[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Despite the general attitude I see a lot of people having towards his somewhat odd and eccentric claims in recent years, I like to think that Poliquin was one of the first coaches, that a lot of people knew by name, who truly seemed to think about what his athletes were doing in terms far beyond what you could read in M&F magazines. I know that his writings were some of the first stuff that really got me analyzing every facet of my own approaches.
S[/quote]
Same exact case here. I discovered T-Nation because I typed “Charles Poliquin” in a search engine in 1999. Only later on did he become ridiculous in his statements. [/quote]
well you’ve only been here since 2012. So clearly you’re a liar[/quote]
I used to post under a different name from 2003 to 2011.
You can view this site and read its articles without being a registered member of the forum.
So clearly you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. [/quote]
orly? what kind of internet connection did you have in 1999
what kind of computer did you have in 1999
[/quote]
AOL.
Compaq.
You’re asking “orly?”. Meanwhile it’s evident you can read articles and the forums without being a registered member of the forums. Try it for yourself: log out and continue to read.
I also bought the Poliquin Principles in 1999 or 2000 and read Charles’ articles in Muscle Media for some time. Anything else you know about me that I don’t?[/quote]
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Despite the general attitude I see a lot of people having towards his somewhat odd and eccentric claims in recent years, I like to think that Poliquin was one of the first coaches, that a lot of people knew by name, who truly seemed to think about what his athletes were doing in terms far beyond what you could read in M&F magazines. I know that his writings were some of the first stuff that really got me analyzing every facet of my own approaches.
S[/quote]
Same exact case here. I discovered T-Nation because I typed “Charles Poliquin” in a search engine in 1999. Only later on did he become ridiculous in his statements. [/quote]
well you’ve only been here since 2012. So clearly you’re a liar[/quote]
I used to post under a different name from 2003 to 2011.
You can view this site and read its articles without being a registered member of the forum.
So clearly you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. [/quote]
orly? what kind of internet connection did you have in 1999
what kind of computer did you have in 1999
[/quote]
AOL.
Compaq.
You’re asking “orly?”. Meanwhile it’s evident you can read articles and the forums without being a registered member of the forums. Try it for yourself: log out and continue to read.
I also bought the Poliquin Principles in 1999 or 2000 and read Charles’ articles in Muscle Media for some time. Anything else you know about me that I don’t?[/quote]
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Despite the general attitude I see a lot of people having towards his somewhat odd and eccentric claims in recent years, I like to think that Poliquin was one of the first coaches, that a lot of people knew by name, who truly seemed to think about what his athletes were doing in terms far beyond what you could read in M&F magazines. I know that his writings were some of the first stuff that really got me analyzing every facet of my own approaches.
S[/quote]
Same exact case here. I discovered T-Nation because I typed “Charles Poliquin” in a search engine in 1999. Only later on did he become ridiculous in his statements. [/quote]
well you’ve only been here since 2012. So clearly you’re a liar[/quote]
I used to post under a different name from 2003 to 2011.
You can view this site and read its articles without being a registered member of the forum.
So clearly you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. [/quote]
orly? what kind of internet connection did you have in 1999
what kind of computer did you have in 1999
[/quote]
AOL.
Compaq.
You’re asking “orly?”. Meanwhile it’s evident you can read articles and the forums without being a registered member of the forums. Try it for yourself: log out and continue to read.
I also bought the Poliquin Principles in 1999 or 2000 and read Charles’ articles in Muscle Media for some time. Anything else you know about me that I don’t?[/quote]
I liked Poliquin’s stuff. Couldn’t wait to read Question of Strength starting way back in 98. I remember writing to Bill Phillips and Muscle Media a long time ago and complaining and he said, “He doesn’t write for my magazine anymore. Stop being a lazy ass and go find where he writes for now”
Can’t believe I’ve been reading testosterone.net for 15 years.
well you’ve only been here since 2012. So clearly you’re a liar[/quote]
I used to post under a different name from 2003 to 2011.
You can view this site and read its articles without being a registered member of the forum.
So clearly you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. [/quote]
@Brick - how many times do you have to justify yourself on this site lol. I was only thinking about it when I saw you post and then bam there it is again lol
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Despite the general attitude I see a lot of people having towards his somewhat odd and eccentric claims in recent years, I like to think that Poliquin was one of the first coaches, that a lot of people knew by name, who truly seemed to think about what his athletes were doing in terms far beyond what you could read in M&F magazines. I know that his writings were some of the first stuff that really got me analyzing every facet of my own approaches.
S[/quote]
Same exact case here. I discovered T-Nation because I typed “Charles Poliquin” in a search engine in 1999. Only later on did he become ridiculous in his statements. [/quote]
I love his ridiculous statements becasue they make you sit up and think WTF! He once wrote ‘never take your vitamin and mineral tablet with your morning oats’ now I thought this was bullshit as this was my ritual every morning but still it intrigued me and then I learned about phytic acid! So the man was right all along.
The thing is he never explains his stuff, he just comes out with wild statements leaving you wondering, is he fucking bananas or does he know something we don’t? Like this one ‘people with blue eyes can’t metabolise caffeine efficiently resulting in jitters and irritability so are better off avoiding coffee’ - still looking into that one…
Btw Strength Sensei is a fucking shite new name… with his superior intellect and photographic memory (he claims to have one) he could have come up with something better!
