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[quote]deanec wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Dean, specifically what you quoted doesn’t seem to me to refer to sharing faith. I don’t have a problem with sharing one’s faith easier. But I think we could all agree that there is a difference between sharing and providing information for those expressing interest and seeking to pique interest without preaching to shoving one’s views and sense of God and religion down the throats of people with their own sense of it.

I agree, which is why I provided the scriptures that I believe back up my contention that salvation through faith in Christ is the only way. I don’t see where I tried to shove it down anyone’s throats.[/quote]

I guess the question is: Don’t you see a problem with that mode of thinking?

Consider that less than one third of the world’s population is Christian.

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Than I guess less than a third of the world is going to heaven! The only way to heaven is through Christ, period. I use to ask the same questions, what about the buddists,muslims,jews,atheists, and whoever else. Read the Gospels, Jesus will answer that one for you. A missionaries job is to spread the word to those who haven’t heard it. If you have and don’t accept it, sucks to be you.

“They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth NOT us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”

1 John 4:4-6

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It is worth noting that every religion has at least one branch that says their stance (bible, torah, koran) is correct and all others are not ‘saved’.

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“Do you believe in God, Winston?”

    --- 1984, George Orwell
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I believe in God
I believe Jesus Christ was the son of God

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I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God.

I believe that Jesus Christ thinks these threads are a waste of time.

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[quote]Odogg wrote:
Than I guess less than a third of the world is going to heaven! The only way to heaven is through Christ, period. I use to ask the same questions, what about the buddists,muslims,jews,atheists, and whoever else. Read the Gospels, Jesus will answer that one for you. A missionaries job is to spread the word to those who haven’t heard it. If you have and don’t accept it, sucks to be you.

“They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them. We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth NOT us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.”

1 John 4:4-6[/quote]

That doesn’t exactly mesh with the story of the Good Samaritan now does it?

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The Good Samaritan is about helping your fellow man, in this world; which is all we as human beings can do. Now as far as spiritual “help” once we die, not much we can do about that. Either you know him and accept him, or you don’t, it really is that simple.

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[quote]Odogg wrote:
A missionaries job is to spread the word to those who haven’t heard it.[/quote]\

So if for some reason a missionarie doesn’t reach you before you die, you go to Hell (through no fault of your own) while that slowpoke still gets to go to Heaven?

Yes, Divine Justice and Infinite Wisdom. I can see it now.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
singram wrote:
Man,look at the verbal vomit coming out of peoples mouths.They say they hate Christians because they are small minded and intolerant.Then they go off being intolerent and small minded on somebodys beliefs and religon.Oh you’re a Christian,because of you we have wars,look at WWII.I can’t help it if Hitler hijacked my religon to promote his twisted and evil deeds.You don’t like Christans,fine,I don’t care for your bigoted anti-anybody whos a christan ignorant asses.You see,I respect anybodys beliefs unless it promotes hate,which does include some so-called Christains.And the hate coming out of some of the atheist on this thread toward religon is just fucked up.

Nah. It is self-righteous, sanctimonius, pompous, smug and not in keeping with the spirit of God to state that Christianity is the only legitimate religion. Further, it’s a position than many Christian leaders have rejected. It is wrong to condemn Christianty and Christians simply because you don’t share their beliefs. There are many wonderful things in and of Christianity. Chrisitanity is great. Evangelicism and this ‘Jesus is the only path to salvation’ attitude is not, and it’s not wrong to condemn that.
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I agree 100%.I’m not the most devout Christian,but I’ve been saved and do belive if you’re a good person,God will let you in.No way the Jews who died in WWII went to hell because they didn’t accept Jesus Christ.My libertaran beliefs will not let me force my beliefs on anyone.

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The internet has to be the worst place for this type of discussion–if you can even call that. There are so many pseudo-experts; so many hypocritical and false statements made; NOTHING is solved, accomplished, or even meaningfully discussed. What a waist…

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[quote]deanec wrote:
singram wrote:
Man,look at the verbal vomit coming out of peoples mouths.They say they hate Christians because they are small minded and intolerant.Then they go off being intolerent and small minded on somebodys beliefs and religon.Oh you’re a Christian,because of you we have wars,look at WWII.I can’t help it if Hitler hijacked my religon to promote his twisted and evil deeds.You don’t like Christans,fine,I don’t care for your bigoted anti-anybody whos a christan ignorant asses.You see,I respect anybodys beliefs unless it promotes hate,which does include some so-called Christains.And the hate coming out of some of the atheist on this thread toward religon is just fucked up.

