Pettition to Stop Whaling

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[quote]Sikkario wrote:
^^^^^^Agreed^^^^^^^

I joined this site cuz it is called Testosterone Nation, but it seems more like Vagina Monlogues. It’d be cool if we acted like real psychos and banned gotted banned for cry-pology posts. Just a thought…:D[/quote]

Testosterone Nation is not about being a dickhead. A real man is not someone who doesnt care about anything - a real man stands up for what he feels is right.

T-Nation is the home of the bad boys, but we are VIRTUOUS bad boys. Conforming to moral and ethical principles; morally excellent; upright.

To be honest, Im not a big whale fan, but I do feel that it is not right for certain factions of mankind to be decimating the populations of all other species all in the name of greed. So thats why I have signed my name to the petition.

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I personally don’t like whales, because like…man…they have like gigantic penises, their peckers are about like 4 feet long and mine is well…substantially less. Honestly man, if I could, I would kill of em. In a rage of penis envy. :C

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[quote]John S. wrote:
Are we seriously getting that bored that we are going to bitch about wailing now?

Fun little question for you. How would you take care of the people who’s lives for generations have depended on that?

People first then animals.[/quote]

It’s not bitching - it is about bringing an issue to the forefront.

Those people whose lives depend on whaling; this doesn’t go back for that many hundreds of years. Before they were whaling; before the technology was introduced to them; they were doing something else. They can be taught to support themselves by other means. It’s not the only way to live and humans are highly adaptible; we can adapt to just about any situation given.

It is insanity because these are intelligent, wondrous creatures with brains as big as ours. There are even theories that they are just as smart as us but choose to live their society in different ways.

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Man you should be a politican dude, you realize whales are total ASSHOLES. Like someone who is against whaling, is also the kind of person who is against cutting down the rainforest right? But do you realize PLANKTON, actually produces 92% of the worlds oxygen, and that is ALL those fat fucking whales EAT. What a bunch of selfish shits, thats why they are so FATTT too, I swear. Seriously man, if we killed all the whales, then we wouldn’t have to worry about oxygen and we could like chop down every goddamn tree on the planet, I could have a toothbrush made of mohagany. And wind would go crazy cuz nothing was stoping it, so we wouldn’t need GAS or NUCLEAR ENERGY, and we could jsut like SAIL EVERYWHERE, and power evyerhting with WINDMILLS. YOU DONT THINK THIS STUFF THROUGH MAN! THINK FOR GODSAKES! THINK!

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BTW, when my BRO was in Japan for school, he actually ate some whale, just cuz like, it was an experience I guess. He said they taste terrible, it is like a big piece of oily fat that is rubbery as hell with no flavor at all.

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[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
John S. wrote:
Are we seriously getting that bored that we are going to bitch about wailing now?

Fun little question for you. How would you take care of the people who’s lives for generations have depended on that?

People first then animals.

It’s not bitching - it is about bringing an issue to the forefront.

Those people whose lives depend on whaling; this doesn’t go back for that many hundreds of years. Before they were whaling; before the technology was introduced to them; they were doing something else. They can be taught to support themselves by other means. It’s not the only way to live and humans are highly adaptible; we can adapt to just about any situation given.

It is insanity because these are intelligent, wondrous creatures with brains as big as ours. There are even theories that they are just as smart as us but choose to live their society in different ways.[/quote]

Wow, your love for wales is very over the top. These people make there living off this legal industry. Taking away there jobs is just inhumane. While you are bitching about some alleged animal cruelty, maybe your next move should be to go after deer hunters. You know killing them for sport and all.

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Johnny Blaze…you are a moral entrepreneur…on a site which supports steroids…defending whales…

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[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
otoko wrote:
OctoberGirl wrote:
There is also the slaughter of sharks for their fins.

Japan really needs to up their soy intake, do us all a favor.

That’s the Chinese. Shark fin soup is a Chinese dish.

it isn’t limited to China or Japan, it is gaining popularity all over Asia.

"Who Eats Shark Fin Soup?
Although Chinese and Japanese primarily consume the dish, the consumption is increasing in western societies with affluent consumers, Asian and non-Asian. "

http://www.sharkstewards.com/issue_finning.htm

Unfortunately it is a gourmet and an expensive dish and therefore a lucrative business for the shark fin companies.

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There wasn’t nearly enough information on that link. Hong Kong handles the majority of the trade in shark fin. Though they import alot of shark fin from Europe; Spain, France, Italy, Portugal and Scandanavia(Norway). Those are the main exporters. Even the US exports shark fin. Japan does also but is a fraction of the main exporters.
If you take into account what some surveys of shark fin consumption in China(and Hong Kong) say, 50 to 80 percent have eaten shark fin soup. Usually during celebrations. That is a huge number of people. Japanese people have no culture associated with shark fin soup. They don’t eat it at any celebrations. No one eats it at home. I get the feeling that they are just lumping the Chinese and Japanese together.
The data compiled by the Wildlife Conservation society show that:
“In 1999, 85 countries from all over the world exported unprocessed dried or salted shark fins to Hong Kong. Of these countries, the leading contributor to the trade by far was Spain which exported over 2 million kg or 27% of the total. Spain�??s dominance in the shark fin trade is further emphasized when its exports are compared to the second ranked country, the United States, which produced only a quarter of Spain�??s quantity and only 7% of the Hong Kong total. The other European countries exporting shark fins in 1999 did so in relatively small quantities: Norway exported 39,000 kg, Portugal contributed 4,000 kg, and France and the Slovak Republic were responsible for 1,000 kg and 500 kg, respectively. The vast majority of sharks being caught by Spanish boats are Blue shark.”

