'Planned Parenthood' Advises Pimp of Underage Sex Slaves

[Ryan_P_McCarter]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Every single and ALL human life in the world is valuable, none more or less than the other. Do you think animals and humans are the same because they look alike in the ‘blob’ stage? Well they are NOT even the same.[/quote]

I think animals and humans are pretty close to the same at any stage of life. And at any rate, since you go on in your next paragraph about wanting scientific evidence, you should know that a huge body a biological science shows many many ways that we are like animals. We ARE animals.

Provide undisputed science to back your claims, isn’t that what you threw a tantrum fro me to provide? Yet you never meet your own stipulations, or even the same criteria. Interesting!!

Uh, as a matter of fact, no. I threw no “tantrum,” and I asked for no “scientific evidence” of anything. What would I ask for? The issue is cut-and-dried. You think for some reason that you are inherently better than females and that you can tell them what to do with their bodies. I expressed a different opinion.

[Ryan_P_McCarter]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
I will tell people right from wrong whether they are five years old, or thirty six. Any moral wrong is always wrong.

AGAIN I bring the same point to the table ryan, listen carefully, the creation of life has been understood since long before you were brought into this world. Grow up and learn how to be responsible for your actions. Women AND men need to be responsible and learn how to act like an adult, even after partaking in adult behavior. Yet I can guess you disagree. Prove me wrong!![/quote]

There is no proof here. It is totally a matter of opinion. It is your opinion that you have the right to tell a woman what she can and can’t do with her body, and when she will have a child. It is my opinion that you do not have this right.

Your asinine (probably religious) opinion that abortion is “morally wrong” is not universally accepted.

Nice try ryan. I am defending that life who did nothing deserving to be wiped from existence.

Aw, wahh! Stop dancing around the issue–justify WHO gives you the right to control another human’s body against their wishes?

Show me medical proof that the person doesn’t have their own medical set of DNA, their own unique body size, their own level of development, their own environment and their own degree of dependency. Oh wait, am I talking about the difference between you and me, or every person on earth, may even be the person developing inside their mother?!?

Who cares? If the woman doesn’t want to have the child, none of this matters. Her body, her decision. Easy.

[Ryan_P_McCarter]

I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.

[KneeDragger_79]

“You THINK animals and humans are PRETTY CLOSE to the same” emphasis mine. You think lots of different things ryan, yet how many are correct? Animals and humans share the fact they have biological functions. That is simple fact. Nothing else!! Prove otherwise, I’m tired of repeating the same thing Over and OVER and OVER and OVER again. You seem to lack the ability to comprehend something in print. shakes head

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think animals and humans are pretty close to the same at any stage of life. And at any rate, since you go on in your next paragraph about wanting scientific evidence, you should know that a huge body a biological science shows many many ways that we are like animals. We ARE animals.[/quote]

Placing words in my mouth so you have an argument, nice try ryan. I simply speak for the lives of the unborn who have no voice. Actually much like a person in a coma who has no voice. Should we just unplug them because you see no value in their lives?

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Uh, as a matter of fact, no. I threw no “tantrum,” and I asked for no “scientific evidence” of anything. What would I ask for? The issue is cut-and-dried. You think for some reason that you are inherently better than females and that you can tell them what to do with their bodies. I expressed a different opinion.[/quote]

[KneeDragger_79]

If a person kills another, would you say nothing?!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
There is no proof here. It is totally a matter of opinion. It is your opinion that you have the right to tell a woman what she can and can’t do with her body, and when she will have a child. It is my opinion that you do not have this right.[/quote]

Never once brought religion or God to the table you bigoted ass fuck, quit trying to side step the issue at hand.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Your asinine (probably religious) opinion that abortion is “morally wrong” is not universally accepted.[/quote]

The child with no voice gives me the right to stand up against ignorance like your own.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Aw, wahh! Stop dancing around the issue–justify WHO gives you the right to control another human’s body against their wishes?[/quote]

Again, pay attention!! This has yet to be dis-proven. If a person decides to partake in adult activities, they should be held accountable for their actions [u]LIKE AN ADULT![/u] OMG, I know a foreign idea in your noggin.

