Please Tell Me You're Not Like This

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
And to ProfX - I see a 300 pound muscled up motherfucker come in - I’m asking if he’s my doctor - white or black, or Indonesian. I don’t think I am ignorant. I wonder if you were 155-160 would you get the same question. I’m willing to bet that it is a size issue rather than a color issue. Maybe not - but you are a rare find in the medical profession - black, or not.

I can kinda vouch for this, and I’m one who knows people do work out in efforts to get HYOOOGGEEE. My physical therapist was once about 6’0 250 lbs, (and prof, I think I remember reading on one of your posts you’re 280, not 250 like it says in your profile) and I was a little bit surprised when I saw him. But then again it could have been his mullet.[/quote]

I’m not that heavy anymore (I have been dieting and will until around March or April), and I don’t have a mullet. I would be suprised at someone still wearing a mullet also.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I’m not that heavy anymore (I have been dieting and will until around March or April), and I don’t have a mullet. I would be suprised at someone still wearing a mullet also.[/quote]

I would pay cash money - good money at that - to see ProfX sporting a mullet.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I’m not that heavy anymore (I have been dieting and will until around March or April), and I don’t have a mullet. I would be suprised at someone still wearing a mullet also.

I would pay cash money - good money at that - to see ProfX sporting a mullet. [/quote]

I would either pay cash or money, but probably not cash money, that’s asking a little much.

[quote]CaptainLogic wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Professor X wrote:
I’m not that heavy anymore (I have been dieting and will until around March or April), and I don’t have a mullet. I would be suprised at someone still wearing a mullet also.

I would pay cash money - good money at that - to see ProfX sporting a mullet.

I would either pay cash or money, but probably not cash money, that’s asking a little much.[/quote]

Ha! Ya cheeky lil’ twat!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
slim tim wrote:
Prof. I was demonstrating the stupidity of blanket statements. What is interesting is that you attacked my response because it was a stereotypical statement, yet you didn?t attack the original poster?s racist statement. Is it because ONLY white people can be racist?

I did attack your response. I am glad you were joking. I didn’t attack the original poster for the simple reason that some of the responses I have gotten in the past (some very much like the ones he quoted) leave me scratching my head as well. I think we just had a conversation like this a few weeks ago in this forum.

I personally would never have worded it like that, however, his thread title did imply that he was asking the question. Had he simply logged on and accused without the question, I would have said the same to him. I personally found your comment offensive. I didn’t catch the humor in it and I would be surprised if I was alone. Either way, I apologize for accusing you falsely.[/quote]

Now that, Ladies & Gentlemen, was the act of a true T-Man. Thank you Prof X.

The Africans are no more innocent than the Europeans. Let’s not forget that white + black are afterall both human beings and unfortunatly certain elements within our races have more pronounced character flaws inherent in the human species. War, violence and domination is a human condition, not a race condition.

The Europeans conquered and opressed other human beings. The Africans conquered and opressed human beings. They dominated as much as they could within the means they had. It’s quite universal. No race or culture in history is innocent or blameless.
Life isnt fair, people arent perfect, thats reality.

Whoa… didn’t expect this.

Ok, first of all, my statement about white people was sarcastic. I know that it’s stupid to develop an opinion for the entire white population (or aglos, whatever you want to call them) of the U.S. from one person. Secondly, at least I’m not hypocritical enough to say that I don’t have biases. Everyone does. I do, however, try to either educate myself about the group in question or interact with members of said group in the hopes of erasing said bias. I’d be very surprised if none of you had any predetermined thoughts about any ethnic groups. If you don’t, then I envy you, you’re clearly more objective than me.

Secondly, maybe I didn’t make the purpose of this thread clear. I didn’t create it as an excuse to bash white people (novax later said he wasn’t white, so I have no clue what he is), or republicans (because I know that even though this has nothing to do with political affiliation, some of you are thinking it), or any other group. I simply wanted to show the response that I got… to let off some steam. This… this pendejo infuriated me because I meet people like him on a daily basis. Though he didn’t explicitely say it, it’s not crazy to assume that he believed there was a correlation between the african’s natives skin color and the present situation of that country.

I’ve seen people use similar reasoning to justify their racism against mexicans, Puerto Ricans… nearly all natives to lesser-developed countries. It just grinded me to see another example of this.

Rainjack, I didn’t come here to bitch. I know the world ain’t perfect, I know I’m gonna meet people whom I disagree with completely on a regular basis. Please stop talking down to me. We have regular chicano vs. black fights at my school and other schools around my neighborhood. We had an honor student shot 3 blocks away from my school a couple of years ago in a drive-by.

I’ve been confused with “the help” so many times it’s funny. I never was offended by it though, because it IS true that a disproportionate amount of people in landscaping are latinos. However, to tie this into race is moronic. J.D.'s “Gun, Germs, and Steel” does a much better job of explaining the reasons for different societal development that I could ever hope to do, so if you’re interested, pick it up.

