'Please Don't Get Too Big'

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
martin blank wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
martin blank wrote:
so_caught_up wrote:
I have a friend that is 5’6 and 225…he looks retarded…and he is obsessed with getting bigger.

Just as long as you keep things in perspective and don’t have issues with bigism…like the opposite of anorexia…

Wrong board dude.

not really. most people are sick of the 300 pound + mass monster physiques that have dominated for the last 10 years. people are more in favor of a balanced out physique. no one is by any means saying you should look like an Abercrombie model, we’re all after the same goal of being standout big but i definately think theres a line.

My issue is with ‘bigism’. First, I doubt its existence (barring something like the Greg Valentino), and second, I don’t think many here have it or should fear ‘catching’ it.

The thing I like most about this board is an overall attitude that you can basically never be too big or too strong.

well i disagree and i think it is possible to get “too big”. difference is 90% of people dont achieve it. there arent many gym rats the size of Ronnie Coleman, ok theres zero but whether or not you can only get to his size with enough drugs to start a Panzer tank it doesnt take away from the fact that there is a size that is “too big”.

i think that maybe once you start focusins solely on getting bigger and let it take over your life completely to the point where you dont socialize or do anything else productive except train and eat you have a problem.

even pro-BBers say they dont spend that much time in the gym because they have families, jobs, friends etc.
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I get what you’re saying, I just don’t think there’s very many people out there like that. I admit I could be wrong.

I think there are far more people that come here who wish they were bigger than they were and try to work these things into their life without being crazy.

I mean, is where is the line? I can’t work out at the exact same time every scheduled day, but my wife knows I will get it in at some point and we work around that-

I don’t think I’m really even arguing with you, except that I don’t think there’s very many (if any) people with ‘bigorexia’. I do believe thre are several on here that work very hard on their diet and training and that’s why I like to read stuff on this board.

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[quote]martin blank wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
martin blank wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
martin blank wrote:
so_caught_up wrote:
I have a friend that is 5’6 and 225…he looks retarded…and he is obsessed with getting bigger.

Just as long as you keep things in perspective and don’t have issues with bigism…like the opposite of anorexia…

Wrong board dude.

not really. most people are sick of the 300 pound + mass monster physiques that have dominated for the last 10 years. people are more in favor of a balanced out physique. no one is by any means saying you should look like an Abercrombie model, we’re all after the same goal of being standout big but i definately think theres a line.

My issue is with ‘bigism’. First, I doubt its existence (barring something like the Greg Valentino), and second, I don’t think many here have it or should fear ‘catching’ it.

The thing I like most about this board is an overall attitude that you can basically never be too big or too strong.

well i disagree and i think it is possible to get “too big”. difference is 90% of people dont achieve it. there arent many gym rats the size of Ronnie Coleman, ok theres zero but whether or not you can only get to his size with enough drugs to start a Panzer tank it doesnt take away from the fact that there is a size that is “too big”.

i think that maybe once you start focusins solely on getting bigger and let it take over your life completely to the point where you dont socialize or do anything else productive except train and eat you have a problem.

even pro-BBers say they dont spend that much time in the gym because they have families, jobs, friends etc.

I get what you’re saying, I just don’t think there’s very many people out there like that. I admit I could be wrong.

I think there are far more people that come here who wish they were bigger than they were and try to work these things into their life without being crazy.

I mean, is where is the line? I can’t work out at the exact same time every scheduled day, but my wife knows I will get it in at some point and we work around that-

I don’t think I’m really even arguing with you, except that I don’t think there’s very many (if any) people with ‘bigorexia’. I do believe thre are several on here that work very hard on their diet and training and that’s why I like to read stuff on this board.