What do you hope to gain from this? You respond with venom to people who don’t believe the same way you do? Your language and demeanor are not congruous to what you claim to believe. Show me how this is a Christian attitude.[/quote]

Yes,I hate hate.That simple.I’m not claiming to be the worlds best Christian.And I didn’t include all atheist on this thread in my post,just the hypocrites,who by attcking Christianity,wind up being guilty of the same thing they’re accussing Christains to be.I’m not grouping all Atheist as being the same,but by the absurd beliefs of some Atheist on this thread,they’re accussing all Christains of being bad people.Sometimes I use naughty words to get my point across,I don’t think thats a major sin.

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Each person either experiences God’s presence or not. If God has not shown himself to someone, either God thinks it is not yet time or considers that person beyond redemption.

I have had two ‘encounters’ with the Lord. Sure, these could be dismissed by someone with an ax to grind; there’s always an ‘alternative’ explanation.

But, I state now, in the presence of God and all of you, that there is a God, I’ve heard his voice and I have been in his presence. Take it as you will, insult my intelligence, whatever. I can only state the truth.

And may God bless each of you!

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[quote]Odogg wrote:
The Good Samaritan is about helping your fellow man, in this world; which is all we as human beings can do. Now as far as spiritual “help” once we die, not much we can do about that. Either you know him and accept him, or you don’t, it really is that simple.[/quote]

Are you sure?

Matthew 25:31-46

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Todd

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[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
The internet has to be the worst place for this type of discussion–if you can even call that. There are so many pseudo-experts; so many hypocritical and false statements made; NOTHING is solved, accomplished, or even meaningfully discussed. What a waist…
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Am I the only one who finds posts like these to be completely ironic?

Todd

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Each person either experiences God’s presence or not. If God has not shown himself to someone, either God thinks it is not yet time or considers that person beyond redemption.

I have had two ‘encounters’ with the Lord. Sure, these could be dismissed by someone with an ax to grind; there’s always an ‘alternative’ explanation.

But, I state now, in the presence of God and all of you, that there is a God, I’ve heard his voice and I have been in his presence. Take it as you will, insult my intelligence, whatever. I can only state the truth.

And may God bless each of you![/quote]

I think that’s awesome.

Todd

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[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
You guys should fight it out. Who ever wins is correct.
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That method did work for deciding the nature of christ contraversy, after all.

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[quote]toddjacobs13 wrote:
LBRTRN wrote:
The internet has to be the worst place for this type of discussion–if you can even call that. There are so many pseudo-experts; so many hypocritical and false statements made; NOTHING is solved, accomplished, or even meaningfully discussed. What a waist…

Am I the only one who finds posts like these to be completely ironic?

Todd[/quote]

What, exactly, is ironic about my post?

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[quote]LBRTRN wrote:
toddjacobs13 wrote:
LBRTRN wrote:
The internet has to be the worst place for this type of discussion–if you can even call that. There are so many pseudo-experts; so many hypocritical and false statements made; NOTHING is solved, accomplished, or even meaningfully discussed. What a waist…

Am I the only one who finds posts like these to be completely ironic?

Todd

What, exactly, is ironic about my post?

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Heh, well I do think its funny that you made a post about how nothing is accomplished or solved in these discusions, and it didn’t accomplish or solve or address anything in the thread…then said it was a waist. So you waisted time by posting it, and now I’m wasting time by posting about someone else posting about it. what a vicious cycle

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[quote]toddjacobs13 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Each person either experiences God’s presence or not. If God has not shown himself to someone, either God thinks it is not yet time or considers that person beyond redemption.

I have had two ‘encounters’ with the Lord. Sure, these could be dismissed by someone with an ax to grind; there’s always an ‘alternative’ explanation.

But, I state now, in the presence of God and all of you, that there is a God, I’ve heard his voice and I have been in his presence. Take it as you will, insult my intelligence, whatever. I can only state the truth.

And may God bless each of you!

I think that’s awesome.

Todd
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I think that’s awesome too. There sure are alot of lost souls on this thread and the mere sarcasm and ridicule of believers reveals their emptiness of spirit. I feel very sorry for them, really.

MB