Portland's Inequality Tax

That’s what’s funny.

SOX, specifically SOX 302 has existed since 2002:

This was supposed to be the government’s solution yet it’s done relatively nothing except increase government bloat.

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Aaron Rodger’s gets a half of a million dollars to workout per year, a per game bonus of $37.5K, and like 3/4 million dollars per game, but muh CEO pay is too high…

base salary per day:

He throws a ball…

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It was never meant to be a living wage. People need jobs to gain skills. Employers need profits to stay in business, reinvest in new product lines, maintain current PLs, etc…

Employers can only pay non-skilled workers so much while remaining profitable. The higher the minimum wage goes the fewer people an employer can hire or keep unless they innovate/streamline processes (something ever company is already trying to do), create entirely new revenue streams (good luck), or increase prices.

It’s that simple.

I guess half the country was dead following the civil war (1861-1865) so there’s that…

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Completely missing the point, as usual.

What if they don’t deserve that salary, right now, but you think they will in the future if they put in the effort to learn what to do?

In your fairy tale world I should overpay them now, which reduces their incentive to improve and will cut into them reaching potential. Or I can just fire them, and hire someone worth the increased pay NOW, and leave that other kid out in the cold with no opportunity.

You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about here. Not only is this gibberish not represented in the real world, but you aren’t even using your leftist talking points correct.

If two people agree on a wage for work, and are both happy with that wage, it’s the exact definition of NOT being exploitation. You’re opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

No it doesn’t Marx. Welcome to the fucking real world. A job has to pay what the employer and employee agree is the wage. If either one doesn’t like it, then the job doesn’t happen.

Well, then does it mean your a racist piece of shit then? Because the empirical facts are everything you push destroys the lives of another generation of black folks because it prices them out of a job that otherwise would have taught them skills. Nice that “you’re not talking about it” so you and your white friends can be better off.

Yes, actually they can. No one is forced to work anywhere in America. Holy shit batman, this is insanely wrong… Good Lord.

You don’t know anything about what you’re talking about. You literally know nothing. Do you go to astrophysics discussions and tell PHD’s how they are wrong too?

lmao

And? So? Who cares?

Again, you have no fucking clue, but lets keep talking about what you don’t understand. It’s amazing.

The entirety of human history, and ever example of market dynamics proves you completely wrong.

You have the perspective of someone who doesn’t know WTF they are talking about. What you’ve “seen” is irrelevant. It means nothing, because you don’t know what you’re looking at.

It is the equivalent of someone who’s never tasted Pineapple telling me why it tastes bad, and I shouldn’t eat it. You. Don’t. Know. What. You’re. Talking. About.

You’re a fucking moron.

My education includes:

4 econ undergrad classes (2 core, 2 advanced), 3 grad level. It was on my exam, I need continuing ed credits in it, and also read it for a hobby.

You are projecting so fucking hard in the last part of this post, I’m sure you are having chest pains while typing.

Glad to see a Leaf admit it. No wonder you guys love the absolute pussy of a PM you have up there.

Jesus you’re dumb. You’d rather people make zero, than below your magic number.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

So now you’re dictating what people should be worth? I thought you weren’t talking about totalitarian regimes?

The work tends to be more difficult too. Only people with zero experience think managing people and getting good results with happy employees and low turnover is easy. Only people with no experience think doing that, while maintaining relationships with customers is easy, and only shitposters who don’t know what a CPA does or is, think balancing the triangle between customers, owners and employees is easy.

Not so good ones make more than that. Doctors (deservedly) make a fuck ton of money if they are halfway good at picking a path.

Walk into any urologists office in a poorer neighborhood, look at the dregs sitting in the waiting room, think about how he/she is going to fingerbang the butthole of all those dudes soon, and you can smell them form 15 feet away with their cloths on… And you think, just like I do, that Doctor is worth more than a million bucks, lol.

lmao. Being this dumb. Knowing this little about econ 101…

Yes, he’s that stupid.