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yeah i hear you. ive talked to people who were 150 and claimed to be bigorexic (seriously). i really think it gets thrown around because when youre already bigger than most people the average joe is gonna say, wtf you want to be BIGGER? and its like yea, it gives me something to do, something to work for, its challenging but rewarding. when i saw Lee Priest say he thought he looked like Daffy Duck as opposed to He-Man it was kind of creepy though. i think even if you want to be bigger you should be able to acknowledge your size especially in comparison to the average. i mean face it, everyone is typically overweight or underweight. even when i weighed 170 people thought i was jacked, dead serious but im at 205 now and still dont think im that big. i mean im aware that people are going to recognize my size as one of the first things about me but i have higher ambitions than just this.

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
I don’t want to have someone walk up to me and say, “please don’t get too big”.

I want zookeepers to run after me in the street shooting tranquilizer darts.

I want young Japanese women to shout “GOJIRA” every time I wear a green shirt and faint dead away.

When I got to the beach, I want passerby to ask each other who shaved that gorilla.

Yeah.[/quote]

back when i was training to work at Ballys we did this thing were we paired up and trained each other. the person was training me and had me do RDLs. i put 315 on it with no warmup and banged out 6 and all hyped up and said “i want children to run away crying when i walk down the street” or something to that effect. it was a good time.

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The worst “don’t get too big”-comment I’ve heard was the mother of a buddy of mine, telling her 160lb son not to get any bigger… “Look at your arms!!”.

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I had no idea that the ‘please don’t get too big’ comment is so common. Great input from everyone!

What gets me is that it seems that the majority of these comments are coming from parents, particularly mothers. I can’t understand why a parent would want their child to strive for mediocrity, to be happy with their child being average, and go so far as in some of the posts i read to chastise and demean their child for trying to break out of the norm and separate themselves developmentally from the pack of fat slobs and weak men that is the majority of our society. Freakin haters…

Also, I think that there is no such thing as ‘bigism’ or ‘reverse anorexia’ or whatever the term is. I think that this term is something that normal non-gym going folk theorized in an attempt to explain the mindset of people like us, people who put alot of effort into getting bigger and more muscular. Just my two cents.

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[quote]Big Aristotle wrote:
I had no idea that the ‘please don’t get too big’ comment is so common. Great input from everyone!

What gets me is that it seems that the majority of these comments are coming from parents, particularly mothers. I can’t understand why a parent would want their child to strive for mediocrity, to be happy with their child being average, and go so far as in some of the posts i read to chastise and demean their child for trying to break out of the norm and separate themselves developmentally from the pack of fat slobs and weak men that is the majority of our society. Freakin haters…

Also, I think that there is no such thing as ‘bigism’ or ‘reverse anorexia’ or whatever the term is. I think that this term is something that normal non-gym going folk theorized in an attempt to explain the mindset of people like us, people who put alot of effort into getting bigger and more muscular. Just my two cents. [/quote]

I agree. Unless you are quitting your job and living like a hermit just so you can lift weights, I would be very careful about throwing “bigorexia” at everyone who is simply bigger than what may be deemed “normal”.

I also avoid telling people I want to get bigger. I already know the response I would get. In fact, I try to avoid discussing lifting weights outside of the gym even though it comes up often no matter what.

The bottom line is, walking around with arms as big as some people’s legs is going to bring a hell of a lot of attention. If you think you can look like that and not have people either talk about you or say dumb shit to on a regular basis, you are mistaken.

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I get this a lot from my parents too, I just sort of take it in stride. Its especially annoying though whenever the ENTIRE family gets together and I have to hear crap from my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.

I am not satisfied in any shape, way, or form and I am almost 265 now. I know some of you guys are against getting “too big”, but hell I hope to one day,(come on genetics!) be Ronnie’s size, or bigger. If thats even possible.

I would also like to note that I have gotten some of the same comments from retired competitive bodybuilders. Not about me being too big, but about the consequences later in life of taking this route. A good friend of my uncle’s that I get to talk to every now and then, won the Mr. New Orleans contest in the 80’s. (He’s been done BBing for like 25 years and is still massive) and he tells me how he has to get both shoulders replaced and has to deal with other various injuries. He said it was one of the greatest times of his life, but doesn’t think it’s worth it for what he has to go through now. Just some food for thought.

