I always wonder about the motives of people like this. On the surface, this seems reasonable, right? Basic roads, safety, education. Sure.
But as you keep listening, she’s not going to be happy until there’s some kind of income equality, much like he Portlandia geniuses who came up with this tax idea. You wonder how much of a “big chunk” is enough, and who will decide? Maybe Elizabeth Warren will decide how much money is too much. Will it be enough when Elizabeth Warren’s salary is equal to yours? When everybody is making $60,000/ year? Honestly, I don’t think it’s really about fixing poverty. And just who is the “we” who’ve been paying for all these essential things? Not to mention, let’s be honest about where the money is going. It’s not going to roads in ultra-blue CA. We’re a state with social spending and the roads maintenance of a third world country.
I get the sense that people like this sit around thinking “you really don’t NEED all that money, nobody needs a Ferrari or a beach house,” as if the wealth of others somehow creates poverty. Like there’s a very limited amount of success to spread around. This is why I don’t have a 250 lb DL, because Alpha has a 700 lb one.
No, me and people like me actually believe in freedom. We don’t claim limited government fixes everything. We believe the individual is better off when in control of their own life, liberty, and property. A market economy with free trade is historically proven to be the best system.
The market is accountability. Before I comment further, can you describe these “highly illegal” banking practices. I’m almost certain that government is intertwined with this story as with most evil banker stories.
If a company is doing something that a consumer doesn’t like, they don’t have to do business with that company. Enough people make that choice and the business has to make a change or lose money.
Otherwise if you are referring to actual theft from within the company, yes we have laws against that.
That whole statement is predicated on the idea that a person capable of erecting a factory did not pay into the same system that everybody who did not erect one paid into.
It represents a paradigm shift from job creators being a pillar of a community to becoming a burden. Really, a very hostile statement.
Yes, thanks. It’s as if the “we” who have been paying for all of these services that make the business work are not the businesses and business owners. I wonder who she thinks supports the universities that educate these workers. It’s part of the business is evil thing, but I also see envy and a desire to take down the successful person. I keep thinking about that other thread in GAL, Negative Self-image: Isn’t it Scary?. That made me think of some of these socialist ideas when Jewbacca said that envy is at the root of much of this kind of thing. I think he’s spot on.
That is exactly what they think, unfortunately. Often times they aren’t forthright about it and instead couch it in terms of ‘fairness’–possibly becuase they aren’t really aware of it themselves, or possibly becauase they know it wouldnt play well if they were out on the truth.
It’s disgraceful, as that notion of a zero sum game hasn’t been tenable for over a century. It died with mercantilism.
Yes, you’re missing the point. Because the point is: central planning doesn’t stop the market from doing what the market is going to do. And all those failed states that central plan, the USSR & Cuba for example, are good examples of this fact. That I’m using them to point out the market always wins is the point, you’re ignoring that.
Just because min wage or stupid taxes like this aren’t full blown Lenin doesn’t make the point that central planning doesn’t work not true.
Why yes, it is. If I want to hire someone to do XY&Z, but their skill set only allows them to complete X& half of Z right now, I have no choice but to pay them less, they aren’t worth anything else, when I can hire someone that can do all three.
So I hire the kid that can only do X&half of Z for less, train him, allow him to learnt the rest of Z, and Y too, and then, I’ll pay him more as his skills grow.
Then if the kid is good, I’ll give him a promotion and another raise, so on and so forth until the kid has grown with the company and become management.
Being this dumb. First off, yes there is, lol. Second, there is no such thing as a dead end job, just dead end people.
A job is either a spring board to another, better job, a place holder until they can find a different job or the person isn’t trying.
My first job was washing windows for $4 an hour at 14 years old… I didn’t even see that as a dead end job. Just a start.
It’s not my job to make people happy. If they weren’t happy they wouldn’t have taken the job.
And yes, you always have a choice to make.
lol, you’ve never ran a business, wtf do you know?
