[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
Up to 1.7 times a week and you’re gtg, bro.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
After seeing this thread I decided to see what would happen if I stopped watching it completely. So it’s been almost 2 months without any, and I have to admit I did notice a difference. May be something to consider even if you aren’t having any problems in bed, cuz you could always be better lol.[/quote]
What kind of differences? Getting turned on by a gentle breeze? [/quote]
Yea sorta. Getting hard faster and easier. Also even getting random erections sometimes like when I was in fucking high school lol. Feels fuller too actually. I also noticed it stays hard for longer after I bust. No idea what that’s good for, but I noticed it. So yea. Nothing life changing given that i wasnt struggling with ED or some of the symptoms that the really addicted guys have, but it does seem to improve your ability to really lay some pipe in my experience even if your porn intake was relatively modest.
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
More time would be spent waiting for someone to give you the answer than if you simply read the extra thirteen pages. In the process, you may even come up with an intelligent question to further discussion or point to contribute to the conversation.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
After seeing this thread I decided to see what would happen if I stopped watching it completely. So it’s been almost 2 months without any, and I have to admit I did notice a difference. May be something to consider even if you aren’t having any problems in bed, cuz you could always be better lol.[/quote]
What kind of differences? Getting turned on by a gentle breeze? [/quote]
Yea sorta. Getting hard faster and easier. Also even getting random erections sometimes like when I was in fucking high school lol. Feels fuller too actually. I also noticed it stays hard for longer after I bust. No idea what that’s good for, but I noticed it. So yea. Nothing life changing given that i wasnt struggling with ED or some of the symptoms that the really addicted guys have, but it does seem to improve your ability to really lay some pipe in my experience even if your porn intake was relatively modest.[/quote]
Interesting. Do you feel more “animalistic” throughout the day and in the gym? I know sex/masturbation can affect your T-levels, although I’m not sure how significant that is.
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Interesting. Do you feel more “animalistic” throughout the day and in the gym? I know sex/masturbation can affect your T-levels, although I’m not sure how significant that is. [/quote]
I don’t know about correlating that. I will say though that I am a believer in attitude affecting your hormone levels. If you make an effort to build within yourself positivity, confidence, aggression, and assertiveness I feel like there are biological and physical manifestations of those attitudes/feelings which I think does translate to more brutality in the gym. Being good in bed can certainly help with those sort of positive outlooks lol.
You just don’t want to be one of those guys who channels aggression or assertiveness inappropriately of course.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Interesting. Do you feel more “animalistic” throughout the day and in the gym? I know sex/masturbation can affect your T-levels, although I’m not sure how significant that is. [/quote]
I don’t know about correlating that. I will say though that I am a believer in attitude affecting your hormone levels. If you make an effort to build within yourself positivity, confidence, aggression, and assertiveness I feel like there are biological and physical manifestations of those attitudes/feelings which I think does translate to more brutality in the gym. Being good in bed can certainly help with those sort of positive outlooks lol.
You just don’t want to be one of those guys who channels aggression or assertiveness inappropriately of course.[/quote]
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY BRO?!
I mean…
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
Up to 1.7 times a week and you’re gtg, bro. [/quote]
What if I don’t use the full banana?
In any event, I have decided to start this. I quit smoking almost 2 years ago now and it’s time to tie one more bad habit to the tree and smash it with the shovel. For a brief background if any of you motherfuckers care, at one point I definitely had a problem. Iv’e ruined good relationships because of it, and it consumed my life for the better part of 5-6 years. Hey you don’t become semi famous on a website for starting the “ass worship thread” unless you know where to find about a thousand really good looking asses on the internet.
I am a smart person and always thought, hey, it’s just between me and the monitor, no one else’s business, but deep down I knew something wasn’t right about what I was doing. To be honest, giving up T-Nation has helped me turn it from a problem, into a reasonable bad habit, but I don’t like allowing myself to have flaws, I know I will always have them, but I will try to correct any I have within my power to change. The Video and the articles at the links posted have given me the reinforcement I needed, it adds up. Time to re-train my brain and gain further control of my mental faculties. No more getting distracted easily because something new might be on the internet. I might even limit myself to a specific block of time per day to use the internet for a while, so I can re-wire my brain to not want it so much.
Either way, Today is day 1 post porn.
As a side note, I’d take shrooms over weed any day of the week, well actually I wouldn’t take either on a weekday, but would take shrooms over weed on the weekends.