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It all comes down to bodyfat percentage. I could care less about the number on the weight scale, but if your over 20% bodyfat your too big. And that’s coming from a guy that was 6’3 265 10%.

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Back in the day my mom would accuse me of taking roids and being selfish then would tell me my calves were pathetic just to fuck with me. I have recently lost weight to take some of the load off my joints and when people see my now skinnier face they get all concerned. It’s kewl getting attention and the older I get the smaller the pond.

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People don’t like others showing them up, plain and simple. Not to say you’re Mom is jealous of your sick quad development, but you know what I mean. Some of my colleagues stopped asking me out to lunch years ago as my choice of entree always made them feel self-conscious and uncomfortable.

Most people see the writing on the wall, and are cognizant of their present state, but it’s easier to talk shit than hit the gym.

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Is it bad that I would LOVE to do that? As long as I had money for food and Internet, anyway…

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
Unless you are quitting your job and living like a hermit just so you can lift weights

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Is it bad that I would LOVE to do that? As long as I had money for food and Internet, anyway…[/quote]

Even doing that could be an optimal lifestyle to someone…which is why throwing that term around doesn’t fit in most cases unless the lifter is actually doing real harm to himself or others.

I have no doubt some people would call me “obsessed”. I also wouldn’t change that about myself in anyway what-so-ever.

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[quote]Big Aristotle wrote:
I had no idea that the ‘please don’t get too big’ comment is so common. Great input from everyone!

What gets me is that it seems that the majority of these comments are coming from parents, particularly mothers. I can’t understand why a parent would want their child to strive for mediocrity,

To be happy with their child being average, and go so far as in some of the posts i read to chastise and demean their child for trying to break out of the norm and separate themselves developmentally from the pack of fat slobs and weak men that is the majority of our society. Freakin haters…

Also, I think that there is no such thing as ‘bigism’ or ‘reverse anorexia’ or whatever the term is. I think that this term is something that normal non-gym going folk theorized in an attempt to explain the mindset of people like us, people who put alot of effort into getting bigger and more muscular. Just my two cents. [/quote]

i think its because mothers just worry, day in and out its what they do. usually about the most trivial things too. anyway they probaly saw a couple Flex magazines with a guy having leg veins that look like a bunch of jumbled N64 controllers and thought OH NO THAT WILL BE MY SON.

dude my mom still tells me to make sure i wear a jacket if it its 20 degrees below zero out…like i would be walking for 15 minutes before i realized i needed a jacket.

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Just one more reason to put on mass…

#124) Your mother hates it.

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I think part of the reason that mothers make so many comments is because it kind of hurts to see your kids grow up. On one hand you’re proud of them but then on the other you feel kind of useless.

My husband’s mother is unfit, to say the least, and I’ve been helping raise his younger brother since the kid was nine. We’ve had fulltime custody of him since he was a short, pudgy little 13 year old.

He’s 18 now, he’s grown more than half a foot taller and filled out. He’s a man now and I don’t like it. That’s completely irrational and I realize that, but it’s not a feeling I can really explain.

I’m proud of the adult that he’s become and of the role that I played in that but I do worry about him, and I have to remind myself (often) that he’s not a little kid anymore and I need to respect that he’s old enough to make his own decisions.

I think the moms who make comments really do care, it’s just difficult to see their little boys grow up and become huge, muscular men.

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[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
I think part of the reason that mothers make so many comments is because it kind of hurts to see your kids grow up. On one hand you’re proud of them but then on the other you feel kind of useless.

My husband’s mother is unfit, to say the least, and I’ve been helping raise his younger brother since the kid was nine. We’ve had fulltime custody of him since he was a short, pudgy little 13 year old.

He’s 18 now, he’s grown more than half a foot taller and filled out. He’s a man now and I don’t like it. That’s completely irrational and I realize that, but it’s not a feeling I can really explain.