Japan is guilty of hunting whales under the guise of scientific research. Of hunting for sharkfin, no. It is also peculiar that the information you cited stated that Japan was second in consumption, it must be an extremely distant second because of the disparity in populations between Japan and China and that Japan isn’t much of an exporter of sharkfin and that Japan has no cultural history of sharkfin consumption. It doesn’t really add up.

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[quote]Sikkario wrote:
Johnny Blaze…you are a moral entrepreneur…on a site which supports steroids…defending whales…[/quote]

Nothing wrong or immoral about supporting steroids, I’m all for them.

Steroids and whales go hand in hand. How do you think they get so big? Plankton and krill alone can’t account for their massive physiques. Them whales are juicers! :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]John S. wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
John S. wrote:
Are we seriously getting that bored that we are going to bitch about wailing now?

Fun little question for you. How would you take care of the people who’s lives for generations have depended on that?

People first then animals.

It’s not bitching - it is about bringing an issue to the forefront.

Those people whose lives depend on whaling; this doesn’t go back for that many hundreds of years. Before they were whaling; before the technology was introduced to them; they were doing something else. They can be taught to support themselves by other means. It’s not the only way to live and humans are highly adaptible; we can adapt to just about any situation given.

It is insanity because these are intelligent, wondrous creatures with brains as big as ours. There are even theories that they are just as smart as us but choose to live their society in different ways.

Wow, your love for wales is very over the top. These people make there living off this legal industry. Taking away there jobs is just inhumane. While you are bitching about some alleged animal cruelty, maybe your next move should be to go after deer hunters. You know killing them for sport and all.

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As I said before, I’m no big whale fan. But I know when something is clearly wrong to do.

If these whale hunters keep on doing what they’re doing, all the whales will be gone anyway. So they’re fucking themselves up the ass. In the long run they are screwed, no matter what. They will have nothing left to hunt within a century at the rate they are going, believe me. Then their younger generations will pay the price. So they might as well learn to do something new because they are shitting in their own backyard and eventually it will overwhelm them.

You think I don’t care about people? Look, if I defend animals this fervently, you can be rest assured that I would take a ten times stronger approach on defending human rights.

Legality, industry and jobs are not always the compass for what is right or wrong. Plenty of legal things shouldn’t be legal. Plenty of illegal things shouldn’t be illegal. Plenty of industries are poisoning, corrupting, enslaving, killing in the name of profit. They are the ones who are inhumane. Plenty of jobs out there are useless or destructive jobs.

Do you think that just because deforestation is a “legal industry providing jobs”, that it should be allowed to continue, even though it will in the future, deprive us of the very air we breathe? If you believe in such things, you are horribly shortsighted.

I care about humans too - but sometimes people gotta think beyond their own anthropocentric world of petty concerns such as work, taxes, ipods, whatever the celebrities are doing, etc. and look at the wider reality around us.

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What ever happened to the Hartford Whalers ?

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[quote]IceGiant wrote:
What ever happened to the Hartford Whalers ?[/quote]

I think the Japanese got to them too.

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[quote]Sikkario wrote:
Johnny Blaze…you are a moral entrepreneur…on a site which supports steroids…defending whales…[/quote]

your an idiot my friend.

idiot

you posted on another thread that you are…

and then you post this exactly 2mins later.

why bother?

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Haha man I can’t believe that this campaign has lasted this long!

Lol you old farts are showing your age on this one :wink:

Anyway I signed up, simply because I love killer whales. The rest are boring lol

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[quote]phox wrote:
blok wrote:
Ren wrote:
yes, whaling, cool.

How bout we focus on some species in more dire need of help?

like humans

True. Not to hijack, but I saw a commercial on tv the other day asking for people to pledge money to help dogs and cats. Are we serious? There’s millions of people in the world that have to eat their own feet for breakfast.

Whales can suck my balls. [/quote]

I don’t know about this. I’ve met a lot more humans I’d like to kill than I have whales.

Whales are pretty cool in my book, they just float around and don’t bother anybody. Humans can be annoying as shit.

If there were a combo petition for “save the whales and increase the rate of capital punishment”, I’d be all for it.

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[quote]phox wrote:
blok wrote:
Ren wrote:
yes, whaling, cool.

How bout we focus on some species in more dire need of help?

like humans

True. Not to hijack, but I saw a commercial on tv the other day asking for people to pledge money to help dogs and cats. Are we serious? There’s millions of people in the world that have to eat their own feet for breakfast.[/quote]

For real? Wow. I knew things were bad, but that’s billions of feet we’re talking about over the course of a year. That’s atrocious, yet no one seems to care. Does anyone want to help me start a “Save the Feet” campaign?

Not on Our Watch! (aside: the Save Darfur slogan cracks me up. If it hasn’t been happening on “our watch” then when does our shift begin, because it’s been going on and continuing for quite a while now).

I am jealous.

DB

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[quote]phox wrote:
True. Not to hijack, but I saw a commercial on tv the other day asking for people to pledge money to help dogs and cats. Are we serious? There’s millions of people in the world that have to eat their own feet for breakfast.[/quote]

Maybe we can feed the dogs and cats to the feeteaters and solve both problems.

Let me know if you need more solutions.