V
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
After seeing this thread I decided to see what would happen if I stopped watching it completely. So it’s been almost 2 months without any, and I have to admit I did notice a difference. May be something to consider even if you aren’t having any problems in bed, cuz you could always be better lol.[/quote]
What kind of differences? Getting turned on by a gentle breeze? [/quote]
Yea sorta. Getting hard faster and easier. Also even getting random erections sometimes like when I was in fucking high school lol. Feels fuller too actually. I also noticed it stays hard for longer after I bust. No idea what that’s good for, but I noticed it. So yea. Nothing life changing given that i wasnt struggling with ED or some of the symptoms that the really addicted guys have, but it does seem to improve your ability to really lay some pipe in my experience even if your porn intake was relatively modest.[/quote]
When I was younger I went through a period where I abstained from porn, and even sex for a time, and I remember those random erections. They passed. At least for me, what they were replaced by were more ‘genuine’ erections, where if I was turned on it was by a specific person and not just the idea of having sex. My sexual responses were more focused and I learned what physical and other characteristics I truly liked.
You know when you go to a bar and you’re talking to a pretty girl though something about her is annoying, but you’re still turned on because you can see (or know you can direct) the evening ending up with you two fucking? If what happened to me happens to you, don’t be surprised if you find yourself giving those situations a pass. lol
Another thing I remember was when I did masturbate the images that came to mind were typically of previous sexual encounters. The mind is able to recall things in amazing detail for all the senses, and it also has the ability to create the same, but at the time one was more concrete than the other. Where I did use visualizations of what-ifs were of actions or situations to be done. Like visualizing my performance at the gym, having a successful presentation while practicing a speech, or seeing the completion of the stages of a project. Those exercises in visualization were more satisfying than a fantasy because they had a higher likelihood of being fulfilled.
Earlier in the thread it has been mentioned those who watch a lot of porn will sometimes think of porn while they’re with a person. What have been your experiences in this area? Have you noticed being more present when having sex?
[quote]fncj wrote:
Another thing I remember was when I did masturbate the images that came to mind were typically of previous sexual encounters. The mind is able to recall things in amazing detail for all the senses, and it also has the ability to create the same, but at the time one was more concrete than the other. Where I did use visualizations of what-ifs were of actions or situations to be done. Like visualizing my performance at the gym, having a successful presentation while practicing a speech, or seeing the completion of the stages of a project. Those exercises in visualization were more satisfying than a fantasy because they had a higher likelihood of being fulfilled.
Earlier in the thread it has been mentioned those who watch a lot of porn will sometimes think of porn while they’re with a person. What have been your experiences in this area? Have you noticed being more present when having sex?[/quote]
This has been my experience as well. Remarkably the same.
I can relate to the topic a lot.
Some background : I grew up with the internet. My first e-mail was when I was 12 years old, something like 15 years ago, iirc. Of course I quickly became attracted to erotic pictures then porn pics.
From 17 to 21, I had two addictions : porn and weed. Back then, I spent all my evenings hanging with friends or at parties (mostly with male friends, not a lot of girls in the neighborhood) getting wasted on weed and booze, listening to music. At first it was full of fun, I had friends, good ones, and fun, and lot of memories.
Then I discovered that weed + porn was an extremely pleasant compilation. I was able to fap longer and to reach ultra strong orgasms, so I started to watch porn every evening after the parties, before sleeping. This quickly became an addiction.
The porn addiction was not new. I liked to watch porn etc from a younger age without thinking about the possible social damage, but mixing it with weed was a devastating combo.
Now I can say that with that porn habit, I lost interest with social interactions. I also had less sex drive for girls and was faaaar less able to spend my time / energy into seducing girls and getting them to bed, at an age when it should have been a sport.
At the age of 21, I started to have physical issues directly linked to masturbation / porn. That changed everything.
I got shoulder pain, and some kind of lower back / butt region pain. Went to a lot of exams, and after a while I discovered that excessive masturbation damaged some muscles in the perineum region. It affected my sports playing (I was playing basketball at regional level in my country).
I decided to stop totally porn, weed, and to get some weeks off masturbation then masturbate only with my mind, etc…
I moved away from my friends, and started some introspection. I was so out of shape despite playing ball… I had bad skin, less muscle mass than ever, I was always tired… I remember being unable to sleep, being super stressed, anxious…
After a couple months, I got a girlfriend. My sex drive for her was crazy but speaking of sex, I remember having nearly no fantasies, nothing fancy, I just wanted to have sex, and I discovered that most people have secret fantasies, dreams, etc… this was not my case.
