hey tom. i actuallu saw you at tim burrills last week. Im looking to take up bjj and muay thai and eventually mma. i liked jimmy and the guys alot but I want to train somewhere that also has standup etc. Where would you suggest. Also im a complete noob. and fuck that miss usa broad you represent way harder
Didn’t tom just win on his return back to the ufc. Not sure if that was him. I thought so anyways.
[quote]nunes92 wrote:
hey tom. i actuallu saw you at tim burrills last week. Im looking to take up bjj and muay thai and eventually mma. i liked jimmy and the guys alot but I want to train somewhere that also has standup etc. Where would you suggest. Also im a complete noob. and fuck that miss usa broad you represent way harder[/quote]
Try Tri-Force MMA. I train at both places. Tim’s BJJ is amazing and TF has a great group of guys there, many of whom train at Tim’s too. Check em both out and pick which one is the best fit for you.
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What adjustments do you make to your standup to help prevent takedowns? Being primarily a wrestler this might be more instinct for you. I know the big two are to widen out your base a bit (if you stand very tall thai style) and to keep your hips even or lower than your opponents… but any other tips?
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Favorite strategies to deal with an opponent that has longer reach/taller?
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I think you mentioned earlier that you felt the takedown game wouldn’t change very much and that people will just get better at the basics (paraphrasing), what do you feel are the most effective takedowns in mma today (other than the Seagal/Dhalsim kick)?
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Last book you read?
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If you were to pick just one portion of your training week, What do you feel has been the biggest contributor to your conditioning?
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How nice is Arianny’s ass? scale of 1-10 … 1 being awesome, 10 being really REALLY awesome.
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We all know you’re a big student of MMA history, but how much time do you spend watching tape of other fighters? Guys from your weight class and other events (mma, kickboxing, etc)? Do you feel this helps?
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What advice would you give to a younger slightly less filthy Tom at the beginning his career?
This is a really sick opportunity so thank you for taking time out of your schedule to answer some questions. This is absurdly cool of you. Also Genki Sudo is my favorite fighter of all time, so your buckethead entrance was the dopest entrance EVER. Highlight of my MMA year so far.
[quote]FilthyTomLawlor wrote:
I’m willing to answer any questions you guys may have about my strength & conditioning training, cutting weight, my technical training, sparring, anything else you can think of.
-Tom Lawlor[/quote]
And since I have you here…
Making the assumption that you have encyclopedic knowledge of every fight scene ever (which I base on absolutely nothing)… I’m watching Eastern Promises and noticed that Viggo Mortensen utilizes the lead outside crescent kick to disarm a scalpel wielding attacker. Do you feel the outside crescent is a viable technique when dealing with an armed attacker in a nude-turkish-bathhouse-fight? Especially shoeless?
Thanks in advance!
(hey, you said anything)
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
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What adjustments do you make to your standup to help prevent takedowns? Being primarily a wrestler this might be more instinct for you. I know the big two are to widen out your base a bit (if you stand very tall thai style) and to keep your hips even or lower than your opponents… but any other tips?
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Favorite strategies to deal with an opponent that has longer reach/taller?
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I think you mentioned earlier that you felt the takedown game wouldn’t change very much and that people will just get better at the basics (paraphrasing), what do you feel are the most effective takedowns in mma today (other than the Seagal/Dhalsim kick)?
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Last book you read?
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If you were to pick just one portion of your training week, What do you feel has been the biggest contributor to your conditioning?
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How nice is Arianny’s ass? scale of 1-10 … 1 being awesome, 10 being really REALLY awesome.
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We all know you’re a big student of MMA history, but how much time do you spend watching tape of other fighters? Guys from your weight class and other events (mma, kickboxing, etc)? Do you feel this helps?
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What advice would you give to a younger slightly less filthy Tom at the beginning his career?
This is a really sick opportunity so thank you for taking time out of your schedule to answer some questions. This is absurdly cool of you. Also Genki Sudo is my favorite fighter of all time, so your buckethead entrance was the dopest entrance EVER. Highlight of my MMA year so far.[/quote]
Arianny got ridiculed for having a small ass.
Damn Xen, those were some great questions. Quietly waiting for Filthy to reply…
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
[quote]FilthyTomLawlor wrote:
I’m willing to answer any questions you guys may have about my strength & conditioning training, cutting weight, my technical training, sparring, anything else you can think of.
-Tom Lawlor[/quote]
And since I have you here…
Making the assumption that you have encyclopedic knowledge of every fight scene ever (which I base on absolutely nothing)… I’m watching Eastern Promises and noticed that Viggo Mortensen utilizes the lead outside crescent kick to disarm a scalpel wielding attacker. Do you feel the outside crescent is a viable technique when dealing with an armed attacker in a nude-turkish-bathhouse-fight? Especially shoeless?