So, anyways, I just wanted to post this here because I’ve encountered people much more knowledgable than me here (in various topics, not just politics or weight lifting), not because I wanted to be reassured or pick a fight. Flame a way if you want… though I don’t think I deserve it.

Prof. X,

You get this, “You’re the doctor?” bullshit in the Army? That seems very odd. 2 out of the 3 doctors I dealt with in the Army were Black, and there are so many Black people in positions of authority. I wonder if anyone ever hears, “You’re the general?”

[quote]doogie wrote:
Prof. X,

You get this, “You’re the doctor?” bullshit in the Army? That seems very odd. 2 out of the 3 doctors I dealt with in the Army were Black, and there are so many Black people in positions of authority. I wonder if anyone ever hears, “You’re the general?”[/quote]

I have stated this several times before, but again, I am not in the “army”. I am the youngest doc in the clinic. I am one out of two black doctors in the clinic and the other is a contract and over 50. I know my age also plays a factor in the questions, along with my size. However, I won’t pretend as if skin color has nothing to do with it.

And yes, I have been questioned about my rank as well. The one Asian guy I wrote about nearly lost a rank by claiming that he didn’t want me working on him. This was after stating that he had never had a black doctor before. It was apparently a shock to him to find out I was military. Yes, there is racism still alive in the military, it just doesn’t show up as often as my father and grandfather experienced it. The military takes a very strong stance against racism, but some people are just stupid.

[quote]nopal_juventus wrote:
Ok, first of all, my statement about white people was sarcastic. I know that it’s stupid to develop an opinion for the entire white population (or aglos, whatever you want to call them) of the U.S. from one person. Secondly, at least I’m not hypocritical enough to say that I don’t have biases. Everyone does. I do, however, try to either educate myself about the group in question or interact with members of said group in the hopes of erasing said bias. I’d be very surprised if none of you had any predetermined thoughts about any ethnic groups. If you don’t, then I envy you, you’re clearly more objective than me.[/quote]

The problem is that with kids like you it is called ‘bias’. And you can laughingly be sarcastic about your dislikle of a race, then say you were being ‘sarcastic’. If some middle aged white guy from Texas had uttered those same words - he would be a racist. Having a bias is nothing to be proud of. Nor should you get a pat on the back for admitting you have them. Everyone has them. I have not seen anyone on here ever deny that they are not biased.

Tell you what, sparky - when you get a diploma - Ii’ll quit talking down to you. Get a degree, and you might even get some respect from me. As it stands right now, you are an ignorant kid. You can take offense to that all you want, but what you can’t do is deny the fact that it is a true statement. As such - I don’t feel even the least bit compelled to treat you as an adult until you prove that you are. That’s just the way it is.

[quote]nopal_juventus wrote:

For example, when England ocupied India, they were greatly outnumbered. It doesnt matter that they had guns. And look what happend.

I bet if just 50 percent of a population rebelled, the government would crumble.

You seemed to have forgotten that India has close to 1 billion people, whereas England has less than 100,000,000… not to mention that it was an invading force and that it ruled there for a couple of centuries. It’s just so easy to drive people out, isn’t it?

India has nearly 1 billion people. True, but they are poor as hell and they didnt have any type of weapons at all. Not even guns. Do you even know what happened?

The British was the most powerful empire at the time with the most advance army. Without the cooperation of the Indian people, the British simply couldnt impose their will. The fact is, many Indians were mascred and they still didnt stop. How many British were killed? Hmm prolly not that many.

How can a government have a country when there is no one alive to rule?
I am talking about a independent country. Not one country controlling another. How can an entire country be controlled by the goverment?

Its rather simple, brain wash them, terrorise them, or simply the people support it.

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Hiya… just to clarify some details about India and the British Rule… I’m tired of hearing incorrect facts.

India is one of the oldest and richest civilizations in the world. It is home to the world’s first planned cities, where every house had its own bathroom and toilet five thousand years ago. The Ancient Indians have not only given us yoga, meditation and complementary medicines, but they have furthered our knowledge of science, maths - and invented Chaturanga, which became the game of chess.

According to Albert Einstein, they “taught us how to count”, as they invented the numbers 1-9 and ‘zero’, without which there would be no computers or digital age. Unfairly we call this system of counting Arabic numbers - a misplaced credit.

Two thousand years ago the Indians pioneered plastic surgery, reconstructing the noses and ears on the faces of people who had been disfigured through punishment or warfare. They performed eye operations such as cataract removal and invented inoculation to protect their population from Smallpox, saving thousands of lives.

India was one of the first civilizations to successfully extract Iron from ore and they quickly learnt how to cast huge structures with it - some of them surviving. Their metallurgists went on to invent steel which they called Wotz. It would take the British until the 19th century to come up with the same substance.

In 1790 the Indians defeated the British Army in the battle of Pollilur with a secret invention ? the rocket. The British eventually stole the idea and used it against Napoleon’s fleet.

