Powell Endorses Obama

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Powell is far too smart to be a Republican anymore. I’ve always respected him… now I respect him more.[/quote]

U.N. speech-uranium in Africa-PAY BACK

Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081019/ap_on_el_pr/powell

I like to criticize BS polls as being unreliable and think that McCain still has a shot but now…

As I’ve said on other threads, 95% of all black people favor obama over McCain. Are we supposed to be surprised over this?[/quote]

Wow! The only other 5% that I ever heard of that pertained to black people is a black racsit group called “the 5%”. Maybe I’ll start a new wing of black conservatives.

[quote]dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.[/quote]

Buffet likes to make money–hence he supports a Democrat. If you want to make money on the stock market, you aren’t going to want a Republican. Not everybody is concerned with abortion and gay marriage.

[quote]100meters wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.

Buffet likes to make money–hence he supports a Democrat. If you want to make money on the stock market, you aren’t going to want a Republican. Not everybody is concerned with abortion and gay marriage.[/quote]

[i]Buffett said he makes $46 million a year in income and is only taxed at a 17.7 percent rate on his federal income taxes. By contrast, those who work for him, and make considerably less, pay on average about 32.9 percent in taxes - with the highest rate being 39.7 percent.

To emphasize his point, Buffett offered $1 million to the audience member who could show that one of the nation’s wealthiest individuals pays a higher tax rate than one of their subordinates.

“I’m willing to bet anyone in this room $1 million that those rates are less than the secretary has to pay,” said Buffett.[/i]

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/26/news/newsmakers/clinton_buffett/index.htm?postversion=2007062700

[quote]dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.[/quote]

A good investor can make money no matter who is in office.

[quote]jawara wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
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I like to criticize BS polls as being unreliable and think that McCain still has a shot but now…

As I’ve said on other threads, 95% of all black people favor obama over McCain. Are we supposed to be surprised over this?

Wow! The only other 5% that I ever heard of that pertained to black people is a black racsit group called “the 5%”. Maybe I’ll start a new wing of black conservatives.[/quote]

Ya know what’s funny about that? Black conservatives, like all conservatives, don’t tend to see themselves in terms of their ethnicity first. That’s why there aren’t any high profile black conservative groups even though there are more black conservatives than many believe. Conservative ideology doesn’t naturally engender division like the nanny statist ideology does.

I’ll tell ya what. Yesterday, my wife was out and she called me on the phone and said you have got to turn on the radio around AM 1400, just trust me. There was a local Detroit black preacher on there giving the soundest, most resounding, atomic blast criticism of Barack Obama I have ever heard… ever.

Picture everything I’ve ever said in this forum, in those words, coming from a black minister. He was pleading with the citizens of Detroit who are 80% black. [quote]"This guy is a God hating, America hating marxist, elitest, big government, pro abortion, family destroying social/financial engineer who would be worse for the black people of this country than the KKK[/quote] his words. He said racism, while clearly evil, drove people to faith family and each other, but liberalism which is the seed bed of fascism has successfully duped people of all races, but especially black people into a hopeless whirlpool of emasculating, dehumanizing self destructive government dependence.

I had my ear pasted to the radio. Fantastic, really. He even said that the principles that made America great are color blind and can be harnessed by anyone of any race that will avail themselves of them, but what Barack Obama advocates is not American in any way. I thought I was listening to myself. There are some real men left who will not be taken captive by this socialist con man.

Unfortunately it appears that Powell is not one of them.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
100meters wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.

Buffet likes to make money–hence he supports a Democrat. If you want to make money on the stock market, you aren’t going to want a Republican. Not everybody is concerned with abortion and gay marriage.

[i]Buffett said he makes $46 million a year in income and is only taxed at a 17.7 percent rate on his federal income taxes. By contrast, those who work for him, and make considerably less, pay on average about 32.9 percent in taxes - with the highest rate being 39.7 percent.

To emphasize his point, Buffett offered $1 million to the audience member who could show that one of the nation’s wealthiest individuals pays a higher tax rate than one of their subordinates.

“I’m willing to bet anyone in this room $1 million that those rates are less than the secretary has to pay,” said Buffett.[/i]

http://money.cnn.com/2007/06/26/news/newsmakers/clinton_buffett/index.htm?postversion=2007062700[/quote]

Hense the “working FOR him part”

They need better accountants, and have a shitty portfolio that is too focused on short term gain. Anyone paying that much is either making enough to afford it so I could give a shit, has an awful tax advisor, an awful asset manager, or is just plan stupid with their money.

More money = more options, more options = less taxable income

Is it fair? Maybe not, but is it fair that a Lion has sharp ass teeth and can run fast, and a Gazelle can only run fast? Not really.