Thanks in advance!
(hey, you said anything)[/quote]
I rarely ever watch movies, I prefer to watch professional wrestling from Japan on youtube to get inspiration from fight scenes.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
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What adjustments do you make to your standup to help prevent takedowns? Being primarily a wrestler this might be more instinct for you. I know the big two are to widen out your base a bit (if you stand very tall thai style) and to keep your hips even or lower than your opponents… but any other tips?
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Favorite strategies to deal with an opponent that has longer reach/taller?
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I think you mentioned earlier that you felt the takedown game wouldn’t change very much and that people will just get better at the basics (paraphrasing), what do you feel are the most effective takedowns in mma today (other than the Seagal/Dhalsim kick)?
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Last book you read?
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If you were to pick just one portion of your training week, What do you feel has been the biggest contributor to your conditioning?
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How nice is Arianny’s ass? scale of 1-10 … 1 being awesome, 10 being really REALLY awesome.
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We all know you’re a big student of MMA history, but how much time do you spend watching tape of other fighters? Guys from your weight class and other events (mma, kickboxing, etc)? Do you feel this helps?
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What advice would you give to a younger slightly less filthy Tom at the beginning his career?
This is a really sick opportunity so thank you for taking time out of your schedule to answer some questions. This is absurdly cool of you. Also Genki Sudo is my favorite fighter of all time, so your buckethead entrance was the dopest entrance EVER. Highlight of my MMA year so far.[/quote]
-I think the most major thing in preventing the takedown from standing is not to overextend when punching. Overextending leads to being off-balance, which leads to more takedown opportunities for your opponent.
-Get inside! Use footwork to corner them against the cage, where you KNOW he can’t use his length to create distance. See my last fight for an example=)
-The most effective still remains the good ole double leg. I guess I should clarify, I think perhaps people will start using the single leg more often. If you watch a college wrestling match, I think the snag single is the number one move used to score, I would imagine it will become more prevalent in the future as well, but I feel that striking exchanges lead to double leg opportunities due to arm placement of your opponent when he punches.
-Jason Ferruggia’s Renegade Diet
-Sparring. Hard sparring gasses you like nothing else. Well that and wrestling.
-Hmmm 5. It looks good in person, but those strange pics of her on the balcony look terrible so I will go directly in the middle of the scale.
-I watch virtually every MMA event that hits TV, and a lot that don’t. I think it helps yes, I’ve seen so many fights now that I have a better grasp of what is really important and what to look for during a fight so that I can make adjustments for my own fights. I watch a good deal of instructionals as well.
-Take a damn bath once in awhile man!
I was watching the Expendables basketball court scene (where Jason Statham easily beats down 6 guys). It’s obviously just an exagerated movie scene. But what if it was one of the larger UFC heavyweights instead of Jason Statham? Like say Dave Herman. A buddy and I were debating this. He says the crowd wins because they could just swarm the heavyweight, drag him to the ground, and clobber him on the ground. I thought the heavyweight would take it. (And this is assuming no weapons since Statham doesn’t bust out the knife until after the fight is over)
With boxing footwork/handspeed and greater reach, it wouldn’t be very hard to take out 1-2 guys right off the bat. Then when the remaining guys get close, uppercuts/hooks/knees would be devastating. The average dudes would probably eat elbows to the back of the head if they went for his legs (I’m presuming they wouldn’t be able to floor the heavyweight with a fast, wrestling-style takedown that avoids the elbows).
This is just a dorky hypothetical but it’ll be fun to get feedback!
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I was watching the Expendables basketball court scene (where Jason Statham easily beats down 6 guys). It’s obviously just an exagerated movie scene. But what if it was one of the larger UFC heavyweights instead of Jason Statham? Like say Dave Herman. A buddy and I were debating this. He says the crowd wins because they could just swarm the heavyweight, drag him to the ground, and clobber him on the ground. I thought the heavyweight would take it. (And this is assuming no weapons since Statham doesn’t bust out the knife until after the fight is over)
With boxing footwork/handspeed and greater reach, it wouldn’t be very hard to take out 1-2 guys right off the bat. Then when the remaining guys get close, uppercuts/hooks/knees would be devastating. The average dudes would probably eat elbows to the back of the head if they went for his legs (I’m presuming they wouldn’t be able to floor the heavyweight with a fast, wrestling-style takedown that avoids the elbows).