I’m proud of the adult that he’s become and of the role that I played in that but I do worry about him, and I have to remind myself (often) that he’s not a little kid anymore and I need to respect that he’s old enough to make his own decisions.

I think the moms who make comments really do care, it’s just difficult to see their little boys grow up and become huge, muscular men.[/quote]

Interesting and well said, can’t say that I agree 100% but I never thought of that side of it before.

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[quote]WS4JB wrote:
How bout this.

Ive leaned up a little bit since I moved out from living with the parents, walking around a college campus and paying your own food bill will do that I guess.

Well my mom, sister, and dad all told me that i should add some more mass, because at 5"10 and 185 i look too small, they all think i should be up above 205 to look good on my frame.

So i asked them to write me a check for more groceries when I left to drive home, and they were all for it.

Guess Im just lucky.[/quote]

Asshole. :wink:

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[quote]LUEshi wrote:
Unless you are quitting your job and living like a hermit just so you can lift weights

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Is it bad that I would LOVE to do that? As long as I had money for food and Internet, anyway…[/quote]

No it’s NOT BAD, just depending on your sistuation (ie: if your raising a family, or something with responsibilities)

I’m doing that right now because I just got laid off, and job hunting is hard as hell in the bay area…

Good thing I got money :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
I think part of the reason that mothers make so many comments is because it kind of hurts to see your kids grow up. On one hand you’re proud of them but then on the other you feel kind of useless.

My husband’s mother is unfit, to say the least, and I’ve been helping raise his younger brother since the kid was nine. We’ve had fulltime custody of him since he was a short, pudgy little 13 year old.

He’s 18 now, he’s grown more than half a foot taller and filled out. He’s a man now and I don’t like it. That’s completely irrational and I realize that, but it’s not a feeling I can really explain.

I’m proud of the adult that he’s become and of the role that I played in that but I do worry about him, and I have to remind myself (often) that he’s not a little kid anymore and I need to respect that he’s old enough to make his own decisions.

I think the moms who make comments really do care, it’s just difficult to see their little boys grow up and become huge, muscular men.[/quote]

Yeah I agree with you a lot. It drives me up the wall when my mom does this kind of stuff to me (still!), but I recognize her motives, and she’s always been willing to help in the past, so it makes me feel like she still loves me. Duh!

She always does of course, and I know that :slight_smile: , but it’s sort of an understanding that I’ve come to. Not to say it doesn’t drive me absolutely crazy when she reminds me for the nth time that … but I know she feels this way so I try not to cause her too much trouble.

I think the motives of people who are non-family are a lot more frustrating in general, because they’re more likely (in my experience) to be the toxic kind of people that don’t want you to show them up.

I have no doubt there are a lot of families out there like that too, just in my case I recognize that it’s mis-placed care for me. They don’t understand, but they’re just going with what they know.

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[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:
I think part of the reason that mothers make so many comments is because it kind of hurts to see your kids grow up. On one hand you’re proud of them but then on the other you feel kind of useless.

My husband’s mother is unfit, to say the least, and I’ve been helping raise his younger brother since the kid was nine. We’ve had fulltime custody of him since he was a short, pudgy little 13 year old.

He’s 18 now, he’s grown more than half a foot taller and filled out. He’s a man now and I don’t like it. That’s completely irrational and I realize that, but it’s not a feeling I can really explain.

I’m proud of the adult that he’s become and of the role that I played in that but I do worry about him, and I have to remind myself (often) that he’s not a little kid anymore and I need to respect that he’s old enough to make his own decisions.

I think the moms who make comments really do care, it’s just difficult to see their little boys grow up and become huge, muscular men.[/quote]

I also think it might be because some mothers really beleive the steriotypes. They think if their son gets big and ripped that it will go to their head and they will become arrogant, rude and full of themselves.
Also some people really do think that its an unhealthy lifestyle :stuck_out_tongue: