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orion · May 19, 2006, 7:54pm

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
orion wrote:
There are people out there justifying and doing all kinds of crazy shit because their holy book says so.

What does it matter if their “holy book” told them to do it or if their talking dog told them to do it? It is still wrong. You want to impugn an entire belief systems because of a few idiots. I guess that would also mean that bodybuilders are all stupid because a few are? All Asians drive poorly because a few do? All black are on welfare because as few are?

The distinction is between those who actually believe and the rest who believes in a watered down version of whatholybookever, and are able to convince themselves that their branch of superstition is a gospel of peace…

Dude, your lack of knowledge about Christianity is pathetic. Bring up OT texts or references makes no sense. Here is a tip: THERE WERE NO CHRISTIANS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT, THEY WERE ALL JEWS! HELLO!

Here is another tip; Christians believe in Jesus Christ, hence the word “Christian”. Evidentially you are not the sharpest tool in the tool shed, so I will break it down for you; Christians follow Christ. That means they do what he did and believe like he believed. So when you can find a text in the Bible indicating that Jesus taught or advocated any kind of violence against our fellow man, you let me know.

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See,what does it matter that there holy book commands it?

Everything.

It is THE WORD OF THE LORD!!!

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU NOT GET ABOUT THIS?

IF ALLAH SAYS YOU DIE, YOU DIE!

Period.

Their Holy Book is as much an authority as yours.

They have more in common with you than with me, which is why I am trying to get answers fron you.

ZEB · May 19, 2006, 8:02pm

[quote]orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:

There is no distinction to be made between religious moderates or fundamentalists.

Um…that seems a bit extreme my friend. Please explain this to me if you don’t mind.

Thank you,

Zeb

My fundamental problem is that I more or less know what the Bible and the Qu?ran teaches.

Everyone that disagrees with the Bible has to die. If your children disagree with you, they have to die. Two different plants in one field, death.[/quote]

Please point out the passages, in the Christian Bible, that claim what you are stating. I will then take a very close look at them.

I thank you.

Zeb

orion · May 19, 2006, 8:18pm

[quote]ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:

There is no distinction to be made between religious moderates or fundamentalists.

Um…that seems a bit extreme my friend. Please explain this to me if you don’t mind.

Thank you,

Zeb

My fundamental problem is that I more or less know what the Bible and the Qu?ran teaches.

Everyone that disagrees with the Bible has to die. If your children disagree with you, they have to die. Two different plants in one field, death.

Please point out the passages, in the Christian Bible, that claim what you are stating. I will then take a very close look at them.

I thank you.

Zeb
[/quote]

I told you, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, combined with Jesus in JohnWhatever that every “jot and tittle” (?), of the then traditional rules, still count.

Jesus and the old testament, they are buddies.

Tell me how you ignore that.

The letters, instructing slaves to serve their master like they would serve their God, how do you ignore them?

How the fuck does that work in your mind?

It honestly looks like a real accomplishment.

I know,for sure, that I am unable to do this.

haney · May 19, 2006, 9:00pm

[quote]orion wrote:

I told you, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, combined with Jesus in JohnWhatever that every “jot and tittle” (?), of the then traditional rules, still count.
[/quote]

good point lets take one at a time and determine their purpose since context is everything.

Leviticus is cerimonial law.
Dueteronomy is a treaty between a king and his subjects or theocratic law.

Cerimonial law isn’t even practiced by modern Jews. Not having a temple will do that to you.

Dueteronomy is for a theocracy. Since Christians aren’t a nation like the hebrews were kind of rules that one out too.

[quote]
Jesus and the old testament, they are buddies. [/quote] And?

Well leviticus wasn’t practiced when the hebrews were in captivity, and it isn’t practiced now so that answers that.

and Dueteronomy wasn’t practiced in captivity either since they were no longer a theocracy. so there you go.

Some instructions were part of the culture, and there for apply only to that culture.

Jesus seems to refer to freeing people from captivity, Paul does the same. Since Paul wrote the part you are talking about I think you can clearly see that Paul didn’t advocate owning slaves, and neither did Jesus.

Simple I don’t judge an ancient people by my modern standards. Something that you are doing.

Not really we are able to seperate an ancient people with certain rules and culture from modern rules and culture.

No problem not everyone is a scientist, or a Michael Jordan.

So we don’t expect you to be able to take a society and seperate them from our current standards.

Jimmy_T · May 19, 2006, 9:32pm

[quote]FlyingEmuOfDoom wrote:
Steveo,

I haven’t been here in a couple months. Just wanted to tell you to remember - most of the non believers on this website WILL post because they love insulting and mocking Christians.

Most of the Christians on this website WON’T post because they don’t want to get into a rude, vulgar conversation with people who are simply going to use name calling and mocking as a tactic.

Just because you aren’t seeing many responses from other Christians or people who are interested in learning more, doesn’t mean that they are not reading this.

Remember, the majority of people believe in God, whether the people who don’t like it or not. The scoffers sit here all day long just waiting to say something rude, vulgar and witty to make themselves look better and smarter than everyone else. This is not real life, it’s the internet. These people would never say the rude things that they do on here in person, no matter how much they try and convince you that they would.

Keep it up man![/quote]

Well said!

steveo5801 · May 20, 2006, 12:08am

[quote]Stigg. wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:

OK – deep breath. Now, please explain your statements here by showing us all of the atrocities that true, Bible-believing, fundamental Christians have committed. I don’t mean “Christian pretenders,” but members of Fundamental Baptist churches. When was the last time you heard of a person from this type of congregation commit murder on innocent people? Rob banks? Blow up pizza parlours? Blow up busses? Blow up trains? Crash planes into buildings?

Its now gone from general Christians to fundamental baptist churches ? What next, blonde hair and blue eyes ? Its a shame you never did a tour in Northern Ireland or the Balkans to see first hand of what religion really means.

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More of a shame that you think that this is about “religion.” I could care less about “religion.”

This is about a “relationship with God” that is found ONLY through His Son, Jesus Christ.

It is a shame that you think that your experience in Northern Ireland – which must be awful – is what this is all about. It is not…

steveo5801 · May 20, 2006, 12:13am

[quote]orion wrote:
steveo5801 wrote:
orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
ephrem wrote:

…according to the fairytale, he never died. So where’s the sacrifice?

This is the type of lack of respect for another persons religion that Christians put up with daily!

Why does religion have to be respected?

Even if we don’t agree with must at least show respect.

For you Zeb, yes, for what you believe in, no…

I?m sorry, but that time is over…

There are people out there justifying and doing all kinds of crazy shit because their holy book says so.

There is no distinction to be made between religious moderates or fundamentalists.

The distinction is between those who actually believe and the rest who believes in a watered down version of whatholybookever, and are able to convince themselves that their branch of superstition is a gospel of peace…

Religious Christians and Muslims have to kill. Leviticus, Deuteronomy, all Gods own words.

OK – deep breath. Now, please explain your statements here by showing us all of the atrocities that true, Bible-believing, fundamental Christians have committed. I don’t mean “Christian pretenders,” but members of Fundamental Baptist churches. When was the last time you heard of a person from this type of congregation commit murder on innocent people? Rob banks? Blow up pizza parlours? Blow up busses? Blow up trains? Crash planes into buildings?

When???

Your clever attempt to EQUATE fundamental Muslims with fundamental Christians is a good debating tactic – [b] BUT IT AMOUNTS TO SQUAT!

Once again:

Muslims: Muslims send their sons to kill others for the sake of Allah.

Christians: God sent His Son to die Himself, for the sake of saving mankind from their sins.

180 degree difference, my friend – no two ways about it.[/b]

The rest, that simply ignore everything that does not fit into the fairy tale of their choice are actually non-believers.

If you can state things without evidence, I can dismiss them without evidence. See how quickly I can discard the Bible?

Sad, in a way…

What “evidence” are you looking for? Do you actually deny that Jesus existed, performed miracles, was crucified, and basically CHANGED THE ENTIRE WORLD. We even reckon time (the calendar) according to Him!

The greatest evidence is the existence of so many believers in Him – lives that have been radically changed by Him.

Look around you – “The heavens declare the glory of God, and the firmament showeth forth his handiwork. Day after day utterth speech…”

In other words, the Creation itself is evidence for God – the Bible, His Word is the final say.

You are right, there are few Cristians doing the same things as devoted muslims.

My point is, that Christians somehow managed to pervert (yes, TWIST), the Bible into a gospel of peace.