Maybe the fuckers at Poliquin HQ have dibs on his name?
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health?
well you’ve only been here since 2012. So clearly you’re a liar[/quote]
I used to post under a different name from 2003 to 2011.
You can view this site and read its articles without being a registered member of the forum.
So clearly you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. [/quote]
@Brick - how many times do you have to justify yourself on this site lol. I was only thinking about it when I saw you post and then bam there it is again lol[/quote]
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health? [/quote]
That would be slavic people and the further north and to the west you go in Europe, the more gluten issues there are.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health? [/quote]
That would be slavic people and the further north and to the west you go in Europe, the more gluten issues there are. [/quote]
Many Slavs are still fully Nordic. Initially, they were fully Nordic, but later on mixed with Mediterranean and Alpine whites.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health? [/quote]
That would be slavic people and the further north and to the west you go in Europe, the more gluten issues there are. [/quote]
Many Slavs are still fully Nordic. Initially, they were fully Nordic, but later on mixed with Mediterranean and Alpine whites.
I didn’t know about the gluten issues there. [/quote]
You need only look at celiacs disease and how common it is.
IMO celiacs is just the tip of the iceberg, but a good indicator how well people deal with grains.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health? [/quote]
That would be slavic people and the further north and to the west you go in Europe, the more gluten issues there are. [/quote]
Many Slavs are still fully Nordic. Initially, they were fully Nordic, but later on mixed with Mediterranean and Alpine whites.
I didn’t know about the gluten issues there. [/quote]
You need only look at celiacs disease and how common it is.
IMO celiacs is just the tip of the iceberg, but a good indicator how well people deal with grains. [/quote]
Obviously not gonna hold up a single example as a scientific study, but I’m of Northern European stock and oats give me the shits
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I also remember him saying something along the lines of grains not being good food sources for Nordic whites. If I have it correct, wheat has been a huge mainstay of some parts of Eastern Europe. Have all the Nordic people living there been wrecking their health? [/quote]
That would be slavic people and the further north and to the west you go in Europe, the more gluten issues there are. [/quote]
Many Slavs are still fully Nordic. Initially, they were fully Nordic, but later on mixed with Mediterranean and Alpine whites.
I didn’t know about the gluten issues there. [/quote]
You need only look at celiacs disease and how common it is.
IMO celiacs is just the tip of the iceberg, but a good indicator how well people deal with grains. [/quote]
Obviously not gonna hold up a single example as a scientific study, but I’m of Northern European stock and oats give me the shits[/quote]
Well then, case closed I guess.
Good work gentlemen.
We can all rest easy tonight.
Poliquin’s PICP had a positive impact on my coaching. He designed the PICP curriculum based off of the methods he used to train his athletes. When he left, the group made statements against him as if he was just the face of the company and not the brains. Strangely enough, all the original coaches who ran the courses also left within a 6 month period shortly after. Andre, Ryan and now Derek are all gone. These coaches are also credible strength coaches who have trained top level athletes in the past.
I think some of you who criticize Poliquin should try his stuff BEFORE you offer an opinion.
Do I think his magic mangoes will get me jacked overnight ? No.
Do I think doing wide-grip deadlifts with a narrow foot stance make me run like a man who stole something ? Yes. Why ? Because the moment I added them to my program I was running like a fucking deer again.
Do I think eating more healthy fats make me stronger, leaner, and feel better ? Yes, I do now, because Charles was the first person I knew of to even suggest the idea of eating more healthy fat.
The same is true about grains, and how I handle them (which is poor as fuck). I would have never considered this idea until Charles suggested it.
I think I am a pretty reasonably minded guy, and I am open to different ideas. If something doesn’t work, I eliminate it. Does it mean it’s wrong ? No, it just means it doesn’t work for me.
I look at this as refining my overall toolbox, adding what works, and dumping what doesn’t.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I think some of you who criticize Poliquin should try his stuff BEFORE you offer an opinion.
Do I think his magic mangoes will get me jacked overnight ? No.
Do I think doing wide-grip deadlifts with a narrow foot stance make me run like a man who stole something ? Yes. Why ? Because the moment I added them to my program I was running like a fucking deer again.
Do I think eating more healthy fats make me stronger, leaner, and feel better ? Yes, I do now, because Charles was the first person I knew of to even suggest the idea of eating more healthy fat.
The same is true about grains, and how I handle them (which is poor as fuck). I would have never considered this idea until Charles suggested it.
I think I am a pretty reasonably minded guy, and I am open to different ideas. If something doesn’t work, I eliminate it. Does it mean it’s wrong ? No, it just means it doesn’t work for me.
I look at this as refining my overall toolbox, adding what works, and dumping what doesn’t.[/quote]
Please refrain from using such profound logic and reasoning. This is the interwebz and we like to first fly off the handle and then try and make sense of our positions
In all seriousness I personally found Poliquins articles to be a 50/50 mix of insane comments (I have blue eyes and can drink a pot of coffee without any energy let alone jitters) and excellent insights.
Either way the man got me thinking and researching ideas and trying out new things for myself.
Now the question will be how will the program hold up now that he left and if the certifications will mean anything in the future.