This is just a dorky hypothetical but it’ll be fun to get feedback![/quote]
I actually think that it would be a lot easier than people think for a trained fighter to beat up 6 nobodies without weapons. People think “Oh fighters get hit in the head all the time that is what they do for a living”, well it is true to some extent yet a large portion of the time is also spent countering or evading punches, attacks, etc.
I think even welterweights would stand a chance in a situation like this. Once you start throwing in some of the 155’ers and other midgets then it maybe gets a bit dicey just due to the size advantage the group of 6 has.
[quote]FilthyTomLawlor wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I was watching the Expendables basketball court scene (where Jason Statham easily beats down 6 guys). It’s obviously just an exagerated movie scene. But what if it was one of the larger UFC heavyweights instead of Jason Statham? Like say Dave Herman. A buddy and I were debating this. He says the crowd wins because they could just swarm the heavyweight, drag him to the ground, and clobber him on the ground. I thought the heavyweight would take it. (And this is assuming no weapons since Statham doesn’t bust out the knife until after the fight is over)
With boxing footwork/handspeed and greater reach, it wouldn’t be very hard to take out 1-2 guys right off the bat. Then when the remaining guys get close, uppercuts/hooks/knees would be devastating. The average dudes would probably eat elbows to the back of the head if they went for his legs (I’m presuming they wouldn’t be able to floor the heavyweight with a fast, wrestling-style takedown that avoids the elbows).
This is just a dorky hypothetical but it’ll be fun to get feedback![/quote]
I actually think that it would be a lot easier than people think for a trained fighter to beat up 6 nobodies without weapons. People think “Oh fighters get hit in the head all the time that is what they do for a living”, well it is true to some extent yet a large portion of the time is also spent countering or evading punches, attacks, etc.
I think even welterweights would stand a chance in a situation like this. Once you start throwing in some of the 155’ers and other midgets then it maybe gets a bit dicey just due to the size advantage the group of 6 has.
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even if it’s the top midgets like BJ or smooth benderson?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]FilthyTomLawlor wrote:
[quote]sardines12 wrote:
I was watching the Expendables basketball court scene (where Jason Statham easily beats down 6 guys). It’s obviously just an exagerated movie scene. But what if it was one of the larger UFC heavyweights instead of Jason Statham? Like say Dave Herman. A buddy and I were debating this. He says the crowd wins because they could just swarm the heavyweight, drag him to the ground, and clobber him on the ground. I thought the heavyweight would take it. (And this is assuming no weapons since Statham doesn’t bust out the knife until after the fight is over)
With boxing footwork/handspeed and greater reach, it wouldn’t be very hard to take out 1-2 guys right off the bat. Then when the remaining guys get close, uppercuts/hooks/knees would be devastating. The average dudes would probably eat elbows to the back of the head if they went for his legs (I’m presuming they wouldn’t be able to floor the heavyweight with a fast, wrestling-style takedown that avoids the elbows).
This is just a dorky hypothetical but it’ll be fun to get feedback![/quote]
I actually think that it would be a lot easier than people think for a trained fighter to beat up 6 nobodies without weapons. People think “Oh fighters get hit in the head all the time that is what they do for a living”, well it is true to some extent yet a large portion of the time is also spent countering or evading punches, attacks, etc.
I think even welterweights would stand a chance in a situation like this. Once you start throwing in some of the 155’ers and other midgets then it maybe gets a bit dicey just due to the size advantage the group of 6 has.
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This came up on another thread Tom, and that’s why he’s asking.
Respectfully, I totally disagree. Six guys = end of life, and it’s generally acceptable for the one person to use any weapons he has, including deadly force, in reaction to it.
Hell, I’ll give the UFC guy a knife. Six guys still win.
Regardless, that’ll be my only comment on here about that, don’t want to hijack things.[/quote]
I think you seriously overestimate the capabilities of the “average person”.
This is cool thanks for doing this Tom!
Since someone already threw out a hypothetical scenerio I’ll add another that usually comes up. Who do you think would win in a streetfight between a pro boxer and a pro mma fighter assuming they both have they same years of training and are the same weight?
Also is there any common injuries that you see most fighters deal with just by virtue of the training?
[quote]law8 wrote:
Who do you think would win in a streetfight between a pro boxer and a pro mma fighter assuming they both have they same years of training and are the same weight?
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Wow. Seriously dude?
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]law8 wrote:
Who do you think would win in a streetfight between a pro boxer and a pro mma fighter assuming they both have they same years of training and are the same weight?
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Wow. Seriously dude? [/quote]
I know, I’m sorry. I am a weak man.
