Police: 2 Women Gang Raped By Juveniles In Wilmington Park

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

I personally don’t understand how a term can have such a bad connotation for its past when that past is in fact long gone and those around today are not even aware of that history as far as being impacted by it now. I attribute that to my not being an ethnic minority - in the US.
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I suspect you are younger than me and I think this is a generational perception. I bet if you were twenty or more years older the “past” wouldn’t seem so “long gone” and distant. But a lot has certainly changed since they first passed Civil Rights Act of 1964.

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I’m 26 years old. I’ve never heard someone white call a black person a “nigger.” I’ve been called cracker and honkie many times living in Pittsburgh, but it was when I was younger - like junior highschool age.

If I’m honest I do recall an uncle using the word when the topic came up in a manner of disdain toward black folks about 12 years ago, and he being in his late 50’s now would put him around the appropriate age to have remembered the 60’s if only somewhat. So for the older generation, ie those folks who are now approaching the grandparent ageframe, I can still see some distaste and disdain for the term probably having grown up in an evironment where it was used in a derogatory manner, but nowadays, at least in my area, the term is used by blacks towards blacks, not in a derogatory sense. But strangely enough, all of the black folks I’ve personally met the same age as my parents - who would probably be the last to truly be offended because they probably remember the separation, have all been very nice and great people.

It seems the younger folks, who were/are completely unaffected have the bad taste in their mouths - maybe it was taught at home, or maybe its just “cool” to hate whitey. Another way for younger folks to be rebellious. White kids are rebellious to their parents, minorities get to one up and be rebellious to both parents and society. Again, don’t know.

As the one South Park Wheel of Fortune episode so eloquently puts it, we don’t understand and that’s all we can admit, is we don’t understand (I believe Token - the only black kid in South Park said it). The term itself is disrespectful yes, but I still feel its being held higher than it should be and for more reasons than unfair treatment up until the 60’s and slavery in the 1800’s. Otherwise the word would be held with such disdain it wouldn’t be used by anybody, including people that could potentially be called it.

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The N-word is ubiquitous in Louisiana. I couldn’t go one day without hearing it at least several times. And I don’t mean ‘nigga’, I mean the real one.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Like I said on another thread, there really needs to be new ethnic slur for white people, one
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I’ve noticed that non-Jewish white people are offended by “goy,” for whatever reason, even though it actually has no derogatory meaning.

(It just means “people” but has taken the meaning of “non-Jewish person.”)

Perhaps those wishing to offend whites can borrow that word, then blame it on the Jews — that’s a two-for-one for racists.

FWIW, in Phoenix the Mexican derogatory word for whites is huero (pronounced “where-o”). No idea how it is spelled or its origin.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Like I said on another thread, there really needs to be new ethnic slur for white people, one
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I’ve noticed that non-Jewish white people are offended by “goy,” for whatever reason, even though it actually has no derogatory meaning.

(It just means “people” but has taken the meaning of “non-Jewish person.”)

Perhaps those wishing to offend whites can borrow that word, then blame it on the Jews — that’s a two-for-one for racists.

FWIW, in Phoenix the Mexican derogatory word for whites is huero (pronounced “where-o”). No idea how it is spelled or its origin.
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Why not just call us Gentiles?

Varq, Albino wont work because there are Albino Black people, so they will get offended.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Like I said on another thread, there really needs to be new ethnic slur for white people, one
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I’ve noticed that non-Jewish white people are offended by “goy,” for whatever reason, even though it actually has no derogatory meaning.

(It just means “people” but has taken the meaning of “non-Jewish person.”)

Perhaps those wishing to offend whites can borrow that word, then blame it on the Jews — that’s a two-for-one for racists.

FWIW, in Phoenix the Mexican derogatory word for whites is huero (pronounced “where-o”). No idea how it is spelled or its origin.
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That’s why I like “pigger”. It’s an equal-opportunity slur, that Jews can use against those pork-eating goyim.

Guero also means albino. It comes from the Spanish word for an “empty sac” miscarriage. A bad egg that’s all white, no yolk, in other words.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I’m 26 years old. I’ve never heard someone white call a black person a “nigger.”[/quote]

What color is the sky in your world?

