This story takes the cake regarding police brutality and incompetence. And to make things worse, there is no “justice” for the victim and his family (second link).
The police also conspired almost immediately after the incident to cover-up what had happened. The complaint alleges that after Lilly had shot Arambula, Sgt. Sean Coutts, told the officer, â??Thatâ??s all right. Donâ??t worry about it. I got your backâ?¦…We clear?â?? The complaint points to the recording of the 911 call as proof…
This quote is funny, looks like this attorney remembered a bit of logic from law school:
[quote]Gannon and other members of the organization’s board said the shooting was difficult to avoid, considering the fluidity of the emergency scene.
“If Brian would have known there was a homeowner in there, he probably would have hesitated,” Gannon said, “but if he had hesitated, and it was the (suspect), the outcome could have been tragic.” [/quote]
So, by one easy application of hypothetical syllogism we get “If Brian would have known there was a homeowner in there, the outcome could have been tragic”.
But of course, according to Arambula’s wife, [quote]I told them my husband was inside, he was the one with the gun[/quote]
So, by modus ponens,
“the outcome could have been tragic”
Anyway… just wait for all the police defenders to come in. “You don’t know what really happened”, “Police are like infallible Gods, any mistakes they make can be excused”, bla bla. Really, Arambula’s attorney’s quote says it all: [quote]This is the type of thing that so severely demeans the credibility of these (police) review boards[/quote] The real point here is that even if these officers were justified and even if they stories are skewed, I really have a hard time believing any internal investigations were unbiased or fair.
[quote]stokedporcupine8 wrote:
This quote is funny, looks like this attorney remembered a bit of logic from law school:
Gannon and other members of the organization’s board said the shooting was difficult to avoid, considering the fluidity of the emergency scene.
“If Brian would have known there was a homeowner in there, he probably would have hesitated,” Gannon said, “but if he had hesitated, and it was the (suspect), the outcome could have been tragic.”
So, by one easy application of hypothetical syllogism we get “If Brian would have known there was a homeowner in there, the outcome could have been tragic”.
But of course, according to Arambula’s wife, I told them my husband was inside, he was the one with the gun
So, by modus ponens,
“the outcome could have been tragic”
Anyway… just wait for all the police defenders to come in. “You don’t know what really happened”, “Police are like infallible Gods, any mistakes they make can be excused”, bla bla. Really, Arambula’s attorney’s quote says it all: This is the type of thing that so severely demeans the credibility of these (police) review boards The real point here is that even if these officers were justified and even if they stories are skewed, I really have a hard time believing any internal investigations were unbiased or fair. [/quote]
I agree.
What is so enraging is that the 911 call clearly illustrates that these two cops screwed up and they knew it, yet the review board seemingly ignored the content of it.