Please Critique My Routine

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[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:

the op, whos named weak guy, mentioned that he wants to get stronger.

you cant equate gaining strength with utilizing simple isolation exercises… such as bicep curls (for beginners). am i opposed to curling? nah, but the op specifically stated that hes weak and needed some critiquing on his aforementioned routine.

however, like zephead mentioned, if the op is doing his rows and chins, curls could and would be supplemental. kinda hypocritical. but in conclusion, do your compounds before isolation.
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You have several issues.

  1. You are apparently blind. Nobody said not to do compound movements.

  2. You get bigger by getting stronger in the hypertrophy rep-ranges on all your exercises and eating a ton. Since when can one not get stronger on curls/through curls? Do you lift the same weight session after session?

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
ZeusNathan wrote:

the op, whos named weak guy, mentioned that he wants to get stronger.

you cant equate gaining strength with utilizing simple isolation exercises… such as bicep curls (for beginners). am i opposed to curling? nah, but the op specifically stated that hes weak and needed some critiquing on his aforementioned routine.

however, like zephead mentioned, if the op is doing his rows and chins, curls could and would be supplemental. kinda hypocritical. but in conclusion, do your compounds before isolation.

You have several issues.

  1. You are apparently blind. Nobody said not to do compound movements.

  2. You get bigger by getting stronger in the hypertrophy rep-ranges on all your exercises and eating a ton. Since when can one not get stronger on curls/through curls? Do you lift the same weight session after session?

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read my entry again and you’ll find…

“however, like zephead mentioned, if the op is doing his rows and chins, curls COULD and WOULD be supplemental.”

and i absolutely use the same weights all the time.
its once i feel that they become easier that i up the volume… then perhaps go for a PR.

you’re taking a simple question and blowing it out of proportion.
and no, a newb should not do curls to gain overall strength.
they can, if they want, but they really dont need to.

its about preference really. the story you mentioned about the dude with 17 inch arms and never works arms… i bet you he can curl almost, if not more than the guys who spend more time on their arms.

same situation for me personally. i didnt start doing curls or extensions until may… just for the sake of a better beach body. and although i wasn’t doing curls, i would easily keep up with friends that have been working arms for months.

its all about the pull ups and rows baby.

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hows this for a routine everything twice a week except quads

monday-back biceps

deadlift
bent over row
t bar row
dumbell row
barbell curl
close grip barbell curl

tuesday- chest triceps

flat bench press
incline bench press
decline bench press
dips
bench to bench dips

wednesday- quads hamstrings

squat
hack squat
close feet leg press
stiff leg deadlift
leg curl

thursday- chest delts

flat dumbell press
incline dumbell press
decline dumbell press
standing military press
seated db shoulder press

friday- back hamstrings

bent over row
cable row
pull ups
pulldowns
stiff leg deadlift
high foot leg press

saturday- delts traps

seated db press
arnold press
side laterals
db shrug
barbell shrug
behind barbell shrug

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[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
ZeusNathan wrote:

the op, whos named weak guy, mentioned that he wants to get stronger.

you cant equate gaining strength with utilizing simple isolation exercises… such as bicep curls (for beginners). am i opposed to curling? nah, but the op specifically stated that hes weak and needed some critiquing on his aforementioned routine.

however, like zephead mentioned, if the op is doing his rows and chins, curls could and would be supplemental. kinda hypocritical. but in conclusion, do your compounds before isolation.

You have several issues.

  1. You are apparently blind. Nobody said not to do compound movements.

  2. You get bigger by getting stronger in the hypertrophy rep-ranges on all your exercises and eating a ton. Since when can one not get stronger on curls/through curls? Do you lift the same weight session after session?

read my entry again and you’ll find…

“however, like zephead mentioned, if the op is doing his rows and chins, curls COULD and WOULD be supplemental.”

and i absolutely use the same weights all the time.
its once i feel that they become easier that i up the volume… then perhaps go for a PR.

you’re taking a simple question and blowing it out of proportion.
and no, a newb should not do curls to gain overall strength.
they can, if they want, but they really dont need to.

its about preference really. the story you mentioned about the dude with 17 inch arms and never works arms… i bet you he can curl almost, if not more than the guys who spend more time on their arms.

same situation for me personally. i didnt start doing curls or extensions until may… just for the sake of a better beach body. and although i wasn’t doing curls, i would easily keep up with friends that have been working arms for months.

its all about the pull ups and rows baby.

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Ah, now I know how you got those massive arms.
I gotta try that immediately…

/sarcasm

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[quote]sid132 wrote:
hows this for a routine everything twice a week except quads

monday-back biceps

deadlift
bent over row
t bar row
dumbell row
barbell curl
close grip barbell curl

tuesday- chest triceps

flat bench press
incline bench press
decline bench press
dips
bench to bench dips

wednesday- quads hamstrings

squat
hack squat
close feet leg press
stiff leg deadlift
leg curl

thursday- chest delts

flat dumbell press
incline dumbell press
decline dumbell press
standing military press
seated db shoulder press

friday- back hamstrings

bent over row
cable row
pull ups
pulldowns
stiff leg deadlift
high foot leg press

saturday- delts traps

seated db press
arnold press
side laterals
db shrug
barbell shrug
behind barbell shrug [/quote]

you’ll get burnt out half way into second week

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monday
wednesday
fridat split a little bit better then?
something like this

deadlift
bent over barbell row
t bar row
pull ups
stiff leg deadlift
leg curl
leg press calve raises

bench press
decline bench press
incline bench press
dips
standing push press
seated dumbell shoulder press
leg press calve raises

squat
front squat
leg press
stiff leg deadlift
leg curl
leg press calve raises

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How do you have the energy to do that many exercises each workout?

How many quality sets do you think you can perform for each of those exercises?

Why do you think you need that many exercises and the redundancy of hitting the same muscle from every single angle?

Why have you hi-jacked someone else’s thread to post this?

Have you read any of the training articles on the site?

Are there no training articles that would help you accomplish your goals that you can follow as written rather than trying to write your own program?

How about you just give your program a try and see what happens instead of asking us for advice?