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I’ve been called cracker and honkie many times living in Pittsburgh, but it was when I was younger - like junior highschool age. [/quote]

Seriously…who has heard someone actually say these words without a smile on their face?

Side note: I often see some white guys claim they were harassed in grade school…but I never see the notion that maybe they were just assholes.

I see too many white guys in previously mostly black neighborhoods to think racism against whites is a main issue in those neighborhoods. More like “which” white people if at all. The white guy with the tats and the platinum teeth probably won’t get messed with unless he is truly fake.

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If I’m honest I do recall an uncle using the word when the topic came up in a manner of disdain toward black folks about 12 years ago,[/quote]

LOL. Black Folks.

Sounds like a jazz band.

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It seems the younger folks, who were/are completely unaffected have the bad taste in their mouths - maybe it was taught at home, or maybe its just “cool” to hate whitey. Another way for younger folks to be rebellious. White kids are rebellious to their parents, minorities get to one up and be rebellious to both parents and society. Again, don’t know.[/quote]
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I see kids use that term around here daily and many of them are Hispanic and white. They just grew up here…and they aren’t using it as a negative term at all.

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[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Varq, Albino wont work because there are Albino Black people, so they will get offended.
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Albinos will get offended no matter what.

http://www.skinema.com/SpotMediaMatrix1.html

I’ve always found the idea of “albino black people” to be kind of funny. Albinism is by definition the absence of melanin, which is what causes black people to be black. Ergo, you can be an albino African, but “black albino” is as oxymoronic as “Christian atheist”.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

Varq, Albino wont work because there are Albino Black people, so they will get offended.
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Albinos will get offended no matter what.

http://www.skinema.com/SpotMediaMatrix1.html

I’ve always found the idea of “albino black people” to be kind of funny. Albinism is by definition the absence of melanin, which is what causes black people to be black. Ergo, you can be an albino African, but “black albino” is as oxymoronic as “Christian atheist”.[/quote]

You see this most often in people of African descent. I had at least two friends in school that were and they were both black.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

You see this most often in people of African descent. I had at least two friends in school that were and they were both black.[/quote]

I ran into a few in Sumatra. There must be nothing more miserable than having to go through life with no pigment in a place where you are bombarded by equatorial sun twelve hours a day, every day.

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So there’s a white anthropologist who has been living for years among the Khoikhoi in southern Africa. He is well-known and generally liked by the entire tribe, until one day one of the chief’s wives gives birth to a white baby.

The chief is furious, and confronts the anthropologist.

“Listen, Doc, you’re the only white man who’s ever been to this village, and here we have this white baby! What do you have to say about this?”

The anthropologist tries to calm the chief. “My friend, what we have here is an albino, a genetic anomaly.” The chief still frowns. “Let me explain,” the anthropologist continues, pointing at a herd of sheep nearby. “Do you see those sheep? All of them are white except that one black one. Nature does this sometimes.”

The chief thinks about this for a while. Finally he says, in a low voice, “tell you what, Doc, I won’t say anything about the baby if you don’t say anything about the sheep.”

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I’m 26 years old. I’ve never heard someone white call a black person a “nigger.” [/quote]

I do believe that this has a lot to do with both age and where you live/grew up. Now 38, I was raised in northern California and witnessed very little racism personally (I am white, and was raised in lower/middle-class household). I know it existed but I just did not see it very much. I had Black, Mexican and Asian friends and no one really thought of this as ‘good’ or ‘bad’. It just was.

Later as an adult I lived for some years in a small town in Michigan. There I saw and experienced both overt and systemic racism. I was shocked, thinking that I just moved back 50 years in time. And in a way I had.

I would like to think that in general we are trending positive in this area as a country. I am hoping another generation will help further.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Like I said on another thread, there really needs to be new ethnic slur for white people, one
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I’ve noticed that non-Jewish white people are offended by “goy,” for whatever reason, even though it actually has no derogatory meaning.

(It just means “people” but has taken the meaning of “non-Jewish person.”)