Oh look, another 12 year old that just knows that the best interest of everyone else in the country is, even better than they do themselves.

lmao.

Should your salary be democratically decided? No.

Stop thinking you should have a say in what anyone makes other than yourself, and the people you negotiate with and pay from your own company.

Literally no one on “our side” thinks this. It is you commies that think this is possible.

You don’t even understand the fundamental understandings of those you’re trying to disparage, why should anyone listen to what you think people should make for a salary? Why should people assume you know what you’re talking about there if you don’t know what you’re talking about here?

being this dumb.

That would require him to know how to run a business, lol.

Your memory is astounding. Love it.

Well, technically, min wage was a racist policy put in place by racist democrats (but I repeat myself) in order to price blacks and immigrants out of “good white jobs” post depression, because too many whites were waiting in breadlines.

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Nooo shit. Or rather, very possibly lots of it!

Doctors deserve it for saving our sorry asses time and time again for years–often from ourselves (the stories I’ve heard from my ER doctor friend… )

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Who says that wasn’t the intention?

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Where’d the two commies go?

Was there a meeting of comrades today?

Their rationed internet time is up until next week, comrade

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Since the commies are in their safe places… @anon50325502 or @countingbeans If I was to receive a Christmas bonus and it got taxed greater than my normal salary, would I be better off splitting it into two separate checks?

– Asking for a friend.

The SS & Medicare will be the same either way, and the Fed and State withholdings will depend on how they calc, total for the year, or projected per paycheck.

Can you do a static amount for the one bonus check or is your HR department a bunch of pussies?

It’s a business my dad and I started. I’m HR so, no, I’m not a pussy.

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You’re CPA hasn’t called you to go over tax planning yet?

Ugh.

Personally, I would withhold nothing (assuming I meet exception one or withholding requirements to not have penalties) and just pay with my return in April.

Other than that, I’d have to know what your numbers look like to recommend a percentage to withhold, and what you want your return to look like.

You guys use ADP or PAYCHEX or someone like that?

Nope, I think that’s what people like you are doing by always extrapolating topics like an inequality tax or the minimum wage to the URSS or CUBA. It isn’t even close.

Or you could just find someone that you can pay even less that will do a fine job too. It’s easy to say someone isn’t worth your money when you are the one who choose.
There is no such thing as a reaching potential in a dead end job.

A bunch of people everywhere agree to do a job but the pay doesn’t support them. How could they be happy?
I guess they must really have the choice.

I take in what you are trying to say that the black people have less education.

Not true you are going to hire someone with an education instead of someone not having it for a floor sweeping job. You are going to hire the most servile individual.

Yeah of course all my white friends in their minimum wage jobs are doing great pricing out those black people.

It’s a racist scheme.

Of course no is forced. You can’t just walk away if you have no other choice. You have this idea that everyone can do anything at anytime.

Isn’t that what people like you like to do with climate scientists? Of course when it’s your republican economics religion

You should.

Just as you say someone deserves to be paid 1000x the salary of someone else now, I guess if we were in ancient egypt you would tell me that the Pharaoh is really from God.
It’s not true. Some people have great talents, but it’s not necessarily the CEO’s, the people who make the most or the people who already own the most. Market dynamics are rigged if someone already has all the levers.

That’s not projection that’s forum history.
I completed tons of classes and I really don’t give a shit about talking about it.

Haha
Those tax codes must really be enlightening.
Oh yeah those 4 courses and readings too.

No, I would rather have the wealth better redistributed.

I don’t.

They are not but still that’s what they are taking.
There is not always people higher up to negotiate with for the great market magic to happen.

The greatest innovations and ideas in history have came from people who were passionate about something.
I guess the millionnaires wanting to become billionnaires has done the world a lot of good.

Doesn’t make sense.

If there was a great demand but a low supply of jobs you could hire the most educated person first (which I guess would be white in your construction), minimum wage or not.
If you were a white racist you would hire your white friends first for your floor sweeping job in any case.

