That I have to agree. It also taught me not to freak out every time something doesn’t go my way. Even if I have a point, the reckoning comes.
It starts to look silly and petty if you freak out about every little thing Trump does (as it did with Obama); as well as making him look right(er) about the witch hunt. If anything thing will get him re-elected, it’s the opposition.
(Not talking about you Mufasa, you’re a level guy)
WHAT HAVE I DONE! Now that stupid song’s in my head…
Mic Drop!
I’ve got a question for the T Nation and it’s in the understanding that these threads quickly become open arguments but I am seriously curious about the me NK deal. Listening to Mike baker on the JRE podcast today he mentioned how the Obama Iran deal was poor and that trump was right to pull it, as it was unverifiable whether Iran was disarming. This new NK deal seems to be the same but I’ve only seen a quick news clip about it.
Is it different, and if so how? Thanks for your time.
First of all, it’s not a deal. It’s simply a Joint Statement with some extremely vague lofty statements that puts the US and NK on the same footing.
Did you see how much time and effort was put into hammering out the details of the Iran Deal and the provisioning details and how protracted the negotiations were? And a quick meeting, a gut feeling, and a feeling that a mass murderer will hold on to his (alleged) word is supposedly superior.
Edit:
No amount of scepticism or snarkiness from the press was going to dent Trump’s mood. He seemed genuinely unaware that the promises he had received about North Korean denuclearisation had been made, in somewhat firmer language, by Kim’s father and grandfather in earlier decades.
Oh shit! I am making a Trump Pumpkin this year, then I will put it in front of my evil gay neighbor’s house.
For the record, Norse has been from my experience, a pretty liberal guy. We have had some civil conversations about disagreements.
If anybody is driving him into the arms of Trump, it’s you folks berating him. And he doesn’t even sound like a huge Trump supporter, but he can be…
I think it’s kind of funny because I am pretty sure that’s why he won, other than Hillary was pathetic; more pathetic than Trump or any other human.
I saw this with raj (Not comparing you with Raj, just that he used to be liberal and went all in on Trump) and now Norse… Your incessant desire to win at all costs in a forum that doesn’t matter, is actually driving people away in real life. Probably because they see you in others and your judgments which makes them wanna puke… on you.
Norse, if I am wrong, I apologize. It’s just an observation, which contrary to some folks, ahem, is subjective.
For the record, he said something blindly partisan and I specifically took issue with his blindly partisan statement. I’m of the opinion that how partisan our country has become is the single biggest possible change agent of all our country’s issues. I’m not vested in if anyone agrees with me. Plenty of people don’t have an issue with partisan shit.
Agreed
If Norse is driven to Raj level from an anonymous guy on a forum whose opinion he has openly said he doesn’t care about, there was probably never much hope for him (like with Raj).
I don’t really know Norse, but he comes off quite a ways from Raj.
For the record, you’re pretty blindingly partisan too, just on a different side.
Norse is a good guy, I have no issues with him.
I’m alright with that. If I say blindly partisan things feel free to point them out
Nor do I 
No, it would side track the thread again. Don’t worry, it will come up…
Got a sense of that after he said I was the biggest problem in America. I nearly pissed myself. BUT I want to give him and TB the benefit of the doubt and believe they are better than this ridiculously silly exchange.
This is great. You think I’m liberal while @pfury and @thunderbolt23 think I’m a partisan Trumpkin even though I have condemned him multiple times on here and didn’t even vote for him. I must be doing something right.
Not me personally because I don’t know them, nor care but as for people like them pushing others into Trumps arms… Absolutely. The silent majority.
How dare you compare me to Raj, lol. .I have very little desire to win at all costs on an internet forum haha. But I will bury someone if they come at me with complete and utter bullshit and call me the biggest problem with America. Didn’t even have to name call to do it.
Gotta admit I’m confused by the driving people away part, though but that’s ok.
You’re always civil, Pat. Hard to find when discussing politics.