Perhaps those wishing to offend whites can borrow that word, then blame it on the Jews — that’s a two-for-one for racists.

FWIW, in Phoenix the Mexican derogatory word for whites is huero (pronounced “where-o”). No idea how it is spelled or its origin.
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That’s why I like “pigger”. It’s an equal-opportunity slur, that Jews can use against those pork-eating goyim.

Guero also means albino. It comes from the Spanish word for an “empty sac” miscarriage. A bad egg that’s all white, no yolk, in other words.
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But think if we had a word in Hewbrew. Or German, does not matter, but if it sounds harsh enough it has instant street cred.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:
I’m 26 years old. I’ve never heard someone white call a black person a “nigger.”[/quote]

What color is the sky in your world?
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To answer your question, blue. The curvature of the earth causes the sky to be blue as its wavelength/frequency is the one capable of bending to said curvature. If the earth were a different shape, the sky would in fact be a different color.

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I’ve been called cracker and honkie many times living in Pittsburgh, but it was when I was younger - like junior highschool age. [/quote]

Seriously…who has heard someone actually say these words without a smile on their face?

Side note: I often see some white guys claim they were harassed in grade school…but I never see the notion that maybe they were just assholes.

I see too many white guys in previously mostly black neighborhoods to think racism against whites is a main issue in those neighborhoods. More like “which” white people if at all. The white guy with the tats and the platinum teeth probably won’t get messed with unless he is truly fake. [/quote]

I didn’t grow up in a black neighborhood. I was called a cracker when we went into Pittsburgh with my classmates (for a field trip) to see a play. We were maybe one of two schools there prodominantly white. All of the black kids around us were calling us crackers in front of their teachers with no reprimanding and certainly weren’t smiling, except at the expense of making jokes about us being white.

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If I’m honest I do recall an uncle using the word when the topic came up in a manner of disdain toward black folks about 12 years ago,[/quote]

LOL. Black Folks.

Sounds like a jazz band.
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Glad you like it. You didn’t like “black community” so I guess I’ll just start saying black people.

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It seems the younger folks, who were/are completely unaffected have the bad taste in their mouths - maybe it was taught at home, or maybe its just “cool” to hate whitey. Another way for younger folks to be rebellious. White kids are rebellious to their parents, minorities get to one up and be rebellious to both parents and society. Again, don’t know.[/quote]
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I see kids use that term around here daily and many of them are Hispanic and white. They just grew up here…and they aren’t using it as a negative term at all.

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How do the black people in that area react when a white person or hispanic person uses the word? How do they react when the word is used and directed at them in a positive/negative sense? How do the black people react when another black person calls them the same word, more than likely in a positive sense?

Is the word the problem, or who is saying it?

Edit: I answered each of your questions, however it was not broken out of the quotes, apparently I didn’t interpret the code well enough, but they are all there. I think I fixed it, hopefully.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

To answer your question, blue. The curvature of the earth causes the sky to be blue as its wavelength/frequency is the one capable of bending to said curvature. If the earth were a different shape, the sky would in fact be a different color. [/quote]

Actually, it’s the composition of the atmosphere, not the curvature of the earth, that causes the sky to be blue. Sunlight enters the atmosphere, reflects off the surface of the earth, then reflects off the atmosphere. Many of the wavelengths of visible light are absorbed, while blue reflects back at us. If the atmosphere were thicker, the sky might be red or orange.

This is the same reason the deep ocean is blue. Light enters, and blue is the wavelength that makes it back to our eyes. The shallow seas around the coasts only reflect green: the color of the algae in the water.

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Sigh damnit. Its been too long since highschool. You get the point. :stuck_out_tongue: My memory is failing me in my old age. Must be the radiation from Fukushima that’s melting my once sharp mind.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
WILMINGTON, Del. (CBS) - Police in Wilmington are investigating the reported gang rape of two women at a park in Delaware.

Police say two women, ages 32 and 24, were reportedly attacked and sexually assaulted by a group of 10 to 12 black male juveniles in Kosciuszko Park at about 6:54 p.m. Thursday. According to police, the suspects, who range in age from 12 to 17-years-old, remain on the loose. The victims were transported to Christiana Hospital for treatment.