I wasn’t aware of the history of the minimum wage, or at least your take on it, but it would seem like the minimum wage would have been instaurated at this time to prevent the people who could give work to take advantage of the masses who wanted to work. The kind of dynamic that if you don’t want to work for 1 cent a day, I’ll take one of the guys in that crowd in front of the store for 1 cent every two day.

Some other strong republican logic at work here. You should stick with calling people names, that seems to be a bigger strength in you.

Sorry about the delayed answer,

On your part with all your 70 hours a week I must tell you I am very thankful for you to be taking the time to answer me.

I haven’t worked 70 hours a week since I worked for the government…

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A lot of “facts” you’re throwing out there without proof.(LOL at teens working harder now a days than 50-80’s) Someone’s got a case of the feels.

The real fact of the matter is, don’t leave your life up to the government. Put your life in your own hands. Nobody starts a business and thinks to themselves, “Hey, I think I’m going to risk my money, put in ridiculous hours and work extremely hard and make something of myself just so I can support the families of those who work for me, regardless of their life choices!” Nobody owes you shit. Don’t like making 8 bucks an hour for flippin burgers? I wouldn’t either. That’s why I paid my way through college. College too expensive? Go to a trade school and learn practical skills. Hell, just be the best damn burger flipper, cart pusher, bag boy or whatever you can be and I guarantee you, you will get paid more.

Take the total salary of Walmart’s CEO and reduce that number to, not in half, not quarter but $0 cuz fuck him, right… With all that salary you just took, divide it among every Walmart employee and tell me how much everyone gets. Let me know if that helps the low wages they are apparently getting and that CEO salaries are the problem…

What are you even trying to say?? That doesn’t address my point in the slightest. Some people work harder than others to better their position in a company. That is an indisputable fact. If you won’t get paid much more(if at all) than minimum wage, what’s the incentive to go the extra mile in your job? Other wages will have to go up too and to compensate for that income loss, companies will either raise prices on consumers, let employees go/cut hours or investors will pony up that money. What happens will depend on the marketplace but I can assure you, they won’t just cut their losses…

And more government will fix everything?? Won’t that invite more corruption?

The idea of limited government isn’t to “fix everything.” It’s about individual freedom and limiting government intervention in people’s lives. FREEEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOM

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Yeah, that’s exactly the fucking point!

If I am the founder and starter of a business it’s my money to allocate, my debt, and my investment. And I have a limited amount of it for operating purposes in order to stay afloat and grow the business. Therefore if I reach an agreement with someone to work for me I expect them to be worth the money. If they are not–in my estimation and mine only–then they are let go. They could be the nicest person in the world and someone I want to get a beer with, but if they are not performing the job asked of them adequately–according to me, not them–then they go. Because it’s my fucking money that I am wasting.

Not even remotely true. I’m going to hire the first person that interviews for the job and that I think will show up on time and do the job without flaking out. Their personality is absolutely irrelevant unless I believe them to be a danger to others or to have a felonious background.

That was me. And I also said that I wasn’t currently working 70 hours a week.

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Ex-fucking-actly.

I also have a mate of mine that started out as a burger flipper. He was a screw up in high school–dealt pot, etc–and got popped for it and spent a year in jail. He got out, and to make ends meet he took the fast food route. He worked his ass off, proved his worth, and was promoted to salaried manager for the store. He now has a couple stores and makes a decent living without any college degree and only the stubbornness to work hard, show up on time, and do damn good work.

He’s also got out of debt, has a savings account, house, retirement fund. He’s completely financially independent.

He had a lot of growing up to do, but he’s clean grown-up and doing well. The only thing he had to do was use his willpower, pay attention, and show up to work and learn.

I’m not going to suggest that there are no people out there working themselves to death to try to make ends meet–I’ve been there personally, I have a lot of friends who have been there in the past, and I know that in a country of 360 million souls there simply isn’t a perfect solution. It sucks, but that’s the truth.

The thing is, as Mike Rowe is fond of saying, there are a LOT of jobs out there that can sustain you if you want to work hard.

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