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
dhickey wrote:
Who gives a shit about a Powell endorsement. The Buffet endorsement is the one that baffles me. Unless he’s like Soros and sees complete cluster fucks as an oportunity to make money.

A good investor can make money no matter who is in office.[/quote]

x2

I would only change the ‘can’ to ‘will’

[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
He says he knew McCain for 25 years and Obama for 7 weeks. He then endorses Obama. He attacks McCain for changing his positions, but endorses Obama after 7 weeks. Hello? You changed your position, probably for spurious reasons.

And this guy is looked up to? He’s an idiot. He was the prime motivator to get Bush and Congress into Gulf War II.

This is what happens when you hire/promote using affirmative Action.

That’s a blatant lie and you know it. Powell was pressured by the Bush administration and by Cheney in particular to deliver that testimony to the UN. They handed him the so called evidence. Should he have refused? Probably.

He didn’t.

But he’s the only one brave enough to take the consequences and resign, which is something that can not be said about your heroes.

Now you’re trying to weasel out from under your responsibility. You supported Bush and his whole lying administration. You cheered them on when they picked a war with Iraq.

Now when it turns sour you try to shift the blame on the only black guy in the room?

This reminds me about your silly, silly post where you claim to admire dr. M.L. King but chose to believe all the lies some white gay fat guy in a pink tutu spread around. Remember that one HH? Another glorious day.[/quote]

Another gem: Powell claimed that race was NOT an issue. Well, General, show us the white inexperienced politicians you’ve endorsed before.

Shouldn’t the Obama-Left be denouncing this endorsement? One of the key tenets of Obama’s campaign is to villify all those associated with Bush and the Iraq war.

How short the Left’s memory is. Here’s a gem from DailyKos 2004:

Shouldn’t Obama being running from this (overrated) endorsement?

Well he can endorse who he wants, perhaps he wants to sweep under the rug, his contribution to the onset of the Iraq War…It was his presentation to the security counsel, it was his idea in large part. Maybe he is seeking absolution with what ultimately turned out to be a mistake. Perhaps he should try God himself rather than the proclaimed messiah Obama. Obama can’t erase his sins.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Another gem: Powell claimed that race was NOT an issue. Well, General, show us the white inexperienced politicians you’ve endorsed before.
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Powell endorsed George W. Bush for President in 2000, after having initially supported McCain during the primary. At that time, Bush’s only political experience was six years as Governor of Texas. In comparison, Obama has served eight years in the Illinois State Senate and nearly three years in the United States Senate.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
As long as the right can maintain at least 41 conservative members in the Senate - I could give a shit who wins the whitehouse.
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Dude, I am with you on this one. I generally vote Dem, but with too much power they will do some stupid shit. I don’t want to see either party ever get a super 60 in the senate. There definite needs to be some reigns on horse.

The republicans need to get on the ball and stop focussing on the McCain campaign and start circling the wagons on holding their Senate seats.

[quote]pat wrote:
Well he can endorse who he wants, perhaps he wants to sweep under the rug, his contribution to the onset of the Iraq War…It was his presentation to the security counsel, it was his idea in large part. Maybe he is seeking absolution with what ultimately turned out to be a mistake. Perhaps he should try God himself rather than the proclaimed messiah Obama. Obama can’t erase his sins.[/quote]

I think Powell has taken more responsibility than any of the top heads have for his WMD fuck up and invasion of Iraq. Explain how it was LARGELY his idea?? So where do Bush,Rumsfeld,and Cheney sit on the “turd totem pole?”

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Shouldn’t the Obama-Left be denouncing this endorsement? One of the key tenets of Obama’s campaign is to villify all those associated with Bush and the Iraq war.

How short the Left’s memory is. Here’s a gem from DailyKos 2004:

Shouldn’t Obama being running from this (overrated) endorsement?[/quote]

Stuck in the past, SD? Powell recently expressed all that became wrong with the administration. How can I condemn a man who realized his faults and has accounted for them? I don’t think Bush has ever taken responsibility for any of his failures.

Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
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Cradle to grave Nanny State advocacy?

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
<<< Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
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Same dealer?

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Powell sees the same strengths in Obama that all Obama supporters see.
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That’s funny because in several different forums, I haven’t had one Obama supporter outline exactly what they are beyond “hope” and “change”, and that he’s not George Bush.

I never knew that Powell, while fighting Marxism his whole military career actually endorsed it.

So I guess Powell is now a traitor…Socialist Marxist…unpatriotic…terrorist…racist nigger…and worse of all…Jamaican Rasta mon.

Guilt by association…that’s how it works,right??