Please Help (Prohormone Stupidity!)

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Ok everyone,

Let me first begin by saying, I AM AN IDIOT FOR NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WHO TOLD ME NOT TO TAKE PRO-HORMONES.

Now that i got that taken care of anyone who responds to this post does not have to flame at me. I have learned my lesson the hard way and now i need some help.

Can some people please answer a few questions of mine!! i Greatly need advice/answers.

#1 I took 1-ad and 4-ad around 600mg a day as the bottle suggested. After 3 weeks i noticed i had completely lost my libido and this freaked me out so i stopped taking them completely 4 days ago. I have been taking the anti-estrogen provided by the company (which i know is a good one) and i have regained me sex drive.

NOW THE PROBLEM- I figured “hey im horny again so i can go have sex with my girlfriend” so i start to get going and I CANT BECOME ERECT! i have a large limp penus and no matter how i try and become “hard” i just cannot. This has never happened to me in my life and i hoped it wouldnt until i became a middle aged man. I am 18 years old and ive never been this freaked out in my life. can anyone please tell me if this problem is normal and if i will regain normal function of my penus. All i can say for those who posted and told me not to take them is NOW I KNOW Y!!!

everyone who reads this beware… But in the meantime can someone please help me! im so desperate. do i need to go see a doctor or is there anything over the counter i can buy to help me become erect? the problem isnt becomeing aroused i am very horny. I just cant get hard. Please and thanks guys.

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take some trib, wait, and pray

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Also a second question…

Im also taking an ephedra (thermogenic) style stack and creatine supplements. I was just curious, and please only answer if you know for sure, if ephedra or creatine can have negative side effects on erections.

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[quote]drj128 wrote:
Ok everyone,

Let me first begin by saying, I AM AN IDIOT FOR NOT LISTENING TO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE WHO TOLD ME NOT TO TAKE PRO-HORMONES.

Now that i got that taken care of anyone who responds to this post does not have to flame at me. I have learned my lesson the hard way and now i need some help.

Can some people please answer a few questions of mine!! i Greatly need advice/answers.

#1 I took 1-ad and 4-ad around 600mg a day as the bottle suggested. After 3 weeks i noticed i had completely lost my libido and this freaked me out so i stopped taking them completely 4 days ago. I have been taking the anti-estrogen provided by the company (which i know is a good one) and i have regained me sex drive.

NOW THE PROBLEM- I figured “hey im horny again so i can go have sex with my girlfriend” so i start to get going and I CANT BECOME ERECT! i have a large limp penus and no matter how i try and become “hard” i just cannot. This has never happened to me in my life and i hoped it wouldnt until i became a middle aged man. I am 18 years old and ive never been this freaked out in my life. can anyone please tell me if this problem is normal and if i will regain normal function of my penus. All i can say for those who posted and told me not to take them is NOW I KNOW Y!!! everyone who reads this beware… But in the meantime can someone please help me! im so desperate. do i need to go see a doctor or is there anything over the counter i can buy to help me become erect? the problem isnt becomeing aroused i am very horny. I just cant get hard. Please and thanks guys.[/quote]

You’re probably just gay. The only way to find out is to go to get some REAL pct (tamoxifen citrate) and take 30 mg ED for 3-6 weeks and taper off towards the end.

I really do want to say one thing though… You are an idiot for taking the “anti-e” that you “know is good.” Get a brain.

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Yes, Ephedra, or any stimulants for that matter, can have a negative impact on erections. When you increase blood pressure (which all stimulants do) you make it harder to get the old boy to stand up.

That being said, my best advice is to get ahold of some Nolva, run it for about 2 weeks, stop the AI and the stimulant, maybe take some TRIBEX, and like playmaker said: pray.

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I would stop the ephedra. The creatine is fine.

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Er he has a limp dick
To be honest GET OFF EVERY SINGLE DRUG EVEN CREATINE GET OFF IT.
Your body is being abused to high hell and your giving it MORE WORK.
Why your horny BUT cant get erect is simple.

From John Berardi The Big T Article:
Why they get so aroused. Well gents, the body is fighting to maintain Testosterone homeostasis. As a result, high amounts of LH are released in order to bring T levels back to normal. As mentioned earlier, LH is correlated more with arousal than T, so that’s why you get horny, you dogs.

