Seen horrible scarring from boiling water attacks but I would’ve recessed back and changed tactics
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Yeah, that’s what I’m trying to get at. Water that’s barely boiling is one thing. If it’s a closed pot built up with a bunch of steam, it’s possibly far outside of my usual thinking
Steam would become boiling water then become cold as the energy transfers to your body. I remember that from high school chemistry. Steam it’s way more dangerous that hot water
It could depend on local parlance, but it does not specifically imply either of those religious sacraments. That could also depend on if you’re talking to a Catholic or some other type of Christian.
In a very general sense, the phrase can be interpreted as someone signaling disapproval along religious lines. It is not a threat of harm at all.
In the context of whether or not lethal force is justified, it could be. Is a pot of boiling water capable of causing death or great bodily harm? Yes, obviously the latter. From 15 feet away in that situation? It doesn’t seem so to me, especially given the whole context.
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Im not really being a wise ass though.
The point is that training time illustrates emphasis.
And after watching the video slowed down & with captions, I’m on the side of “Guy is lucky he picked up on those cues, or he’d be in a burn unit right now”, and the understanding that she set the water to boil before they entered.
I don’t mind being wrong. Not trying to cause friction.
My bad. I apologize.
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I bet the officer in question would agree
I think the sarcastic threat was so interesting
After that it requires extra humbleness to do that
I actually think the sarcastic threat should be illegal
If someone rebukes someone in anyones name, the correct response is something along the lines of a sarcastic “aw man” or “please don’t”, not a death threat
I did to me too. Like “Holy shit, where’d that come from!!!”. Then I slowed it down.
I don’t know what that means to other people.
What I do know is that when I heard that IRL, knives and a gun followed.
A pot of boiling water will poach the skin right off of your body. Extremely painful, and extremely dangerous.
For real- the only thing that could be more dangerous or painful would be hot oil or drain cleaner, as far as common household items go.
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Fully accepted and understood. It’s an absolute shame to see the way a lot of the guys of your profession have been treated lately.
Its like, the hard working high investment guys get the shit end of the stick in this sociopolitical climate, while the low investment, low effort guys just sit back and watch them get it.
Thats how the shitheads win.
I agree
Thank you for answering my questions
There was a power dynamic at play in my opinion, which would point to second degree murder in my opinion.
There was also elements of confusion and incompetence that would point to third degree murder in my opinion.
I don’t see first degree at all.
Calling it not murder at all is long term dangerous imo, and also just wrong imo.
But I do feel bad for the officer because I think she did suicide by cop. I think they should have training and a culture of making suicide by cop harder to accomplish. No disrespect intended to any police
I think the other officer did too. He felt safe enough to have his back turned and seemed to only draw his pistol because the other guy did
If I remember correctly
If someone is committed to killing themselves, there is nothing you can do.
If someone gets talked off a ledge, it’s because they wanted someone to talk them off the ledge. The person who is determined to die won’t stop to have a conversation.
To the officers defense, it’s probably hard to discern exactly how boiling the pot is in a split second ( I realize boiling occurs at a specific temperature, but keeping the theme of the comment I’m responding to). So their jobs are hard. But I don’t think an expectation of better situational control is out of the atmosphere, so reiterating expectations of high standards considering risk of consequence makes sense too. Retreat and call for backup. Or switch to your tazer. Not exactly asking for a perfectly placed knee shot while dodging bullets like many seem to expect.
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How did we get to suicide by cop? I’ve been at a powerlifting meet all day and am behind on the story.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said in that post. I don’t see how anything you’ve said in that post either confirms or denies what you’ve quoted
Because you can’t make it harder to commit suicide by cop. Whether or not an armed attacker is trying to commit suicide won’t change the response. If you want to make it harder to commit suicide by cop, assuming it’s possible, it would require doing something to make it harder to attack cops in general.
Ty buddy… some guys earn being shit on and some don’t. Its the collective guilt that annoys me
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Have you watched the video?
I disagree.
I meant harder than the efforts I perceived from the contents of the video, not an absolute statement for all settings
You are assuming had the cop known it was a case of suicide by cop, assuming it was, he would have reacted differently. It doesn’t work that way. You, and I mean you, and anyone else, responds to the threat, not the motive behind it. That would be idiotic.
Which has zero to do with suicide by cop.
I’m not seeing suicide by cop from this lady. At worst a moment of confused panic after the cop went from zero to death threat in about a second.
Nothing about the lengthy lead up indicated a suicidal woman.
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I’m not the only weird one here man. I asked you a question and accusing me of assuming is your response to the question itself. That’s beautiful
I view her and him as actors and reactors. He should have acted differently if he knew that.
I hadn’t assumed that, but it’s a reasonable expectation from the average LEO I would hope