Again… Is thinking Trump deserves the NPP partisan? Or do you think I’m partisan because I don’t give a shit about the feelings of shitty far left liberals like David Hogg? BTW, I’ve used the term far left every time so I’m not talking about all liberals… Now, is everyone partisan based on your earlier definition? Or just people you disagree with?
Alright, plus one for you.
Not IMO.
I think you made a partisan statement.
To some degree? Sure. It’s human nature. But when it crosses into “I want the other guy to suffer when I gain nothing,” that’s when I feel it’s a detriment.
You think people that want to strip gun rights are the biggest problem. I think people who want to see others suffer when they gain nothing are the biggest problem. I’m not sure why my view is blasphemy and yours is gospel…
I never said that.
You are a gentleman, sir.
I don’t think that’s how it works.
I didn’t say that was the biggest problem but yes, lobbying for stripping law abiding citizens of rights and calling them terrorists is a huuuuuge problem. You can say I’m a dick and I’ll probably agree with you but partisan doesn’t apply here. Would you want to see the tiki torch guys cry? What about Richard Spencer? I would. Does that make partisan?
Fair, that was TB but if I’m not a Trumpkin or a republican, what am I partisan about? I’ll admit I’m partisan of seeing shitty people not get what they want.
I’ll take you at your word and that’s ok with me - but one of the problems we do have in this country is that politics anymore (for many) serves no higher purpose than to troll the hated other side. The fact that you were so insistent in seeking “liberal tears” and wanting Trump to win an historic award for its trolling effect on lefties is a perfect example of that awful and stupid trend.
If you’re not across the board like that, that’s fine - but when you are, I’ll have something to say about it. Because it is dumb as Hell and it’s bad for the country.
And this is precisely it. Your stated main enemy are the “gun grabbers” that you want to see cry. That’s ridiculous. They aren’t shitty people. Maybe they have a terrible proposed solution, but they want to solve a real public problem - gun violence. They aren’t acting in bad faith.
Wouldn’t it far better to persuade them why their solution isn’t a good one rather than hope they simply get upset by someone who “destroys” them?
Sure it is. Nobody is incapable of seeing even small amounts of reason with the opposing side. Shit even Zeb would acknowledge certain aspects, and if he’s not mostly partisan idk who is.
I don’t think you’re a dick. I think some of the “options” coming out irt gun control are serious garbage. I’m not opposed to the 2A at all personally, I just draw the line differently on acceptable arms.
I think by nature of the first one being specifically about a political thing is what makes it partisan.
Seriously though, if the only difference here is that we disagree with what partisan means let’s just pretend I called you a dick instead.
You kinda answered your own question here.
Quoting for having a better way with words.
Alright, this my last exchange today.
I truly believe Trump deserves the NPP and at the same time, I don’t give two shits about the David Hoggs of this world. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. That’s not trolling. Stop thinking you’re the moral compass of America. Exhibit A…
Thanks for your approval oh great one.
If I said the only reason I want Trump to get the NPP or to succeed in anything for that matter, is to make liberals cry, you would have a point. That’s not what I’m doing or saying. I repeatedly said FAR LEFT. You keep misquoting me and saying liberals. Not what I said. I don’t hate liberals.
Again, not what I said. My example was David Hogg. Not all gun grabbers call you a terrorist and say fuck you. Not all gun grabbers are far left . Yes, he is a shitty person.
Yup. Both can happen. I don’t want to see that little shit get his way and many have tried to persuade him to no avail. I don’t care about his feelings. NRA memberships sky rocketing after he called them terrorists gives me joy.
Not sure what you mean here… Would you or would you not want to see them cry? What about Alex Jones?
Well you said I was the biggest problem with America and you won’t explain to me what is partisan about saying I want to see far left liberal tears. I don’t want to see your tears and I assume you are a liberal. So yes, maybe you aren’t sure what partisan is and we can just agree I’m a dick:)
Yup, I don’t think partisan means what you think it means. I was being facetious. Who on this planet wants to see shitty people get what they want?
Just be honest. You thought I was a giant Trump supporter and pounced when you saw you’re chance. Sounds partisan to me;)
For real , though. No hard feelings here. It’s all good. Let’s move on.