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
Who cares? If the woman doesn’t want to have the child, none of this matters. Her body, her decision. Easy.[/quote]

[KneeDragger_79]

Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]

[orion]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

English is my fist language!

[PatMac]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.

[Big_Banana]

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.[/quote]

What is silly is Ryan equates HUMAN embryos with tadpoles. Once he makes that ridiculously false statement the rest of his argument is invalidated.

What is silly is that anyone takes Ryan seriously when he has proven himself a fool and liar.

[PatMac]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
“You THINK animals and humans are PRETTY CLOSE to the same” emphasis mine. You think lots of different things ryan, yet how many are correct? Animals and humans share the fact they have biological functions. That is simple fact. Nothing else!! Prove otherwise, I’m tired of repeating the same thing Over and OVER and OVER and OVER again. You seem to lack the ability to comprehend something in print. shakes head[/quote]

But you cannot deny the similarity between two clumps of cells at the very early stage of development. On a molecular level, they are very similar - most animal life starts out being very similar. You are addressing the future when you speak of the life that it will become and Ryan is speaking about the present. You can see his point of view if you want to. You are choosing to see it as you wish.

Yelling the same thing over and over again isn’t very convincing, particularly when the person you are yelling at has already considered what you are saying and admits that they don’t agree with it. He has said it is a difference in opinion.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Placing words in my mouth so you have an argument, nice try ryan. I simply speak for the lives of the unborn who have no voice. Actually much like a person in a coma who has no voice. Should we just unplug them because you see no value in their lives?

[/quote]

You’ve been doing the same thing for a while now. Worse, Ryan has engaged your thoughts / opinions and he simply doesn’t agree with them because he’s moved past the women are property point of view that was so popular up until recently. There are countries in the world that still allow women to be regarded as property, but most of them aren’t worth living in once you have observed and experienced the liberty that living in North America has afford you.

[PatMac]

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.[/quote]

What is silly is Ryan equates HUMAN embryos with tadpoles. Once he makes that ridiculously false statement the rest of his argument is invalidated.

What is silly is that anyone takes Ryan seriously when he has proven himself a fool and liar.[/quote]

BB - you have to see how silly it is to comment on ones perceived errors in writing on a message board while making an error yourself (not you, kneedragger).

In the future, that clump of cells may become a frog, or a goat, or a human. But until it reaches a certain point (a point in the future), it’s just a bunch of organic matter with the potential to become something.

You don’t seem to agree. Oh well. The world keeps on doing what it does.

[Big_Banana]

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.[/quote]

What is silly is Ryan equates HUMAN embryos with tadpoles. Once he makes that ridiculously false statement the rest of his argument is invalidated.

What is silly is that anyone takes Ryan seriously when he has proven himself a fool and liar.[/quote]

BB - you have to see how silly it is to comment on ones perceived errors in writing on a message board while making an error yourself (not you, kneedragger).

In the future, that clump of cells may become a frog, or a goat, or a human. But until it reaches a certain point (a point in the future), it’s just a bunch of organic matter with the potential to become something.

You don’t seem to agree. Oh well. What world keeps on doing what it does.[/quote]

Incredibly ignorant. The clump of cells will become a human, not a goat. Who wasthe last woman to give birth to a goat?

I will refrain from insulting you and your mother here.

[PatMac]

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.[/quote]

What is silly is Ryan equates HUMAN embryos with tadpoles. Once he makes that ridiculously false statement the rest of his argument is invalidated.

What is silly is that anyone takes Ryan seriously when he has proven himself a fool and liar.[/quote]

BB - you have to see how silly it is to comment on ones perceived errors in writing on a message board while making an error yourself (not you, kneedragger).