I have people with two and three comas in their bank accounts asking me advice, and my advice to them would be: “If you have to pay them $15 an hour, hire the most qualified and educated person you can that is applying and have them do things beyond just sweeping the floor.”
At least you admit it. [quote=“jasmincar, post:215, topic:224248”]
You have this idea that everyone can do anything at anytime.
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Because they can…
People like me? So I now speak for others? No.
I speak for myself, that’s it. Try and keep up.
Why should I care about income inequality? Why?
I’m not an envious little racist. I don’t care if someone has more than me.
This is the dumbest argument in this post. No, but I would say that a lot of people sure seem to believe the Pharaoh is god… Which means the market is going to treat him like one… And I can’t stop that from happening.
The left seems to have this really big problem with reality. They seem to think they can ignore it, and go against nature, and still have things work out.
If the reality is that 80% of people think the ruler is God, then the market will reflect that. That is reality. So you either understand reality and work your best within it, or stomp your feet like a petulant child and pretend the world is the way you want it to be, and fail while doing so.
Agreed. Not every CEO is good at the job. Those tend to get shitcanned. [quote=“jasmincar, post:215, topic:224248”]
Market dynamics are rigged if someone already has all the levers.
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No one has all the levers dipshit. That is what I’m trying to tell you this entire time. The pie isn’t fixed, it can’t be by definition. We live in a fractional banking society with fiat money. The pie CAN’T be fixed.
Ummm. you’re the ignoramus that tried to say my education and work experience didn’t include econ, dumbass. It does, you’re wrong. I pointed that out.
Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know what I do on a day to day basis. You have some preconceived notion about what it is I do, and seem to falsely believe it’s pure tax. It isn’t.
Yes, we know your a pinko commie. This is obvious.
Yes there is lol.
Jesus, have you ever even had a job?
Zimbabwe called, they said you don’t understand econ 101, and would appreciate it if you looked up “money supply” in the text.
Yes. Who the fuck do you think funds all the research that leads to tech advances? Who do you think pays all the taxes?
Obviously. Otherwise you’d know that black unemployment spikes every time it’s raised.
You’re talking to a commie. This isn’t going to register to them, at all, ever. They don’t believe in freedom.
One of my clients owns a couple dozen fast food stores. His “right hand man” is a felon that started out deep frying chicken nuggets lol. Now? He is regularly getting 50k bonuses a year and makes well over 6 figures before bonus.
It’s not. It’s about envy and control. [quote=“anon71262119, post:221, topic:224248”]
It’s not going to roads in ultra-blue CA. We’re a state with social spending and the roads maintenance of a third world country.
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Roads are mostly funded through gas taxes and muni bonds, not direct taxation. That argument form the left is moronic.
One other issue with people like this talking about equality is even if their salary was equal to yours they have other sources of income. Look up her net worth
It’s not that the wealth of others create poverty. There is a finite amount of work done and material in the world. If someone has a very big chunk of it, there is less for others.
Even if I wish it would be it’s not possible for everyone to have a skyscraper because there wouldn’t be enough people to build them all. It’s not about being envious of others.
I can’t figure out why people can’t understand the difference between wealth creation and wealth redistribution. Elizabeth Warren and her kind are always about “tax the rich more, raise wages for lower paid workers, and lets create more public sector jobs.” How do people mistake this for an economic plan?
No. I can’t say it enough. No. As a society, WE HAVE ALL GOTTEN RICHER. It’s possible for everyone to rise. My wealth does not make you poor. If anything, it creates more wealth.
This is the case when some people can and others can’t. You are going to get a lot of people who can at anytime. When you have a small amount of people who own the most and get to choose in their best interest from a large pool of people who can, they are in position to push the group down to push themselves further up. That is why the gap is ever increasing.
Everyone shows up and do the job or they get fired. It’s better to find someone you can pay less and who will take more shit.
You would have to find the amount of wealth per human and transfer the amount of $ into tangible material wealth. Then you would have to look at the distribution of the material.
Production technologies, etc has increased the amount of material per humans but it’s still finite at any time.
If someone has a very big chunk of it at any time, there is still less for others.