Then after some months I started to watch porn again, while being with her, and I can remember being “absent” when having sex, sometimes thinking of porn, sometimes even fantasizing about the sex we have as porn (like it was a video… how I would describe it etc)…
What I can say about porn :
Even today, my sex drive is lower than ever. I have hard time having a hard on from “nothing”. even without porn, and at 27… THis is starting to scare me.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
Up to 1.7 times a week and you’re gtg, bro. [/quote]
What if I don’t use the full banana?
In any event, I have decided to start this. I quit smoking almost 2 years ago now and it’s time to tie one more bad habit to the tree and smash it with the shovel. For a brief background if any of you motherfuckers care, at one point I definitely had a problem. Iv’e ruined good relationships because of it, and it consumed my life for the better part of 5-6 years. Hey you don’t become semi famous on a website for starting the “ass worship thread” unless you know where to find about a thousand really good looking asses on the internet.
I am a smart person and always thought, hey, it’s just between me and the monitor, no one else’s business, but deep down I knew something wasn’t right about what I was doing. To be honest, giving up T-Nation has helped me turn it from a problem, into a reasonable bad habit, but I don’t like allowing myself to have flaws, I know I will always have them, but I will try to correct any I have within my power to change. The Video and the articles at the links posted have given me the reinforcement I needed, it adds up. Time to re-train my brain and gain further control of my mental faculties. No more getting distracted easily because something new might be on the internet. I might even limit myself to a specific block of time per day to use the internet for a while, so I can re-wire my brain to not want it so much.
Either way, Today is day 1 post porn.
As a side note, I’d take shrooms over weed any day of the week, well actually I wouldn’t take either on a weekday, but would take shrooms over weed on the weekends.
V
[/quote]
Good for you, V. Good luck. You show a lot of character and even more class to come here with your heart on your sleeve like this, particularly considering your “rep.” My respect for you just went up even higher than it already was, and it was already pretty high.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
Up to 1.7 times a week and you’re gtg, bro. [/quote]
What if I don’t use the full banana?
In any event, I have decided to start this. I quit smoking almost 2 years ago now and it’s time to tie one more bad habit to the tree and smash it with the shovel. For a brief background if any of you motherfuckers care, at one point I definitely had a problem. Iv’e ruined good relationships because of it, and it consumed my life for the better part of 5-6 years. Hey you don’t become semi famous on a website for starting the “ass worship thread” unless you know where to find about a thousand really good looking asses on the internet.
I am a smart person and always thought, hey, it’s just between me and the monitor, no one else’s business, but deep down I knew something wasn’t right about what I was doing. To be honest, giving up T-Nation has helped me turn it from a problem, into a reasonable bad habit, but I don’t like allowing myself to have flaws, I know I will always have them, but I will try to correct any I have within my power to change. The Video and the articles at the links posted have given me the reinforcement I needed, it adds up. Time to re-train my brain and gain further control of my mental faculties. No more getting distracted easily because something new might be on the internet. I might even limit myself to a specific block of time per day to use the internet for a while, so I can re-wire my brain to not want it so much.
Either way, Today is day 1 post porn.
As a side note, I’d take shrooms over weed any day of the week, well actually I wouldn’t take either on a weekday, but would take shrooms over weed on the weekends.
V
[/quote]
Good for you, V. Good luck. You show a lot of character and even more class to come here with your heart on your sleeve like this, particularly considering your “rep.” My respect for you just went up even higher than it already was, and it was already pretty high.
[/quote]
Thanks Man, Nobody learns anything if we keep things hidden and buried. Especially oneself.
V
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Cortes wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
[quote]aeyogi wrote:
[quote]buildsomemuscle wrote:
so in any amount of porn bad? would it be ok once a week for example? [/quote]
This was discussed at length in the thread. I suggest you read the thread if you are really interested, and see if you still have questions afterwards.[/quote]
17 pages man, i read the first four or five but common man[/quote]
Up to 1.7 times a week and you’re gtg, bro. [/quote]
What if I don’t use the full banana?
In any event, I have decided to start this. I quit smoking almost 2 years ago now and it’s time to tie one more bad habit to the tree and smash it with the shovel. For a brief background if any of you motherfuckers care, at one point I definitely had a problem. Iv’e ruined good relationships because of it, and it consumed my life for the better part of 5-6 years. Hey you don’t become semi famous on a website for starting the “ass worship thread” unless you know where to find about a thousand really good looking asses on the internet.