Wilmington police increased patrols Friday in the park which is located in the 600 block of South Franklin Street in the Hedgeville Community. At this time no arrests have been made and police say they have no witnesses. The incident remains under investigation by the Wilmington Police

Anyone with information is urged to call:

Detective Joseph Cooper @ 302.576.3634
Wilmington Police Confidential Tip Line @ 302.576.3990

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/08/30/police-2-women-gang-raped-by-juveniles-in-wilmington-park/[/quote]

This is why women should be armed.

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[quote]Quasi-Tech wrote:

How do the black people in that area react when a white person or hispanic person uses the word? [/quote]

All black people don’t think or act the same.

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How do they react when the word is used and directed at them in a positive/negative sense? [/quote]

All black people don’t think or act the same.

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How do the black people react when another black person calls them the same word, more than likely in a positive sense?[/quote]

All black people don’t think or act the same.

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Is the word the problem, or who is saying it?[/quote]

All black people don’t think or act the same.

I am not playing games when I write this either.

I am just showing how the predominant thought is always back to all of us acting as one entity…

That word doesn’t mean what is used to to previous generations. Different people respond differently.

There is no “black response” to this.

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Getting back momentarily to the idea of a new slur to be used for white folks, as much as I like “pigger” I do think that “blank” has some potential. Like I said, “blanc” and “blanco” already mean “white” in French and Spanish, so it would cross linguistic barriers nicely. The connotation of “empty” or “without substance” would be an added benefit.

And just think: when (after a hundred years or so), it’s time for one of the formerly oppressed whites to “take back” the racial slur, a white rapper can just sing:

I’m blank y’all, and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank and I’m blank y’all
I’m piggety blank blank
And blank blank and blankety blank yo
Because I’m blank and I’m blank
Yo I’m blank and then blank y’all and I’m blankety blank and
I’m blank y’all and I’m blank y’all and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank and I’m blank y’all and
I’m piggety blank blank blank blankety blank blank blank blank blank blank blank y’all
And I’m blank y’all, and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank cause I’m BLANK.

Blank you very much.

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Getting back momentarily to the idea of a new slur to be used for white folks, as much as I like “pigger” I do think that “blank” has some potential. Like I said, “blanc” and “blanco” already mean “white” in French and Spanish, so it would cross linguistic barriers nicely. The connotation of “empty” or “without substance” would be an added benefit.

And just think: when (after a hundred years or so), it’s time for one of the formerly oppressed whites to “take back” the racial slur, a white rapper can just sing:

I’m blank y’all, and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank and I’m blank y’all
I’m piggety blank blank
And blank blank and blankety blank yo
Because I’m blank and I’m blank
Yo I’m blank and then blank y’all and I’m blankety blank and
I’m blank y’all and I’m blank y’all and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank and I’m blank y’all and
I’m piggety blank blank blank blankety blank blank blank blank blank blank blank y’all
And I’m blank y’all, and I’m blank y’all
And I’m blankety blank cause I’m BLANK.

Blank you very much.
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Hmmm, my very racist mother has a lot of terms for white and black people (and Mexicans and everyone else):

“square head” was the most common. Usually “fucking square-headed bastard”

“Pus” (white and diseased) for a group of whites. As in “I went to the bar, but there was too much pus there infecting the place, so we left.”

“Belegana” is an actual Apache (and maybe others) insult for whites. Basically means “silly” but it has a connotation of “souless and evil” It’s like calling someone Hitler.

“Gavacho/Gringo”

“Maggots” (white and dirty used like “pus”)

“Whitey”

“Wigger” or “white trash” for poor/trashy white people. (“Stop acting like your wigger friends and do your homework.”

“Silver pony tail” are white people who pretend to be NA (because they are generally old hippies with silver pony tails) (also “windians”) (“The windian from Sante Fe is here trying to get you to sign up for welfare.”)

Blacks, she had all the usual, plus:

“Crows” or “burr-heads” for blacks.