I have no idea how, given the book that they are obliged to work with, they
managed to do that.

The amount of cherry picking, selectively ignoring passages and highlighting others is mindboggling.

I am asking you, honestly, how do you manage to do that.

That kind of irrationality might be a vital resource.[/quote]

Good discussion Orion. I would like to have it.

What specific passages are you refering? Please give me several (more than 2 but less than 5) so I can manage to look them over and give you an honest reply.

I am asking for this, because I am unclear how anyone could read the Bible and think Christianity is anything except a Gospel of salvation, peace, and a wonderful abundant life.

Hope to continue this discussion after you have provided examples of what you mean.

steveo5801 · May 20, 2006, 12:27am

[quote]orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:
ZEB wrote:
orion wrote:

There is no distinction to be made between religious moderates or fundamentalists.

Um…that seems a bit extreme my friend. Please explain this to me if you don’t mind.

Thank you,

Zeb

My fundamental problem is that I more or less know what the Bible and the Qu?ran teaches.

Everyone that disagrees with the Bible has to die. If your children disagree with you, they have to die. Two different plants in one field, death.

Please point out the passages, in the Christian Bible, that claim what you are stating. I will then take a very close look at them.

I thank you.

Zeb

I told you, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, combined with Jesus in JohnWhatever that every “jot and tittle” (?), of the then traditional rules, still count.

Jesus and the old testament, they are buddies.

Tell me how you ignore that.

The letters, instructing slaves to serve their master like they would serve their God, how do you ignore them?

How the fuck does that work in your mind?

It honestly looks like a real accomplishment.

I know,for sure, that I am unable to do this.
[/quote]

Orion,

Sorry I should have looked down at the thread, I didn’t see that you did point out some passages.

I will give you the “overview reply” here, and if you have any follow up or wish to debate any of these points, I will respond in kind.

Your major premise seems to be “how can you claim that Christianity is a Gospel of peace when the Old Testament Scriptures, which Jesus referred often, contains passages that show violence, killing, etc?”

First of all – this is a GREAT QUESTION. It is a question that I would be asking if I were you also.

I will answer with a series of statements:

(1) The Holy Scriptures are divided into two Testaments – the O.T. (Hebrew Scriptures) and the New Testament (which had its beginning with the birth of Messiah Jesus).

(2) The Hebrew Scriptures were given by God to the nation of Israel (the Jewish people) and the portions that you refer to (The Law of Moses – the Torah) outlines the rules of society for a Jewish State under a Theocracy – with God as King.

(3) Therefore, as a Christian, although all the Bible is for us (1 Cor. 10 tells us that the O.T. Scriptures were given for "our learning and for an example that we should not lust after evil things.’ In other words, as someone has well said, Although the entire Bible is all for us, it is not all about us. .

(4) Christians follow the teachings of Christ – that is what “Christian” means. You cannot point out anything in Jesus’ teaching that shows anything but salvation, love and peace.

(5) What one should glean from the Torah and the other portions of the O.T. is that sin is the bane of mankind and a Holy God cannot be in the presence of sin. Sin has to be paid for with death. God is a Holy God who provides salvation for his people (see Psalm 51 for example).

We are not “getting around” anything. God doesn’t change insofar as His Divine Attributes are concerned, but He has changed the way He administers those divine perfections during different periods of human history.

After all – History = His Story.

Look forward to your relply…

ZEB · May 20, 2006, 8:05am

[quote]orion wrote:

I told you, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, combined with Jesus in JohnWhatever that every “jot and tittle” (?), of the then traditional rules, still count.

Jesus and the old testament, they are buddies.

Tell me how you ignore that.

The letters, instructing slaves to serve their master like they would serve their God, how do you ignore them?

How the fuck does that work in your mind?

It honestly looks like a real accomplishment.

I know,for sure, that I am unable to do this.
[/quote]

I asked you to “please point out the passages” as in book, and number, which make the claims that you say are there.

Please be specific.

I promise I will look closely at anything that you give me.

Once again, thanks for your patience,

Zeb

harris447 · May 20, 2006, 9:08am

[quote]ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
I don’t respect communists, flat-earters, or others who follow systems of thought that should be remitted to the dust-bin of history.

This “respect for each others’ beliefs” is a crock of shit.