I am a smart person and always thought, hey, it’s just between me and the monitor, no one else’s business, but deep down I knew something wasn’t right about what I was doing. To be honest, giving up T-Nation has helped me turn it from a problem, into a reasonable bad habit, but I don’t like allowing myself to have flaws, I know I will always have them, but I will try to correct any I have within my power to change. The Video and the articles at the links posted have given me the reinforcement I needed, it adds up. Time to re-train my brain and gain further control of my mental faculties. No more getting distracted easily because something new might be on the internet. I might even limit myself to a specific block of time per day to use the internet for a while, so I can re-wire my brain to not want it so much.
Either way, Today is day 1 post porn.
As a side note, I’d take shrooms over weed any day of the week, well actually I wouldn’t take either on a weekday, but would take shrooms over weed on the weekends.
V
[/quote]
Good for you, V. Good luck. You show a lot of character and even more class to come here with your heart on your sleeve like this, particularly considering your “rep.” My respect for you just went up even higher than it already was, and it was already pretty high.
[/quote]
Ditto, probably the most upfront and genuine post I have seen by anyone on this thread so far… Kuddos man for showing actual full human expression.
[quote]fncj wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
After seeing this thread I decided to see what would happen if I stopped watching it completely. So it’s been almost 2 months without any, and I have to admit I did notice a difference. May be something to consider even if you aren’t having any problems in bed, cuz you could always be better lol.[/quote]
What kind of differences? Getting turned on by a gentle breeze? [/quote]
Yea sorta. Getting hard faster and easier. Also even getting random erections sometimes like when I was in fucking high school lol. Feels fuller too actually. I also noticed it stays hard for longer after I bust. No idea what that’s good for, but I noticed it. So yea. Nothing life changing given that i wasnt struggling with ED or some of the symptoms that the really addicted guys have, but it does seem to improve your ability to really lay some pipe in my experience even if your porn intake was relatively modest.[/quote]
When I was younger I went through a period where I abstained from porn, and even sex for a time, and I remember those random erections. They passed. At least for me, what they were replaced by were more ‘genuine’ erections, where if I was turned on it was by a specific person and not just the idea of having sex. My sexual responses were more focused and I learned what physical and other characteristics I truly liked.
You know when you go to a bar and you’re talking to a pretty girl though something about her is annoying, but you’re still turned on because you can see (or know you can direct) the evening ending up with you two fucking? If what happened to me happens to you, don’t be surprised if you find yourself giving those situations a pass. lol
Another thing I remember was when I did masturbate the images that came to mind were typically of previous sexual encounters. The mind is able to recall things in amazing detail for all the senses, and it also has the ability to create the same, but at the time one was more concrete than the other. Where I did use visualizations of what-ifs were of actions or situations to be done. Like visualizing my performance at the gym, having a successful presentation while practicing a speech, or seeing the completion of the stages of a project. Those exercises in visualization were more satisfying than a fantasy because they had a higher likelihood of being fulfilled.
Earlier in the thread it has been mentioned those who watch a lot of porn will sometimes think of porn while they’re with a person. What have been your experiences in this area? Have you noticed being more present when having sex?[/quote]
Great post.!
I can’t believe this post is still up. I made a video on my channel not so long ago and introduced my subscribers to the TED video:
[quote]Biskui wrote:
I can relate to the topic a lot.
Some background : I grew up with the internet. My first e-mail was when I was 12 years old, something like 15 years ago, iirc. Of course I quickly became attracted to erotic pictures then porn pics.
From 17 to 21, I had two addictions : porn and weed. Back then, I spent all my evenings hanging with friends or at parties (mostly with male friends, not a lot of girls in the neighborhood) getting wasted on weed and booze, listening to music. At first it was full of fun, I had friends, good ones, and fun, and lot of memories.
Then I discovered that weed + porn was an extremely pleasant compilation. I was able to fap longer and to reach ultra strong orgasms, so I started to watch porn every evening after the parties, before sleeping. This quickly became an addiction.
The porn addiction was not new. I liked to watch porn etc from a younger age without thinking about the possible social damage, but mixing it with weed was a devastating combo.
Now I can say that with that porn habit, I lost interest with social interactions. I also had less sex drive for girls and was faaaar less able to spend my time / energy into seducing girls and getting them to bed, at an age when it should have been a sport.
At the age of 21, I started to have physical issues directly linked to masturbation / porn. That changed everything.
I got shoulder pain, and some kind of lower back / butt region pain. Went to a lot of exams, and after a while I discovered that excessive masturbation damaged some muscles in the perineum region. It affected my sports playing (I was playing basketball at regional level in my country).
