And once again, Godwin’s Law is proven, and in record time too!
Does that detract from the argument?[/quote]
I know you are absolutely right in the root of your argument – that praising somebody for not changing his/her mind is retarded. However, I’ve been around Internet forums for 22 years and the fact that Godwin’s Law applies so perfectly did reduce the value of that particular comparison to a point people are completely desensitized – so I urge you to use a fresher comparison, especially and in particular precisely because I do agree with your root point.
Bush’s biggest strength is that he understands this.
Many of the people that post here seem to forget this including both of you guys.
The west is at war with radical Islam. You guys want to quibble against small things while Bush wants to fight.
I see no other politician that understands this as well as GWB.[/quote]
How much of this do you think can be blamed on the media. We live in an age where most people believe what the general media tells them. It reports sensationalism and it supports the liberal agenda - that is why you rarely see pictures of happy Iraqies, or the video of a young soldier that says he is not angry that he lost a leg giving freedom to the oppressed people over there.
Everyone wants us out of Iraq - we just need to get them to a point where we can leave and the oppression won’t start again.
[quote]terribleivan wrote:
How much of this do you think can be blamed on the media. We live in an age where most people believe what the general media tells them. It reports sensationalism and it supports the liberal agenda - that is why you rarely see pictures of happy Iraqies, or the video of a young soldier that says he is not angry that he lost a leg giving freedom to the oppressed people over there.
Everyone wants us out of Iraq - we just need to get them to a point where we can leave and the oppression won’t start again.
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Oh please. If everyone believes the media and the MSM is so liberal biased, do you really think Bush would have been in office twice?
[quote]vroom wrote:
terribleivan wrote:
How much of this do you think can be blamed on the media. We live in an age where most people believe what the general media tells them. It reports sensationalism and it supports the liberal agenda - that is why you rarely see pictures of happy Iraqies, or the video of a young soldier that says he is not angry that he lost a leg giving freedom to the oppressed people over there.
Everyone wants us out of Iraq - we just need to get them to a point where we can leave and the oppression won’t start again.
Oh please. If everyone believes the media and the MSM is so liberal biased, do you really think Bush would have been in office twice?
Wake up.[/quote]
Apparently, that’s not good enough. They want every news station to “editorially” suck the president off during every newsbreaking story.
Bush’s biggest strength is that he understands this.
Many of the people that post here seem to forget this including both of you guys.
The west is at war with radical Islam. You guys want to quibble against small things while Bush wants to fight.
I see no other politician that understands this as well as GWB.
How much of this do you think can be blamed on the media. We live in an age where most people believe what the general media tells them. It reports sensationalism and it supports the liberal agenda - that is why you rarely see pictures of happy Iraqies, or the video of a young soldier that says he is not angry that he lost a leg giving freedom to the oppressed people over there.
Everyone wants us out of Iraq - we just need to get them to a point where we can leave and the oppression won’t start again.
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The media is certainly not reporting the full story.
Too many of them are interested in sucking up to the bad guys so they can get interviews.
CNN admits it whitewashed many of Saddams atrocites so they could continue to report from Baghdad.
He’s been working out. Oh, wait, this is jefferiffy we are talking about. Those must be the result of implants and liposuction. Jeeff hasn’t seen a gym since he was in a training bra.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Gregus wrote:
danmaftei wrote:
I’d just like to point out that if one person says Bush is a good president because he sticks to his guns and never flops I will kill you via e-mail anthrax. Lest we forget, Hitler stuck to his guns also. There’s nothing wrong with changing your mind. In fact, in the complex world of politics, it would be ridiculous over an 8-year collective term not to change your viewpoints.
With that said, I thoroughly dislike Bush, but given our other option, I can’t say one’s all that better than the other.
You know I’m glad you said that. People that stick to their guns are usually equippend with bricks for brains. I don’t know why, i mean i know why, i just don’t get this whole never admitting you’re wrong thing or changing your mind or views. Entirely too rigid a logic system for me.
I’m sure glad President Reagan “stuck to his guns” on the cold war issue. The former Soviet Union collapsed! The liberals attacked him then as a war monger.
And the Berlin wall came down…
Also, remember when all the liberals were crying that they wanted a “nuclear freeze?”
It’s actually funny now. But good thing we didn’t listen to them.
Hmm…I’m trying to think about the last time the liberals were actually correct on an important topic…Okay, I’ll have to get back to you on that one.
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How about the ousting of Milosevicj? A brutal dictator who commited genocide and ethnic cleansing. Clinton got him out without 1 single US soldier getting killed.
Compare that to Bush’s record.
Also, remember the Republicans fought him every step of the way.
It took them years to change their mind. Now they’re convinced they did good by removing Saddam.
2 differences though. The oil. And the blood.