And before you go whining about how the group who controls the country is being persecuted, ALL religious “thought” should be mocked, not just yours.

Very potentially explosive philosophy that you have there harris.

I wonder what sort of country we would have if we all participated in this idea of yours?

It might open up a very serious divide in this country given the fact that we are all pretty much separated on some level:

Religious, political, racial, economic, etc.

Tell me more about your philosophy. Do you advocate just ridicule and mocking what we don’t like? Or, do you want to take it to another level?

You’re a teacher right?

[/quote]

I am a teacher. Therefore, it is easy for me to point out the inherent flaw in your “reasoning.”

Race, money, politics, and religion are not equivalents; they cannot be compared.

Race and economic status are inherent fixations. If you don’t believe in race, then so what: people are still black, brown, white, etc. Close your eyes to money all you want, but some people still burn beans on the grill whil others live in a deluxe apartment in the sky.

Religion, however, is just a story people believe. None of it actually physically exists. Sure, the buildings the church/synagogue/mosque/temple reside in exist (tax-free for some totally unfathomable reason), but the religions themselves are just memeplexes.

So, then: your analogy is utter twaddle.

Mocking people who believe in magic is perfectly acceptable.

orion · May 20, 2006, 10:35am

[quote]haney wrote:
orion wrote:

I told you, Leviticus and Deuteronomy, combined with Jesus in JohnWhatever that every “jot and tittle” (?), of the then traditional rules, still count.

good point lets take one at a time and determine their purpose since context is everything.

Leviticus is cerimonial law.
Dueteronomy is a treaty between a king and his subjects or theocratic law.

Cerimonial law isn’t even practiced by modern Jews. Not having a temple will do that to you.

Dueteronomy is for a theocracy. Since Christians aren’t a nation like the hebrews were kind of rules that one out too.

Jesus and the old testament, they are buddies. And?

Tell me how you ignore that.

Well leviticus wasn’t practiced when the hebrews were in captivity, and it isn’t practiced now so that answers that.

and Dueteronomy wasn’t practiced in captivity either since they were no longer a theocracy. so there you go.

The letters, instructing slaves to serve their master like they would serve their God, how do you ignore them?

Some instructions were part of the culture, and there for apply only to that culture.

Jesus seems to refer to freeing people from captivity, Paul does the same. Since Paul wrote the part you are talking about I think you can clearly see that Paul didn’t advocate owning slaves, and neither did Jesus.

How the fuck does that work in your mind?

Simple I don’t judge an ancient people by my modern standards. Something that you are doing.

It honestly looks like a real accomplishment.

Not really we are able to seperate an ancient people with certain rules and culture from modern rules and culture.

I know,for sure, that I am unable to do this.

No problem not everyone is a scientist, or a Michael Jordan.

So we don’t expect you to be able to take a society and seperate them from our current standards.
[/quote]

Still not quite there.

You are no theocracy? Why not?

You have no temple? Build one!

Exactly because you live in and are part of modern society, you are no Christian.

The only difference between you and a “fundamental” muslim is that he does not dismiss his Lords commands as easily as you are able to.

If they can, they actually try to build that kind of society.

Afghanistan would be a good example.

A true believer does no argue along the lines “well, we no longer live in those dark ages”, he simply brings those ages back and kills everyone trying to stop him.

That is true, unflinching, faith.

You are actually a good example for what a true believer would despise.

orion · May 20, 2006, 10:48am

Zeb, Steveo,

Though it would be easier to just cut and paste from a website mocking the bible, I am going to read the whole thing which is ging to take me a few days.

steveo5801 · May 20, 2006, 1:22pm

[quote]orion wrote:
Zeb, Steveo,

Though it would be easier to just cut and paste from a website mocking the bible, I am going to read the whole thing which is ging to take me a few days.

[/quote]

That’s fair – and I appreciate it.

I will await your response…

haney · May 20, 2006, 2:35pm

[quote]orion wrote:
Still not quite there.

You are no theocracy? Why not?
[/quote]
because America is built on freedom of religion. I was born here, and last time I checked no country was willing to give us free land.

Many of the muslim countries are theocratic, and they have that option.

We can’t there is this dome of the rock thinggy on the place were we have to build it.

You are attributing the wrong thing to us.

No I am not fundamental in any sense. Zeb, and stevo would agree.
I don’t dismiss command Jesus gave.