UFC fighters know their stuff and could probably beat 6 random “tough guys”, but most of them spend the majority of their time training to fight ONE person. In military krav maga, you are taught to fight multiple people at the same time, an expert in that would not have a hard time dealing with 6 people even if they knew a thing or two about fighting, there is no mercy in military krav, just a kill or be killed mentality.
The trick for fighting a group is to immediately remove at least one person from the equation (i.e. hard kick to the nuts or punch to the throat), and do everything in your power to not get surrounded. The easiest way to escape unharmed is to work on your running technique and be much faster than the six people chasing you.
That being said, with a knife, six people don’t stand a chance against someone who knows what they are doing. You may not escape unharmed, but it is incredibly easy to incapacitate someone when you are using a knife. 6 vs 1 becomes 3-4 vs 1 very quickly, and you have the advantage of the 3-4 people left just watched you easily disable (or kill if the situation is that serious) 2 of their friends. I like those odds a lot more when you add the knife.
[quote]Ghall wrote:
UFC fighters know their stuff and could probably beat 6 random “tough guys”, but most of them spend the majority of their time training to fight ONE person. In military krav maga, you are taught to fight multiple people at the same time, an expert in that would not have a hard time dealing with 6 people even if they knew a thing or two about fighting, there is no mercy in military krav, just a kill or be killed mentality. The trick for fighting a group is to immediately remove at least one person from the equation (i.e. hard kick to the nuts or punch to the throat), and do everything in your power to not get surrounded. The easiest way to escape unharmed is to work on your running technique and be much faster than the six people chasing you. That being said, with a knife, six people don’t stand a chance against someone who knows what they are doing. You may not escape unharmed, but it is incredibly easy to incapacitate someone when you are using a knife. 6 vs 1 becomes 3-4 vs 1 very quickly, and you have the advantage of the 3-4 people left just watched you easily disable (or kill if the situation is that serious) 2 of their friends. I like those odds a lot more when you add the knife.[/quote]
And yes I know, this is slightly off topic, just wanted to illustrate that there are people who train specifically against groups.
[quote]Ghall wrote:
[quote]Ghall wrote:
UFC fighters know their stuff and could probably beat 6 random “tough guys”, but most of them spend the majority of their time training to fight ONE person. In military krav maga, you are taught to fight multiple people at the same time, an expert in that would not have a hard time dealing with 6 people even if they knew a thing or two about fighting, there is no mercy in military krav, just a kill or be killed mentality. The trick for fighting a group is to immediately remove at least one person from the equation (i.e. hard kick to the nuts or punch to the throat), and do everything in your power to not get surrounded. The easiest way to escape unharmed is to work on your running technique and be much faster than the six people chasing you. That being said, with a knife, six people don’t stand a chance against someone who knows what they are doing. You may not escape unharmed, but it is incredibly easy to incapacitate someone when you are using a knife. 6 vs 1 becomes 3-4 vs 1 very quickly, and you have the advantage of the 3-4 people left just watched you easily disable (or kill if the situation is that serious) 2 of their friends. I like those odds a lot more when you add the knife.[/quote]
And yes I know, this is slightly off topic, just wanted to illustrate that there are people who train specifically against groups.[/quote]
If this is to be talked about more we should take it to another thread, not invade this one. Tom’s doing a favor by doing this, no reason to pollute this with the same arguments that have happened on the internets for years.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Ghall wrote:
[quote]Ghall wrote:
UFC fighters know their stuff and could probably beat 6 random “tough guys”, but most of them spend the majority of their time training to fight ONE person. In military krav maga, you are taught to fight multiple people at the same time, an expert in that would not have a hard time dealing with 6 people even if they knew a thing or two about fighting, there is no mercy in military krav, just a kill or be killed mentality. The trick for fighting a group is to immediately remove at least one person from the equation (i.e. hard kick to the nuts or punch to the throat), and do everything in your power to not get surrounded. The easiest way to escape unharmed is to work on your running technique and be much faster than the six people chasing you. That being said, with a knife, six people don’t stand a chance against someone who knows what they are doing. You may not escape unharmed, but it is incredibly easy to incapacitate someone when you are using a knife. 6 vs 1 becomes 3-4 vs 1 very quickly, and you have the advantage of the 3-4 people left just watched you easily disable (or kill if the situation is that serious) 2 of their friends. I like those odds a lot more when you add the knife.[/quote]
And yes I know, this is slightly off topic, just wanted to illustrate that there are people who train specifically against groups.[/quote]
If this is to be talked about more we should take it to another thread, not invade this one. Tom’s doing a favor by doing this, no reason to pollute this with the same arguments that have happened on the internets for years. [/quote]
You notice who started “polluting” this thread…regardless of Tom being open to answer any question thrown at him.