Hey everybody,
This is my first post here… I am posting for help on my first cycle which is listed at the bottom of the post… here is some background information to start:
I have been lifting for five years now and feel i have come a very long way… starting at 143lbs and currently at 196 lbs. My diet has been on point since i have started training seriously. It currently is this:
Meal 1: 6 egg whites 2 whole eggs 1.5 cup raw oats in water
meal 2: 1 scoop whey isolate mixed with 1/4 cup raw oats
meal 3: 8oz chicken breast 1/2 cup brown rice
meal 4: (pre workout meal) same as meal 2
meal 5: post workout shake (2 scoops whey 1 cup raw oats 5g creatine mono 12oz gatorade)
meal 6: 8oz 95%lean ground beef or chicken breast 1 swt potato, green vegetable
meal 7: (hour before bed) 1.5 low fat cottage cheese or sometimes a few eggs
Now with the diet covered i currently train 5 times a week. It will usually look something like this:
mon: legs
tues: chest/back
wed: arms/shoulders
thurs: rest or abs cardio
fri: legs
sat: upper body brush up
sun: rest or abs cardio
Supplementation: i have been taking supplements for years now… currently my supplement stack looks like this:
multi,fishoil,dpol(daa+arganine),ZMA,vitamin c,vitamin d, and pantothenic acid to help dry out skin
Okay now to the big news:
I feel i have taken my body very far being all natural and have been working my ass off for 5 years between diet,rest, and training… i am getting to the point where i feel i want to take my body to another level. With this said i am considering taking my firt Test E cycle. I would like some advice and have done my research and have come up with a cycle that i would like some quality input becuase i would like to do this the safest way possible without too terrible of side effects(am prone to acne and gyno).
Well here it is:
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg once a week(just want to see how it will react with my body)
W 3-10 HCG 250 iu 3x/per week
w 13 40mg nolvadex 50mg clomid
w 14 40mg nolvadex 50mg clomid
w 15 20mg nolvadex 50mg clomid
w 16 20mg nolvadex 50mg clomid
Thankyou everyone for taking the time to read this… Serious advice is well needed so i can execute this correctly.
Congratulations on your progress. I think most will say up the Test dose. 250mg/week is high level TRT and the results could not be worth the shutdown. And, whatever dose you decide to use, spread it into two pins per weeks, not just one. This will result in more stable levels, which is better.
HCG use looks reasonable.
PCT looks standard although some say there’s no point in using two SERMs and that Nolvadex at those doses will be all you need. Some experience estrogen-related side effects from Clomid.
If you are looking to minimize estrogen-related side effects (acne, gyno, water retention) you could add an aromataze inhibitor such as Arimidex from week 1 to 10 and another AI for PCT (weeks 13-16). For this, Aromasin would be best since it doesn’t interact with the SERMs like the others do.
The only thing I would change is make your test dose 500mg/wk minimum. Im currently in the middle of my first cycle and am doing 750mg/wk. However the only reason I am doing this instead of 500mg/wk is because I believe my gear is underdosed. Everything else looks good to me though. I also started out at a weight similar to yours and got up to 190lbs before deciding to cycle, also in a span of 5 years lol. Progress comes slow for sure. Good luck
[quote]eaboadar wrote:
Congratulations on your progress. I think most will say up the Test dose. 250mg/week is high level TRT and the results could not be worth the shutdown. And, whatever dose you decide to use, spread it into two pins per weeks, not just one. This will result in more stable levels, which is better.
HCG use looks reasonable.
PCT looks standard although some say there’s no point in using two SERMs and that Nolvadex at those doses will be all you need. Some experience estrogen-related side effects from Clomid.
If you are looking to minimize estrogen-related side effects (acne, gyno, water retention) you could add an aromataze inhibitor such as Arimidex from week 1 to 10 and another AI for PCT (weeks 13-16). For this, Aromasin would be best since it doesn’t interact with the SERMs like the others do.
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Thankyou very much everybody for the positive feedback. i have decided i am going to up the dose on the test to 500mg/wk. Also i am going to get rid of the clomid and just use nolva in the PCT with Aromasin. My updated cycle will now look like this:
W 1-10 Test Enth 500mg (250mg Tues 250mg Fri)
Arimidex 0.25-0.5 EOD depending on how im feeling
W 3-10 HCG 750 iu (250iu Mon 250iu Wed 250iu Sat)
W 13 40mg Nolvadex ED
W 14 40mg Nolvadex ED
W 15 20mg Nolvadex ED
W 16 20mg Nolvadex ED
W 13-16 Aromasin 20mg ED
Everything looks good. Most time I see people doing HCG at 500iu per week though, doing 250iu same day as your injection days. I guess you could do 750iu a week though. May be a little excessive, but I dont know enough about it to actually give you a definite answer on that. Just going off of what Ive seen most.
[quote]eaboadar wrote:
Congratulations on your progress. I think most will say up the Test dose. 250mg/week is high level TRT and the results could not be worth the shutdown. And, whatever dose you decide to use, spread it into two pins per weeks, not just one. This will result in more stable levels, which is better.
HCG use looks reasonable.
PCT looks standard although some say there’s no point in using two SERMs and that Nolvadex at those doses will be all you need. Some experience estrogen-related side effects from Clomid.
If you are looking to minimize estrogen-related side effects (acne, gyno, water retention) you could add an aromataze inhibitor such as Arimidex from week 1 to 10 and another AI for PCT (weeks 13-16). For this, Aromasin would be best since it doesn’t interact with the SERMs like the others do.
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Thankyou very much everybody for the positive feedback. i have decided i am going to up the dose on the test to 500mg/wk. Also i am going to get rid of the clomid and just use nolva in the PCT with Aromasin. My updated cycle will now look like this:
W 1-10 Test Enth 500mg (250mg Tues 250mg Fri)
Arimidex 0.25-0.5 EOD depending on how im feeling
W 3-10 HCG 750 iu (250iu Mon 250iu Wed 250iu Sat)
W 13 40mg Nolvadex ED
W 14 40mg Nolvadex ED
W 15 20mg Nolvadex ED
W 16 20mg Nolvadex ED
W 13-16 Aromasin 20mg ED
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Solid. Be sure to log on your results. Also, I think it’s a good idea to get some blood tests done before you start so that you can get an idea of how your levels are in a normal state. This will be useful both during the cycle and afterward to make sure you recovery is successful.