In the future, that clump of cells may become a frog, or a goat, or a human. But until it reaches a certain point (a point in the future), it’s just a bunch of organic matter with the potential to become something.

You don’t seem to agree. Oh well. What world keeps on doing what it does.[/quote]

Incredibly ignorant. The clump of cells will become a human, not a goat. Who wasthe last woman to give birth to a goat?

I will refrain from insulting you and your mother here.[/quote]

Based on your answer, it seems like you have considered what has been said and don’t think much of it.

I don’t think you should ever have an abortion.

[Big_Banana]

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Is English your fist language? If so, sue your third grade teacher because s/he should NOT have allowed you to pass the class!!

[quote]Ryan P. McCarter wrote:
I think it’s hilarious that all the very empathetic people here emoting over a bunch of tadpoles, and lamenting the fact so many are prematurely killed would probably freak out and stomp on a small fetus if you just tossed one at them.[/quote]
[/quote]

Even for a kneedragger, this was a silly post.

Unless you mean that he’s doing his fighting with his words, at which point, well done with the creative reply but you might want to consider engaging his words and stop with the name calling and tragically weak insults.

So you’re either silly or unwilling to engage someone’s ideas / opinions. And for some reason you feel qualified to tell half the population what they can do with their bodies.[/quote]

What is silly is Ryan equates HUMAN embryos with tadpoles. Once he makes that ridiculously false statement the rest of his argument is invalidated.

What is silly is that anyone takes Ryan seriously when he has proven himself a fool and liar.[/quote]

BB - you have to see how silly it is to comment on ones perceived errors in writing on a message board while making an error yourself (not you, kneedragger).

In the future, that clump of cells may become a frog, or a goat, or a human. But until it reaches a certain point (a point in the future), it’s just a bunch of organic matter with the potential to become something.

You don’t seem to agree. Oh well. What world keeps on doing what it does.[/quote]

Incredibly ignorant. The clump of cells will become a human, not a goat. Who wasthe last woman to give birth to a goat?

I will refrain from insulting you and your mother here.[/quote]

Based on your answer, it seems like you have considered what has been said and don’t think much of it.

I don’t think you should ever have an abortion. [/quote]

You and Ryan are engaging in a gross misrepresentation of reality to justify your weak position on abortion. A human embryo will always become a human if it is not prevented from doing so. It will not become something else.

Are you truly ignorant enough to believe it will? Would you rather spread lies than discuss the issue at hand?

The whole pro abortion position can be summed up as “some babies need killing.”

Stand behind that argument or don’t. That is your choice. But when you start spreading out and out lies the discussion on the topic is over.

[PatMac]

[quote]Big Banana wrote:
You and Ryan are engaging in a gross misrepresentation of reality to justify your weak position on abortion. A human embryo will always become a human if it is not prevented from doing so. It will not become something else.

Are you truly ignorant enough to believe it will? Would you rather spread lies than discuss the issue at hand?

The whole pro abortion position can be summed up as “some babies need killing.”

Stand behind that argument or don’t. That is your choice. But when you start spreading out and out lies the discussion on the topic is over.[/quote]

You don’t know my position on abortion other than I don’t think men should tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

The clump of cells is a thought exercise that you don’t want to accept as a thought exercise. Fine. You don’t have to.

I think “some babies need killing” is a myopic view of a position you don’t hold. Fine, you can have whatever opinion of something you don’t believe that you like.

You and I both know that there is no discussion about abortion with those who are pro-life when one does not hold the same view. It’s just too emotional for logical discussion or thought exercises. Emotion and logic can’t exist together.

[bigflamer]

This silliness about “it’s just a clump of cells”, “tadpoles”, and “it could be a goat”, is beyond laughable. Like we’re supposed to believe that human reproduction is some crap shoot or something. Like a woman rolls into the doctors office to have an ultrasound, and the doctor says “you need to know that there’s the possibility that your clump of cells will develop into a goat”. lol

Are we not all just a “clump of cells”, regardless of the life cycle stage we are in? Yes, when a woman’s egg is fertilized by a man’s sperm, it is indeed a clump of cells; a [i]CLUMP OF HUMAN CELLS[/i] that will continue to develop and proceed through it’s life cycle, just like the rest of the cell clumps walking around.

