You are an idiot , a fetus can be any mammal no wonder you don’t understand science , I suppose , it’s human if it is a kitten with out a brain Eye roll
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Sources on human females giving birth to anything other than human babies?
The irony of you calling someone else an idiot is not lost on the board. [/quote]
Despite the fact that he apparently didn’t actually read the conversation or follow the argument, I’d also be curious for there ever having been a 20 week cat fetus. Although, his mother did give birth to a pussy.
Beans I don’t know how you can put so many words to screen and say nothing, talk about mental gymnastics
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Your inability to understand thoughts deeper than “but mah democrats, feelz da bern” aren’t a surprise.
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You are an idiot , a fetus can be any mammal no wonder you don’t understand science , I suppose , it’s human if it is a kitten with out a brain Eye roll
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Sources on human females giving birth to anything other than human babies?
The irony of you calling someone else an idiot is not lost on the board. [/quote]
fe�·tus
Ã??fÃ??dÃ??s/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
synonyms: embryo, unborn baby/child
"an ultrasonic photo of the fetus"[/quote]
So you have nothing? Not that I’m surprised here either.
I’ve seen the term viable thrown around. My daughter wasn’t viable at 8 months, she would have died without us. And seeing how she pretends to not know how to work the cabinet locks, would die without us at almost 4 too. Her brother, at 17, apparently would die without us as well. The viable argument is bunk too.
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I must admit it is heart touching:) you forget about your friend USMC, born with out a brain , 33 and still not viable
You are an idiot , a fetus can be any mammal no wonder you don’t understand science , I suppose , it’s human if it is a kitten with out a brain Eye roll
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Sources on human females giving birth to anything other than human babies?
The irony of you calling someone else an idiot is not lost on the board. [/quote]
Despite the fact that he apparently didn’t actual read the conversation or follow the argument, I’d also be curious for there ever having been a 20 week cat fetus. Although, his mother did give birth to a pussy.
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Cat’s gestation period is 66 days , 20 weeks would be a kitten
So you have nothing? Not that I’m surprised here either. [/quote]
deny it if you like , that is the definition
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fe·tus
Ë?fÄ?dÉ?s/
noun
noun: fetus; plural noun: fetuses; noun: foetus; plural noun: foetuses
an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.
synonyms: embryo, unborn baby/child
"an ultrasonic photo of the fetus
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’ve read through most of this thread… and man it is brutal. I’m only jumping in real quick to give old style some support, as I agree with him.
Yes, I know, unique human life at conception. However, I do not think that “unique human life” DNA has the same choices as the mother, and the mother has the option to aport up to 20 weeks. [/quote]
So you’re saying some unique lives matter more than other unique lives. Interestingly enough so did this guy named Hilter.
I understand your point. Currently we don’t view a fetus as a human being, similar to how slaves were not considered humans. [/quote]
And we currently know slavery is abhorrently wrong and unjustifiable. How many more millions need to die before we learn that history lesson?
Honestly so what if the mother doesn’t love her child? It’s tragic, but at least he or she will have the majority of their life to do with as they please.
I don’t like abortion, and hope I never have to consider it. I would rather have children born into the world wanted and loved if the mother can determine early in her pregnancy that she does not want a child.
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So you’re cool with people that shake their crying infants to death or just leave them in dumpsters to die then?
Clearly they are unwanted and unloved, your criteria for if someone is allowed rights. So you must be okay with it, right? If not, why not?
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No, I don’t think that is ok. In that case, the mother chose to have the baby (she could have had an abortion), and suffers the consequences of that choice if she chooses to neglect that child.
I don’t view a under 20-week fetus the same as a baby, so I see a difference between the two scenarios.[/quote]
99.99% of the time the mother choose to have the baby, along with the father, by fucking each other without protection…
You are an idiot , a fetus can be any mammal no wonder you don’t understand science , I suppose , it’s human if it is a kitten with out a brain Eye roll
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Sources on human females giving birth to anything other than human babies?
The irony of you calling someone else an idiot is not lost on the board. [/quote]
LOL, I guess it’s a good thing someone quotes Heifer every now and then. If the case can be made that various humans have less value than others he certainly reinforces it.[/quote]
[quote]Drew1411 wrote:
I’ve read through most of this thread… and man it is brutal. I’m only jumping in real quick to give old style some support, as I agree with him.
Yes, I know, unique human life at conception. However, I do not think that “unique human life” DNA has the same choices as the mother, and the mother has the option to aport up to 20 weeks.
I understand the arguments put forth here, so not need to get into them again. My only point is that every pro-life person here says they are right, science shows it, and history will prove it. There are two sides to this, and I remain pro-choice, up to a point, even after hearing all the well sounded points made.
