Shit, AOC doesn’t think there is anything wrong with it, at all. Holds it up as how good single payer can be.
It makes perfect sense that Trump wouldn’t want immigration reduced or the wall built. He stands to (and still does) profit from the use of cheap (and illegal) labor. He also stands to retain motivation with his base by not passing the wall in the first 2 years, and instead focusing on tax cuts for the rich. His base wasn’t going to chant for tax cuts anywhere near like they do for the wall.
GIven the amount of time it would take to complete the wall, it’s entirely possible and likely that it will be cancelled by the next Dem POTUS, even if Trump wins reelection this time.
Ryan was focused on tax cuts for the rich so he could step down and go work for Fox News. It was both brilliant and shameless, but he pulled it off quite nicely.
Imo it’s not that he “didn’t want it,” but he stood to gain more from it not being up/approved than he ever did getting it built.
Obama on illegal immigration:
I think Trump May have sincerely wanted to do something, but he was incapable of using his bully pulpit, or wrangling his caucus to do so.
The Congress May have done what he wanted, but he so irrevocably poisoned the waters with Flake, Murkowski and McCain (not undeservedly, for the record) that they’d have voted against anything he wanted. That’s a personality fault that is on him.
Congress WOULD have done what he asked, if his own early gaffes and his penchant for infighting had not made this an impossibility. Christ, the Mueller probe was launched due to his piss poor grasp of the optics of that situation.
Now, is it all his fault? No, not even close.
Is DC a cesspit with deep state vipers gunning for his head? I’d say so.
Did Trump hamstring himself with unforced errors and civil warring? Damn straight he did.
I like his policy, I like a lot of it, I even like his pugnacious personality on occasion, but he has always loaded the gun aimed at his own foot.
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I have very little issue with much of Trump’s immigration policy. The wall is just an ego driven manbaby talking point that costs so much more than is being initially requested that it gives me concern of the entire underlying purpose.
Also, because Republicans love to throw billions in social spending around and typically just enrich a few select companies. Just ask Cheney.
Since when has change brought change?
People can actually be against things they talk about all the time. It’s extremely common in politics. Especially when it makes political sense (as Trumps fuck these Mexicans stance makes). This is beautiful red meat for many of his supporters. Is it really that hard to imagine he wants the “problem” to exist for his re-election campaign. I’m not a conspiracy theorist type by nature but I think it’s clear that Trump has had opportunities to do certain deals that would move the needle.
I guess in your scenario it’s just something Trump can’t get done? Doesn’t that mean when it comes to that issue that you’d view him as a giant failure? I mean what good is a President who says “we need to do this” but can’t make it happen?
It’s also common with idiots.
I’m with you on this one, @cyclonengineer… but damn she has made one good Boggeyman for Conservatives. I don’t think many Conservative platforms can go a day without mentioning her.
(Hell…they are still chanting “Lock her (Hillary) UP!” at Trump rally’s…)
I think he’s right on this one. Ignoring his many faults, Newt is one of the best political strategists to ever play the game.
Interesting…
But let me throw this out to you guys…
Let’s say Harris goes into the DEM convention the Proverbial favorite…
Will the “DEM Machine” screw itself once again…and maneuver to throw Harris under the bus like they did Bernie…so that Biden “wins”?
If the DEMS pull this kind of stunt two elections in a row, they deserve to lose…(which I think will happen anyway, if these 3,465 candidates represent the best they have to go against Trump and the Trumpublicans…)
Nah, she’s their perfect candidate. Warren and Harris are the favorites of the party machine. The higher likelihood is that they’ll screw over Biden.
The debate hosters have already been accused of mic tampering, notably not to savage Harris or Warren.
Good Lord…
MAGA…!
You know who wants unlimited immigration? Donald Trump. More migrants and more migrant caravans translates into more votes for him.
These Trump cuts are basically designed to pressure people into packing up and heading for the US border.
Also, guess from which country do the guns for MS-13 and Mexican cartels come from?
She’s certainly surging. I think it’s still too early. Both sides have been littered with the corpses of the front runners at this point who ultimately failed.
I don’t think she will win but from a purely political operation it seems like Elizabeth Warren has done a really strong job with organization and the groundwork that helps in the early areas.*
*. And yes I think it’s annoying as hell the way we do this. I have no idea why we continue to give such weight to places like Iowa and New Hampshire who have a completely huge sway over the nomination process. It’s stupid.
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So do I, H…
As I said earlier…I think she is the Carly Fiorina of this group (conceding that Newt is MUCH smarter than me on these things…)
When you have a “moment” in a debate…it appears that you inevitably surge…but the question is, does it translate into a very long Primary…and an eventual party nomination?
We’ll see.
Very true. However, I think that a longer primary favors her more than Biden. He will be a punching bag for months.
Warren and Harris are in punching distance, assuming they don’t cannibalize each other, they could be the Trump/Cruz of this cycle. Biden may well be the Jeb! of this cycle.
Assuming one of them offers themselves as VP to the other, they have a commanding share of the vote.
As it has always been, it depends on who drops out and where the votes go.
At the risk of beclowning myself again (God I never learn) I will predict that Biden is done.
I agree with a lot of this. From what I’ve read Biden has been really weak in Iowa from an organization perspective. Doesn’t make much sense to me the narrative of doing great in the early states is so huge.
It’s weird to me that people are against the popular vote because states become more important than populated areas yet we have no problem picking our candidates in a manner where a few states have incredible power.
Won’t go there yet but his view as the definite front runner is gone. The problem is I don’t think big Dem money has turned out yet with such a large field. But the field will narrow quickly and that money will pour in. He better get to work in a hurry. I think he’s headed to Iowa now (no idea why not earlier.)