But perhaps the most important invention the Indians have given us is cotton. 3500 years ago whilst we (Europeans) were lumbering around in animal skins and itchy wool they were cultivating a plant and weaving it into a material that would revolutionise Britain. They also pioneered the printing and dyeing of cotton in a staggering array of colours (saree’s) and invented the spinning wheel - something Europe wouldn’t catch up with until the Middle Ages. The mechanisation of this simple device by Hargreaves and Arkwright led to the industrial revolution and turned Britain into a superpower.

They also invented the world’s earliest clock and the constructed the world’s largest Sun dial (in Delhi). India was the most advanced, civilized and richest empire, its culture and diversity attracted many foreign invaders ranging from Alexander the Great to the Turks, Mongols and The British. The only other civilization that was equivalent to the Ancient Indus Valley Civilization of India were the Romans 2000 years later. While Europe was still in the Stone age The Indian, Egyptian, Mesopotamia and Chinese Civilizations were flourishing.

The British presence in India dates back to the early part of the seventeenth century. On 31 December 1600, Elizabeth, then the monarch of the United Kingdom, acceded to the demand of a large body of merchants that a royal charter be given to a new trading company, “The Governor and Company of Merchants of London, Trading into the East-Indies.” Between 1601-13, merchants of the East India Company took twelve voyages to India, and in 1609 William Hawkins arrived at the court of Jahangir to seek permission to establish a British presence in India. Hawkins was rebuffed by Jahangir, but Sir Thomas Roe, who presented himself before the Mughal Emperor in 1617, was rather more successful. Two years later, Roe gained Jahangir’s permission to build a British factory in Surat, and in 1639, this was followed by the founding of Fort St. George (Madras).

British rule in India is conventionally described as having begun in 1757. On June 23rd of that year, at the Battle of Plassey, a small village and mango grove between Calcutta and Murshidabad, the forces of the East India Company under Robert Clive defeated the army of Siraj-ud-daulah, the Nawab of Bengal. Clive won the battle by promoting treason and forgery, British rule in India had an unsavoury beginning and something of that bitter taste has clung to it ever since.

After the 1857 uprising, the British followed Divide and Rule policy. They created a rift between the Hindus and Muslims. By fabricating the Aryan Invasion Theory they tried to create a rift on the basis of Aryans and Dravidians. Britain’s trade policy ruined India’s Cottage industries. The industries, education system and transportation system that developed in India, were according to the British needs.

So to Conclude, The Indians weren’t “Poor as Hell” and did have weapons!!, the only reason why the British were in India for so long was because they created conflicts between the people of different religions and castes, the moment India united (With Gandhi’s help) to fight for freedom they fought a war of Independence and achieved it on August 15th 1947.

The colonial rule in Africa and India exploited the natives and their natural resources. The natives were persecuted and ill ? treated because they were dark skinned. Europeans thought that only they had the right to govern Asia and Africa, because they natives were supposedly “Savages”. Quite Ironic how the British thought of the Indians as Savages, when the English themselves were civilized by the Romans, what’s even more ironic is that the roman’s formed a civilized empire 2000 years after the Indians had!

Sorry for the Long Post!!

Nik

Thanks for backing up my point. Novax was just going on the preconcieved notion that indians are savages.

However, it was actually the mayans that invented the zero. Just wanted to point that out.

The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles.

It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers.

Now, African Americans have done a lot too, in fact Prof X has pointed that out to a lot of us on previous threads. I want to take the time to laugh at the people that X talked about, that couldn’t beleive he was a doctor. I’ve met several over qualified doctors in fact i think the first doctor to perform a open heart surgury was Black. Thanks

What the hell is the point of that post? You can compell a pretty impressive list of achievments of any ethnic gourp.

Thank you again for enlightening us how much the white man has achieved; I’m sure they are the most underrated people on earth.

Yes i know that you can find a huge list of achievements for any ethnic group. I have an inferiority complex, must promote my own agenda. If anybody has other ethnic groups or nationalities achievements they would like to post, lets see em!

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am the youngest doc in the clinic. [/quote]

Out of curiosity, how old are you?

I can see a patient being a little curious when a 25 year old walks into the room, but I dont think you’re 25 judging from your pics.

I think he’s actually a young white 17-year-old computer geek fooling all of us into thinking he’s muscular, black and a doctor.

Just joking Prof.X!!!

Fahd

oh yeah?! well…my great great distant ancestors could beat up your great great distant ancestors!!!

[quote]lumbernac wrote:
The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles.

It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers.

Now, African Americans have done a lot too, in fact Prof X has pointed that out to a lot of us on previous threads. I want to take the time to laugh at the people that X talked about, that couldn’t beleive he was a doctor. I’ve met several over qualified doctors in fact i think the first doctor to perform a open heart surgury was Black. Thanks[/quote]

[quote]redfreddy wrote:
oh yeah?! well…my great great distant ancestors could beat up your great great distant ancestors!!!

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So what? my great great great distant ancestors probably fucked your great great distant ancestors!

Wait… doesn’t that mean they were also my great distant ancestors?

Fahd

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Out of curiosity, how old are you?

I can see a patient being a little curious when a 25 year old walks into the room, but I dont think you’re 25 judging from your pics.[/quote]