[PatMac]

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
This silliness about “it’s just a clump of cells”, “tadpoles”, and “it could be a goat”, is beyond laughable. Like we’re supposed to believe that human reproduction is some crap shoot or something. Like a woman rolls into the doctors office to have an ultrasound, and the doctor says “you need to know that there’s the possibility that your clump of cells will develop into a goat”. lol

Are we not all just a “clump of cells”, regardless of the life cycle stage we are in? Yes, when a woman’s egg is fertilized by a man’s sperm, it is indeed a clump of cells; a [i]CLUMP OF HUMAN CELLS[/i] that will continue to develop and proceed through it’s life cycle, just like the rest of the cell clumps walking around. [/quote]

Pretty much. We think we’re important, but we’re just giant meat sacks. $7 worth of carbon if want like.

But unless you actually see the inherent worthlessness of each of us, the clump of cells is going to be a nonstarter.

[Big_Banana]

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]Big Banana wrote:
You and Ryan are engaging in a gross misrepresentation of reality to justify your weak position on abortion. A human embryo will always become a human if it is not prevented from doing so. It will not become something else.

Are you truly ignorant enough to believe it will? Would you rather spread lies than discuss the issue at hand?

The whole pro abortion position can be summed up as “some babies need killing.”

Stand behind that argument or don’t. That is your choice. But when you start spreading out and out lies the discussion on the topic is over.[/quote]

You don’t know my position on abortion other than I don’t think men should tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

The clump of cells is a thought exercise that you don’t want to accept as a thought exercise. Fine. You don’t have to.

I think “some babies need killing” is a myopic view of a position you don’t hold. Fine, you can have whatever opinion of something you don’t believe that you like.

You and I both know that there is no discussion about abortion with those who are pro-life when one does not hold the same view. It’s just too emotional for logical discussion or thought exercises. Emotion and logic can’t exist together.[/quote]

It is a very poor thought exercise because it is not based in any sort of reality.

My statement of some babies need killing is very accurate. You can change it to some fetus’ or embryos need killing if you prefer.

[Big_Banana]

[quote]PatMac wrote:

[quote]bigflamer wrote:
This silliness about “it’s just a clump of cells”, “tadpoles”, and “it could be a goat”, is beyond laughable. Like we’re supposed to believe that human reproduction is some crap shoot or something. Like a woman rolls into the doctors office to have an ultrasound, and the doctor says “you need to know that there’s the possibility that your clump of cells will develop into a goat”. lol

Are we not all just a “clump of cells”, regardless of the life cycle stage we are in? Yes, when a woman’s egg is fertilized by a man’s sperm, it is indeed a clump of cells; a [i]CLUMP OF HUMAN CELLS[/i] that will continue to develop and proceed through it’s life cycle, just like the rest of the cell clumps walking around. [/quote]

Pretty much. We think we’re important, but we’re just giant meat sacks. $7 worth of carbon if want like.

But unless you actually see the inherent worthlessness of each of us, the clump of cells is going to be a nonstarter.[/quote]

Perhaps your sense of self worth is that low. If it is you have my sympathy and recommendation that you seek some form of counseling.

[PatMac]

[quote]Big Banana wrote:

It is a very poor thought exercise because it is not based in any sort of reality.

My statement of some babies need killing is very accurate. You can change it to some fetus’ or embryos need killing if you prefer. [/quote]

Just curious though, what do you think about what Mary Vargas did?

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2011/02/09-1

Should she have been forced to carry to term? I bring this up because, while she wouldn’t have birthed a goat, going to term wouldn’t not have meant a viable child.