Jesus didn’t try to build one, and the closest we got was Rome.

I am not arguing along those lines. I am answering the questions you asked.

[quote]
That is true, unflinching, faith.

You are actually a good example for what a true believer would despise. [/quote]

When have I not said I am considered a heretic?

Personally I don’t think you can speak for any true believer since stevo and zeb consider themselves one, and don’t seem to despise me.

You are projecting your opinion as fact when it isn’t.

ZEB · May 20, 2006, 2:52pm

[quote]harris447 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
I don’t respect communists, flat-earters, or others who follow systems of thought that should be remitted to the dust-bin of history.

This “respect for each others’ beliefs” is a crock of shit.

And before you go whining about how the group who controls the country is being persecuted, ALL religious “thought” should be mocked, not just yours.

Very potentially explosive philosophy that you have there harris.

I wonder what sort of country we would have if we all participated in this idea of yours?

It might open up a very serious divide in this country given the fact that we are all pretty much separated on some level:

Religious, political, racial, economic, etc.

Tell me more about your philosophy. Do you advocate just ridicule and mocking what we don’t like? Or, do you want to take it to another level?

You’re a teacher right?

I am a teacher. Therefore, it is easy for me to point out the inherent flaw in your “reasoning.”

Race, money, politics, and religion are not equivalents; they cannot be compared.

Race and economic status are inherent fixations. If you don’t believe in race, then so what: people are still black, brown, white, etc. Close your eyes to money all you want, but some people still burn beans on the grill whil others live in a deluxe apartment in the sky.

Religion, however, is just a story people believe. None of it actually physically exists. Sure, the buildings the church/synagogue/mosque/temple reside in exist (tax-free for some totally unfathomable reason), but the religions themselves are just memeplexes.

So, then: your analogy is utter twaddle.

Mocking people who believe in magic is perfectly acceptable. [/quote]

No actually what you are doing is exercising religious bigotry. And this is no better than if someone were to stand out on the street corner and call the next black man who walks past a nigger. It’s sick and disgusting!

And your claim that “economic status is an inherent fixation.” Is wrong minded (why am I not surprised).

Would you say that it would okay for Donald Trump to stand out on the street corner and make fun of a person because he is poor?

Now that person could presumably change his economic status, but…

No harris your brand of hate is really not as unique as you’d like people to think it is.

I’m just glad that the only place that you exercise this hatred is on the Internet. I know that if you pushed it too far in the school your at you would have a room full of ticked off parents. And then you’d be looking for work and couldn’t post your hatred each day in your down time as a teacher.

Actually trying to rationalize your hatred for christians…That’s even low for you. You need help my man.

orion · May 20, 2006, 7:06pm

[quote]haney wrote:
orion wrote:
Still not quite there.

You are no theocracy? Why not?

because America is built on freedom of religion. I was born here, and last time I checked no country was willing to give us free land.

Many of the muslim countries are theocratic, and they have that option.

You have no temple? Build one!

We can’t there is this dome of the rock thinggy on the place were we have to build it.

Exactly because you live in and are part of modern society, you are no Christian.

You are attributing the wrong thing to us.

The only difference between you and a “fundamental” muslim is that he does not dismiss his Lords commands as easily as you are able to.

No I am not fundamental in any sense. Zeb, and stevo would agree.
I don’t dismiss command Jesus gave.

If they can, they actually try to build that kind of society.

Jesus didn’t try to build one, and the closest we got was Rome.

Afghanistan would be a good example.

A true believer does no argue along the lines “well, we no longer live in those dark ages”, he simply brings those ages back and kills everyone trying to stop him.

I am not arguing along those lines. I am answering the questions you asked.

That is true, unflinching, faith.

You are actually a good example for what a true believer would despise.

When have I not said I am considered a heretic?

Personally I don’t think you can speak for any true believer since stevo and zeb consider themselves one, and don’t seem to despise me.

You are projecting your opinion as fact when it isn’t.
[/quote]

First of all,I do not consider Zeb and Steveo to be true believers either.

Then, the whole “America is no theocracy” and there is allready a temple there does not fly.

The US constitution was written by mere mortals. Compared with the THE HOLY BOOK what does it matter what the constitution says. Has your faith been so corrupted that a piece of paper stops you from building the kingdom of the Lord?