I decided to stop totally porn, weed, and to get some weeks off masturbation then masturbate only with my mind, etc…
I moved away from my friends, and started some introspection. I was so out of shape despite playing ball… I had bad skin, less muscle mass than ever, I was always tired… I remember being unable to sleep, being super stressed, anxious…
After a couple months, I got a girlfriend. My sex drive for her was crazy but speaking of sex, I remember having nearly no fantasies, nothing fancy, I just wanted to have sex, and I discovered that most people have secret fantasies, dreams, etc… this was not my case.
Then after some months I started to watch porn again, while being with her, and I can remember being “absent” when having sex, sometimes thinking of porn, sometimes even fantasizing about the sex we have as porn (like it was a video… how I would describe it etc)…
What I can say about porn :
Even today, my sex drive is lower than ever. I have hard time having a hard on from “nothing”. even without porn, and at 27… THis is starting to scare me.
[/quote]
Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this?
Very interesting article for you all to read
[quote]digitalairair wrote:
[quote]Biskui wrote:
I can relate to the topic a lot.
Some background : I grew up with the internet. My first e-mail was when I was 12 years old, something like 15 years ago, iirc. Of course I quickly became attracted to erotic pictures then porn pics.
From 17 to 21, I had two addictions : porn and weed. Back then, I spent all my evenings hanging with friends or at parties (mostly with male friends, not a lot of girls in the neighborhood) getting wasted on weed and booze, listening to music. At first it was full of fun, I had friends, good ones, and fun, and lot of memories.
Then I discovered that weed + porn was an extremely pleasant compilation. I was able to fap longer and to reach ultra strong orgasms, so I started to watch porn every evening after the parties, before sleeping. This quickly became an addiction.
The porn addiction was not new. I liked to watch porn etc from a younger age without thinking about the possible social damage, but mixing it with weed was a devastating combo.
Now I can say that with that porn habit, I lost interest with social interactions. I also had less sex drive for girls and was faaaar less able to spend my time / energy into seducing girls and getting them to bed, at an age when it should have been a sport.
At the age of 21, I started to have physical issues directly linked to masturbation / porn. That changed everything.
I got shoulder pain, and some kind of lower back / butt region pain. Went to a lot of exams, and after a while I discovered that excessive masturbation damaged some muscles in the perineum region. It affected my sports playing (I was playing basketball at regional level in my country).
I decided to stop totally porn, weed, and to get some weeks off masturbation then masturbate only with my mind, etc…
I moved away from my friends, and started some introspection. I was so out of shape despite playing ball… I had bad skin, less muscle mass than ever, I was always tired… I remember being unable to sleep, being super stressed, anxious…
After a couple months, I got a girlfriend. My sex drive for her was crazy but speaking of sex, I remember having nearly no fantasies, nothing fancy, I just wanted to have sex, and I discovered that most people have secret fantasies, dreams, etc… this was not my case.
Then after some months I started to watch porn again, while being with her, and I can remember being “absent” when having sex, sometimes thinking of porn, sometimes even fantasizing about the sex we have as porn (like it was a video… how I would describe it etc)…
What I can say about porn :
Even today, my sex drive is lower than ever. I have hard time having a hard on from “nothing”. even without porn, and at 27… THis is starting to scare me.
[/quote]
Actually my goal for quitting porn is to lower my sex drive. I think this might be quite opposite to some of you, who wish to increase sex drive in real life without porn. For me, I would like to lower my sex drive, period. Anyone has suggestions for this? [/quote]
Easy. Stay busy all day long and stay constantly stressed out. Make sure you are so stressed you can’t sleep and have to take drugs to go nighty-night.
Your welcome. Oh yeah, eat like crap too.
[quote]PimpBot5000 wrote:
Very interesting article for you all to read
The author is actually married to the guy in the video in the OP.
I wanted to give a one week update. So far so good, Similar to when I quit smoking, the urges are not all that strong. I have only thought about it maybe 3-4 times in the past week and each time the thought was easily dismissed as weakness.
It may be placebo at this point but I have noticed an increase in my ability to stay focused, especially at work. I didn’t go from the 100% slacker to the office buzzsaw, but I would say so far I have roughly improved my functionality at work by 10%. Day in and day out that will really add up. And if I can acheive 20% increased functionality by the end of this process I will be in the “office Buzzsaw” class of office worker. Since part of my income comes from commissions, working better leads to making more money, and that helps my family as a whole have a better quality of life.
I also informerd my wife, and while she pretty much always had a problem with it but used a I don’t want to know about it attitude towards it, she is very happy that I am doing this. So, our relationship is strengthened and that is always a good thing.
All in all it seems like this was a good thing for me to do. I’ll keep this updated for at least a month or two in case my story can help someone else make a positive change in their own life. (that’s why we are all here hopefully)
V