Wondering what people think about this. I know it’s available by IP, not sure about others. It is supposed to cause rapid weight loss and site specific muscle growth. It gives extensive diarrhea, so I’m wondering if that would be the cause of the rapid weight loss. As far as site-enhancing, perhaps inflammation?
I don’t really know much about this, so any input is appreciated.
I thought this was the Holy Grail at first also, but after researching it and reading a few logs, I concluded the nasty sides (especially the defecation) made it impractical. They are claiming fat loss,not scale weight, so the defecation should not be the cause if we accept that line of thought. In short, with these sides, cannot understand how this could be used by anyone in a real world situation, otherwise I would consider having a go…
PGF2a which is essentially the same thing, if I have it correct.
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I don’t remember the details, but it is not the same thing. Something about PGCL being a racemic mixture of some synthetic shit, who knows. It’s supposed to be quite a bit more powerful, though have roughly the same effects. Either way it doesn’t seem too spectacular. Thanks.
Funny lines from the BBB and DGL PFG2 thread:
Bushy:
[quote]And shit I did - 6 times in approx 30 minutes, the last 3 of which were nothing more than rusty water pissing out of my arse… Oh, and I had a lovely cold sweat to go with my sojorn on the toilet!.
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MY RINGPIECE HUUURRRRTTTTS!
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Told the chiro about the PGF2 and suggested that he take it easy on the lumbar adjustment, just in case I explosively decorate his office with excrement! [/quote]
DGL:
Prisoner#22 (lecturing Bushy about his insulin use):
Bushy, do you think the effects of the PFG2 were due to not being able to hold onto food, or was there a legitimate fat-burning effect? And what about the site enhancement?
I’ve never used but would say the beginning weight would possibly be caused by the water loss in diarrhea. Most diarrhea is caused by a negative feedback loop from dehydration. Ever get “beer shits”? lol
[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
I thought this was the Holy Grail at first also, but after researching it and reading a few logs, I concluded the nasty sides (especially the defecation) made it impractical. They are claiming fat loss,not scale weight, so the defecation should not be the cause if we accept that line of thought. In short, with these sides, cannot understand how this could be used by anyone in a real world situation, otherwise I would consider having a go…[/quote]
What do you mean by a real world situation? Do you have to sit on a bucket at work in the office? I mean how much could one shit in one day? 
I’ve read it affects some people differently. For some people its done absolute wonders, with minimal side effects. Much more tolerable than DNP yet almost as effective a fat burner. Unfortunately some people get sides they can’t tolerate. If you don’t get them, screw dieting and cardio. Its almost instant gratification! BTW I don’t like dieting. It makes me hungry;^/
Its recommended to just buy a 1 amp at first to see if you can tolerate it, but you need ten amps for a 2-3 week cycle. I have no idea how much is in an amp. I don’t have that info.
I might try it in the future if we find out more about it.
Is this all the info I get on PGCL at T-Nation?
I think the whole PGCL thing is a load of crap. For that matter most of these new peptides floating around are crap, pgcl, gh fragment, all this stuff is marketed to people that are looking for some kind of super drug…guess what theres not one!
Anyone who has been in this game for 20 years or so will tell you the same thing Test, deca (yes i said deca, contrary to polular bro-knowledge it is still a great anabolic), anadrol, dbol, and as much GH as you can afford to buy. Repeat for years = serious size. Guys can bullshit all they want but this is what works.
Yes adding insulin will help, yes IGF1R3 is effective if you actually get real IGF which i would about guarantee you are not. So forget all the crap jam a gram a week of test, 600-800 of deca, 50mg anadrol daily with 30mg dbol, 10 iu’s of gh 3x weekly and you will grow like crazy.
This is how it works, its very simple, all the new magic drugs in the world will never replace fact. Run your blood tests every 12 weeks, if liver values are out of wack or lipid profiles are bad cut the orals for 6-8 weeks and retest. I am not recommending this as a way to live a long life i am just cutting to the chase…this is how it is done.
I think Deca is a great drug that gets a bad rep because people don’t know how to take it properly. If people would learn to cycle it the right way (with test, in lower dose than test, and cut it out in time so the longer ester can clear before the test ester dose) then it is a great choice. unfortunately most people don’t cycle it properly.
Sorry for the hijack.
I agree that the new compounds may not be all they are cracked up to be. I ran IGF with my last cycle as I was tapering the dose and noticed some small changes (the muscles injected seemed to get a little freakier shape to them which is cool, maybe I can just see the muscle seperations a bit better but they seemed to kinda pop out more and be more defined, also got a little more vascular).
I haven’t tried hGH yet but would like to some time in the future. I will def run it with test and likely deca.