So basically your body is trying its damnest to get back to normal t levels or homeostasis (normal) so tribulex which increases LH i doubt would work, seems your LH is already through the roof.
So heres your options:

1)Go to the Doc tell him what happened ask for test replacement Would be the fastest way to get it back, he may yell and scream but live with it.

2)Buy Alpha Male from here just PLEASE do it NOW

3)NO DRINK, ASPIRIN, MARIJUANA, CODIENE, OPIOIDS (morphone, heroin. According to Berardi they all lower T
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=460895

That off the top of my head are your options in decreasing order. Do 1 now more than tomorrow, obviously the doc is your fastest route. In ireland they tend to want to fix you up, dont know about yours.

No. 3 do not INGEST ANY OF THOSE leave your body alone ! read that article heres part 1
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=460554

Best of luck with it, at your age what in gods name possessed you to do pro hormones, but you made your mistake dount you will be in a hurry to do another.

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So, no SERM on hand and you’re only 18?

And you’re telling people to beware of prohormones? More like beware of your own stupidity for not researching first and for using so young…but of course you blame the drug and not your foolishness.

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Usertaken, you’re telling him to take test? Are you a fucking retard? Test will just shut him down harder. While the TRIBEX might not be a bad idea, the test is a HORRIBLE idea.

Seriously man, a SERM, some tribulus, and some luck is what you need right now. Don’t start taking test, you’re just going to shut yourself down even harder.

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to second what everybody has said, stop everything you are taken, run down to the health shop and grab some hawthorn berry extract, this will lower your blood pressure and improve circulation. I would also reccomend grabbing some milk thistle capsules to go along with the tamoxifen that you need to buy.

Keep the sugar and salt levels in your diet low for a while and maked sure you are etting an increased amount of omega 3, from fish and supplements to - you can buy Biotest’s Flameout from this site which is awsome. hope this helps and best of luck.

side note: anyone think i’ll get a free case for that little plug ha ha

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DrGay,

I was rereading through this thread and I noticed something… The posters have used three words to describe one thing. I can see how it might have confused someone such as yourself…

I wrote “tamoxifen citrate.” Tamoxifen citrate is the same thing as Nolvadex and tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) is a SERM or Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator. It’s the one drug you need to get your pecker working again. You’re welcome.

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[quote]Diana Bolann wrote:
DrGay,

I was rereading through this thread and I noticed something… The posters have used three words to describe one thing. I can see how it might have confused someone such as yourself…

I wrote “tamoxifen citrate.” Tamoxifen citrate is the same thing as Nolvadex and tamoxifen citrate (Nolvadex) is a SERM or Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator. It’s the one drug you need to get your pecker working again. You’re welcome.[/quote]

Total hijack here: What happened to your german shepherd DB? Did he run away?

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Isnt nolva selective for breast tissue? If so how is that going to help this guy get it up?

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[quote]5.0 wrote:

Total hijack here: What happened to your german shepherd DB? Did he run away?[/quote]

He’s ok. He’s on my desktop and he may come back.

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[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
Isnt nolva selective for breast tissue? If so how is that going to help this guy get it up?[/quote]

Don’t know how it works but it does. This is actually common knowledge. You have heard of PCT haven’t you?

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[quote]playmaker08 wrote:
Isnt nolva selective for breast tissue? If so how is that going to help this guy get it up?[/quote]

It is selective, but more in the sense that it does not work equally on all tissues rather than effecting only one tissue.

It does blind the hypothalamus-pituitary to E levels that then increases LH and T. Increased T leads to more T–>E aromatization in the body and higher ITT, intratesticular testosterone levels drive higher amounts of T–>E production in the testes, leading to increased serum E levels. For this reason, one needs to taper off of SERMs as an abrupt stop would expose the hypothalamus-pituitary to the elevated E levels and an estrogen rebound effect oppressively will hit the HPTA.

SERMs are estrogen like chemicals and these do have some estrogenic sides. Clomid will make some guys emotional… working out in the gym and crying watching a chick flick. Clomid also effects the seminal vessels and probably the prostate as many have reported “shooting bigger loads” when on clomid. Novla does not seem to have these effects and is considered better overall by some.

SERMs are not healthy for longer term use. The AI anastrozole can be used long term and has no [known] side effects. There can be side effects from pushing E too low, but that is from an incorrect dose and those ‘sides’ are not directly from anstrozole.