One of the main issues I see with Planned Parenthood debate, is that it becomes a pro-life vs. pro-abortion issue. I think it would be better to focus not on that debate, but on defunding Planned Parenthood and why that makes sense. I believe that is the better way to get pro-choice people to get onboard with defunding Planned Parenthood, which is my stance.
Carry on.[/quote]
You just stated that you do not believe in the inherent worth, or natural rights of human beings. I only ask that you realize first that you deny natural human rights (most importantly the right to life) and that you consider what that means in practice. You are in exclusive company with the most reviled movements and people in history. There are others groups that have reserved and deligAted the right to life based on the exact same logic. You are in bed with the likes of the Nazis, slave traders, and pretty much every genocidal movement in recorded history. [/quote]
I get your analogy but that is not how I see it. I do not view someone that has had an abortion as a Nazi equivalent.[/quote]
Of course not because you wouldn’t be able to look at yourself in the mirror.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
So you’re saying some unique lives matter more than other unique lives. Interestingly enough so did this guy named Hilter.
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So do millions/billions of other people, maybe he shared a slightly different opinion causing his name to be brought up more often than the others…
Do you like dogs? Interestingly enough so did this guy named Hitler.[/quote]
You are an idiot , a fetus can be any mammal no wonder you don’t understand science , I suppose , it’s human if it is a kitten with out a brain Eye roll
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Sources on human females giving birth to anything other than human babies?
The irony of you calling someone else an idiot is not lost on the board. [/quote]
Despite the fact that he apparently didn’t actual read the conversation or follow the argument, I’d also be curious for there ever having been a 20 week cat fetus. Although, his mother did give birth to a pussy.
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Cat’s gestation period is 66 days , 20 weeks would be a kitten
I don’t view a under 20-week fetus the same as a baby…
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What is it? “A glob of goo?”[/quote]
This is a valid question.
If the person isn’t a person until 20 weeks, what is that person? (I mean, obviously other than expendable tissue available for research.)[/quote]
Its a person, just one with slightly less value. We all value human lives differently, your family vs strangers for example.[/quote]
So you are saying that the law should have different lesser penalties if you murder a stranger? That violating the rights of a stranger should be legally more permissible that violating a family member?
This is a perfect illustration of why the law shouldn’t change based on how much you value a human.
I don’t view a under 20-week fetus the same as a baby…
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What is it? “A glob of goo?”[/quote]
This is a valid question.
If the person isn’t a person until 20 weeks, what is that person? (I mean, obviously other than expendable tissue available for research.)[/quote]
Its a person, just one with slightly less value. We all value human lives differently, your family vs strangers for example.[/quote]
So you are saying that the law should have different lesser penalties if you murder a stranger? That violating the rights of a stranger should be legally more permissible that violating a family member?
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I’m glad you brought this up as it already reflects exactly how people view this subject. The accepted penalty for death of a stranger is life in prison or death penalty, depending on your views on that subject. For a family member its the same but with a slightly less pleasant prison experience or slightly more painful death penalty.
I don’t view a under 20-week fetus the same as a baby…
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What is it? “A glob of goo?”[/quote]
This is a valid question.
If the person isn’t a person until 20 weeks, what is that person? (I mean, obviously other than expendable tissue available for research.)[/quote]
Its a person, just one with slightly less value. We all value human lives differently, your family vs strangers for example.[/quote]
So you are saying that the law should have different lesser penalties if you murder a stranger? That violating the rights of a stranger should be legally more permissible that violating a family member?
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I’m glad you brought this up as it already reflects exactly how people view this subject. The accepted penalty for death of a stranger is life in prison or death penalty, depending on your views on that subject. For a family member its the same but with a slightly less pleasant prison experience or slightly more painful death penalty.[/quote]
I don’t view a under 20-week fetus the same as a baby…
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What is it? “A glob of goo?”[/quote]
This is a valid question.
If the person isn’t a person until 20 weeks, what is that person? (I mean, obviously other than expendable tissue available for research.)[/quote]
Its a person, just one with slightly less value. We all value human lives differently, your family vs strangers for example.[/quote]
So you are saying that the law should have different lesser penalties if you murder a stranger? That violating the rights of a stranger should be legally more permissible that violating a family member?
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I’m glad you brought this up as it already reflects exactly how people view this subject. The accepted penalty for death of a stranger is life in prison or death penalty, depending on your views on that subject. For a family member its the same but with a slightly less pleasant prison experience or slightly more painful death penalty.[/quote]
Huh?[/quote]
I was correcting him in his assumption that the law for the person of lesser value should be changed, in fact the law is good as it currently stands
Eye roll 