigger…and worse of all…Jamaican Rasta mon.
Guilt by association…that’s how it works,right??
This exact type of trollish dickery is why I haven’t posted here regularly in awhile.[/quote]
Well,that was my point…that’s the “exact type of trollish dickery” people use to make arguments on here as of late…which is why I rarely post on PWI.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Is Webster G. Tarpley perhaps a relative of Lifty?
Incredible mix of profound truth and astonishing fantasy.[/quote]
How so?
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Colin Powell was never a conservative. He is the reason the war was not prosecuted in the most vicious way possible.
Ha! If you are talking about the first gulf war you couldn’t be more incorrect. He was never the “decider in chief.”
Regardless, being conservative has nothing to do with how war is prosecuted. The war was not prosecuted more “viciously” for political reasons; namely Bush I’s re-election campaign.
Once again, the resident slow-belly misunderstands the (recent) historical data. [/quote]
I hope you’re referring to both of them.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
That’s funny because in several different forums, I haven’t had one Obama supporter outline exactly what they are beyond “hope” and “change”, and that he’s not George Bush.
I never knew that Powell, while fighting Marxism his whole military career actually endorsed it.
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What is wrong with being Marxist? Groucho has some great quotes.
[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
Why don’t you start naming his accomplishments?
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Well, we’re waiting? Oh, wait…that was the list, nothing.
Powell drops the hammer on McCain
By: Roger Simon
October 21, 2008 10:53 AM EST
The scene is �??Meet the Press�?? on Sunday. Tom Brokaw has just asked Colin Powell if he is prepared to say whether he is supporting John McCain, to whom he has contributed money, or Barack Obama, whom Powell has told he will not support �??just because you�??re black.�??
Colin Powell is, indeed, prepared to say whom he is supporting. And he does so for the next seven minutes and eight seconds, a lifetime on television, which Brokaw has the wisdom not to interrupt.
Speaking with neither anger nor malice, Powell�??s words nonetheless fall like hammer blows on McCain.
�??I found that he was a little unsure as to [how to] deal with the economic problems that we were having, and almost every day there was a different approach to the problem,�?? Powell says of McCain.
And that is a concern, Powell says, because McCain doesn�??t seem to have a �??complete grasp�?? of our economic difficulties.
Sarah Palin?
�??I don�??t believe she�??s ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president,�?? Powell says. �??And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Sen. McCain made.�??
[u]You keeping score? McCain doesn�??t understand the economic crisis, is erratic, is trying to foist an unqualified vice president on the nation and has shown questionable judgment.
Can it get worse? It gets worse.[/u]
Powell, who is of the same generation as McCain (Powell is a year younger), of the same party and of the same military background, criticizes McCain for his negative campaigning, for being �??narrow,�?? and for aiding and abetting the �??rightward shift�?? in Republican politics.
And then there is the Supreme Court. �??I would have difficulty with two more conservative appointments to the Supreme Court, but that�??s what we�??d be looking at in a McCain administration,�?? Powell says.
Powell is a Republican, but a Republican who is troubled when he hears �??senior members of my own party�?? suggest that Obama is �??a Muslim and he might be associated [with] terrorists.�??
�??This is not the way we should be doing it in America,�?? Powell says, and then continues with a poignant defense of American Muslims and points out that some are buried in Arlington National Cemetery, having given their lives for their country.
Powell concludes by saying that he is voting for Obama not just because of Obama�??s �??ability to inspire�?? but because �??he has met the standard of being a successful president, being an exceptional president. I think he is a transformational figure.�??
That Powell would endorse Obama was not entirely shocking �?? their politics are not far apart �?? but the breadth and depth of Powell�??s criticism of McCain was a surprise. Perhaps it should not have been.
The scene is a Ramada hotel in Alexandria, Va. It is Nov. 8, 1995. Colin Powell is leading in the polls for the Republican nomination for president, even though he has not announced whether he will run. He has written a highly successful book, gone on a promotional tour and even appeared on �??The Tonight Show With Jay Leno.�?? (Leno asks Powell whether his first name should be pronounced �??collin�?? or �??colon.�?? Powell replies that he would prefer to be called �??Skip.�??)
Now, Powell has called a news conference to announce his plans. I get there 90 minutes early, and there are already more than 100 reporters and 29 TV cameras in the ballroom. The buzz is that Powell will launch his presidential campaign this day.
But he surprises. He says he will not run. He says that while he has demonstrated �??passion and commitment�?? in his past jobs �?? chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, national security adviser, Army general �?? he has no such passion for �??political life.�??
He says that if he had decided to run, he would have done �??fairly well,�?? but he is troubled by what presidential campaigning has become in this country.
�??We all should be concerned over the nature of attack, ad hominem attack, designed to destroy character,�?? Powell says. He says that candidates should draw the line when it comes to �??incivility.�??
�??Don�??t give up on the political process; fix it,�?? Powell says. �??It�??s a great system. It just needs tidying up.�??
But who is trying to make it tidy?
The scene is the Straight Talk Express, the old Straight Talk Express, in 1999 �?? the one stuffed with reporters asking John McCain question after question and getting answer after answer, hour after hour. McCain is enjoying himself, even when the reporters, having exhausted all serious topics, turn goofy and play �??favorites�?? with him, asking him his favorite tree (cottonwood), favorite breakfast cereal (Raisin Bran) and favorite toothpaste (Colgate).
And then there is this exchange that I recorded for history:
Favorite word, a reporter asks.
�??Principle,�?? McCain says.
Favorite dead hero.
�??Uh, Julius Caesar,�?? McCain says.
Favorite dead hero within the last 2,000 years.
�??OK, off the top of my head, Lincoln,�?? McCain says. �??Although the more I read and study, the more intrigued I am by Teddy Roosevelt.�??
Favorite living hero.
�??Colin Powell,�?? McCain says instantly. �??Served his country. A wonderful man.�??
Today, McCain may wish to revise and extend his remarks.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=1CF17D98-18FE-70B2-A8FC2067CE62F2CC
Lol. Yeah, and Obama understands the economic crises?! Are you kidding me? This was one of the reasons Powell gave?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Lol. Yeah, and Obama understands the economic crises?! Are you kidding me? This was one of the reasons Powell gave?[/quote]
Every reason Powell gave forces the conclusion once again that he is either stoned or a political imbecile.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Powell showed his true colors.
One color and it’s BLACK.
I don’t think that’s IT. Powell is a liberal. Now we know for sure though I never had much faith in him to begin with. He advocated the first gulf war (sheepishly), but had no problem with relinquishing command to the UN and agreed with the resolution (or non resolution) not to eliminate Hussein when we had him in our cross hairs and could have saved us and the world all this bullshit were in the middle of now.[/quote]
Yup. He fucked up GW1. I never liked the guy.
[quote]dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.[/quote]
Buffet has always been a lefty. Many business people like big government as it is their biggest customer.
[quote]milod wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Another gem: Powell claimed that race was NOT an issue. Well, General, show us the white inexperienced politicians you’ve endorsed before.
Powell endorsed George W. Bush for President in 2000, after having initially supported McCain during the primary. At that time, Bush’s only political experience was six years as Governor of Texas. In comparison, Obama has served eight years in the Illinois State Senate and nearly three years in the United States Senate.[/quote]
Yes, the man is an opportunist and he is endorsing the front runner in order to get a position in the administration. Shameful.