There allready is a building where you wish to build your temple? Tear it down and build your own.

If people oppose you, kill them and burn their false gods. That is how the Israelites did it the first time, obeying their Lords commands.

You keep saying that this or that trivial matter stands in your way.

Does faith not move mountains?

Is the all mighty not on your side?

Would it not be better to try and die in the attempt, than to give in to a secular society?

You know how some muslims answer that questions.

If in todays society the Lords commands cannot be lived fully, than that society is wrong and needs to be changed, doesn?t it?

I am trying to lay my finger on the precise point where true believers pick up their swords/guns and the rest starts making excuses.

KeepAwaySheeple · May 20, 2006, 7:27pm

[quote]Jimmy T wrote:
FlyingEmuOfDoom wrote:
Steveo,

I haven’t been here in a couple months. Just wanted to tell you to remember - most of the non believers on this website WILL post because they love insulting and mocking Christians.

Most of the Christians on this website WON’T post because they don’t want to get into a rude, vulgar conversation with people who are simply going to use name calling and mocking as a tactic.

Just because you aren’t seeing many responses from other Christians or people who are interested in learning more, doesn’t mean that they are not reading this.

Remember, the majority of people believe in God, whether the people who don’t like it or not. The scoffers sit here all day long just waiting to say something rude, vulgar and witty to make themselves look better and smarter than everyone else. This is not real life, it’s the internet. These people would never say the rude things that they do on here in person, no matter how much they try and convince you that they would.

Keep it up man!

Well said!
[/quote]

Thanks Jimmy T!

haney · May 20, 2006, 7:53pm

[quote]orion wrote:

First of all,I do not consider Zeb and Steveo to be true believers either.
[/quote]
Are you a true believer? If not then how can you tell me what one is?
according to you then there can’t be many. so how do you know how they would feel about me?

Well since Peter, and Paul didn’t advocate over throwing a government, and neither did Christ then I guess I shouldn’t either.

The holy book states clearly that you are to follow the leaders of your country.

but hey you keep telling me what the book really means I am sure you no more about it than I do…

Yes I am sure the outcry from the muslim’s wouldn’t matter at all.
Funny Christians believe Christ did a way with temple worship by destroying that temple in 70 AD. you knew that though since you are such a biblical scholar.

And you keep telling me exactly what things mean with out even trying to understand why they aren’t a problem for christians. You are by far the worst skeptic I have ever encountered when it comes to biblical matters.

sigh… I think you are about the only person in the world to not understand the meaning of that verse.

Hey while you cherry picking don’t forget the parts where the israelites didn’t fight the egyptians, or the babylonians to gain their freedom.

no because the apostles didn’t take up arms against the romans either. You are projecting what you want to be the case. SOmething that isn’t advocated by the NT.

[quote]
I am trying to lay my finger on the precise point where true believers pick up their swords/guns and the rest starts making excuses. [/quote]

you are trying make true believers fit your dogma of what you think they are.

I am trying to figure out what makes you any differant than any fundaliteralist.

vroom · May 20, 2006, 9:09pm

Holy Shit! This thread has seen a fucking resurrecton of it’s own. I think maybe it’s because it’s a Jesus thread.

See, I listened to these tards… if I don’t want to read it I don’t have to, but just like the devil, this thread keeps popping up and tempting me.

It’s a wicked thread. Damn it! Damn it to hell.

Anyhow, unless you are zealot there is plenty of room for interpretation in many areas of most religions. It is the room for interpretation and relaxation that allows religions to coexist peacefully with those of different beliefs.

Zealotry and unflinching “I have the right interpretation and all must adopt it” attitudes are the bane of the Earth.

Suck it up. Saying so does not make me an athiest you retarded idiot. I trust everybody knows that I’m talking to Steveo?

–

P.S. Zeb, you know full well that you and I have sparred with quoted passages and there are some that appear to have Jesus saying it is enough to live appropriately and love God… you don’t have to be a dork like Steveo proclaims, loudly and repeatedly, to everyone who might have been interested in Christianity until he opens his mouth.

harris447 · May 20, 2006, 9:35pm

[quote]ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
ZEB wrote:
harris447 wrote:
I don’t respect communists, flat-earters, or others who follow systems of thought that should be remitted to the dust-bin of history.