Personal Trainer Issue

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[quote]jackzepplin wrote:
Are you kidding? I can’t even begin to think of how someone could come to the conclusion that a trainer is nothing more than a text book.
~ jack[/quote]

Okay, I really didn’t mean to offend anyone. I promise! :o) In my experience, good trainers, esp. at places like 24-hour fitness, are few and far between. I’m certain there are plenty of you out there who are awesome, and if I could find (and afford) one of you, I would be thrilled! I think what I should have said was, “Why pay a personal trainer who doesn’t meet your needs if you read this site?” My reasoning was that most gym newbies do fine with the average trainer, but someone who has experience and knowledge about working out might require a slightly higher caliber of trainer…like you, perhaps, jackzeppelin. :o)

Again, no offense intended to any trainers!

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[quote]CDarklock wrote:
Oh, and BuckeyeGirl, while a good build isn’t necessarily indicative of a good trainer… isn’t it sort of necessary in a good trainer? If you ask me, someone with Andy Richter’s waistline is not a credible personal trainer.
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I never said it wasn’t necessary. Stating that all people with good builds aren’t good trainers isn’t the same thing as saying that all people with good builds are bad trainers.

My point was to look past the outside and make sure that he/she knows something about training.

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[quote]CDarklock wrote:
Oh, and BuckeyeGirl, while a good build isn’t necessarily indicative of a good trainer… isn’t it sort of necessary in a good trainer? If you ask me, someone with Andy Richter’s waistline is not a credible personal trainer.
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I never said it wasn’t necessary. Stating that all people with good builds aren’t good trainers isn’t the same thing as saying that all people with good builds are bad trainers.

Saying that a good build equals a good trainer is like saying that someone who is a great football/basketball/baseball player will certainly make a good coach. Not saying it never happens, but is it always true?

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Im a personal trainer myself and believe me if I did what your trainer did to you to any of my clients Ill get fired right on the spot.

Ask around chances are there are better options.

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As a Coporate Fitness trainer I agree with most of what is written. And yes this web site does provide a lot of information.

But, your average joe that works in a high pace enviroment will still need a trainer no matter how much info is provide in this web site.

Just, because they don’t have the time to transfer the info on this web site to their daily work-outs. They would rather pay someone to formulate a work-out for them, and to make sure they are doing it right.

I do believe though in the original post though this trainer did screw up and should be kissing your ass. To keep you as a client. Most trainer fail to relize eventhough we are trainers we are providing a service at that service needs to be 5 stars for every client. Not, just to your favorite ones either.

And that 40 client thing is BS. He wouldn’t be taking a lunch break if he was suppose to be training u if the other cilent didn’t show. What a pansy.

Whether your in a corporate setting or in a health culb or even a hotel/apt complex. As a Personal Trainer your job is to first provide excellent customer service and then second which is equally important is to train.

In Health,
Silas C.

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Buckeye Girl is right. If you’ve been reading this site for any length of time and have been learning about training and nutrition from other knowledgable sources, then why the hell would you hire a personal trainer? Sure, some personal trainers actually care about their clients and know what they are doing, but to tell you the truth, after working out in a commercial gym for a decent period of time, most of them don’t know what the hell they are doing, they just give the client some generic program. Couldn’t agree more with Buckeye Girl.

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Stacked-

Generic or not its a progarm that the client can follow for an hour w/ the trainer.

People that usually hire personal trainers are people that are in high profile business client or the elite eternainer.

Usually, they do not have the time to research a progarms on this web site and also determine which one is suitable for them.

If your in the office lets say from 6:30am - 7:00pm or sometimes even lator like most of my clients are and you only have a window of 1hr to work-out would you want to work-out w/ a trainer or by yourself?

And please don’t say do the research on the weekend or something like that. Their weekend they want to spend time with their family not to rsearch on what type of work-outs they should be doing.

By the way do you realize that most of these programs on T-nation is generic also. It doesn’t cater to you specific needs or wants. You still have to talior these programs to your goals also.

By the way its not that my client’s aren’t capable of work-out by themselves. Which I think a lot of my clients can work-out by themselves which I always teach and encourage but, they find it easier book training session the to work-out on their own.

One of my client’s said it perfectly, I was giving him a challenging
exercise which I consider a (intermedite exercise). A travelling lunge w/ a reverse lunge. He said “I get paid to think when I am upstiars. I don’t want to think right now. This exercise involves too much of the brain”.

So, we 86 the exercise and moved on.

In Health,

Silas C.

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[quote]Stacked wrote:
If you’ve been reading this site for any length of time and have been learning about training and nutrition from other knowledgable sources, then why the hell would you hire a personal trainer?[/quote]

I have a little mental list of rules I follow, because they tend to encourage success. (I may at some point in my life feel qualified to write a “Seven Habits” style book, but not just yet.) One of those rules is “delegate to experts”: if you want the job done right, get it done by an expert.

Getting my body into the shape I want is something that I definitely want done right, and I am not an expert on this subject. So I’ll get an expert. The easiest way to get an expert is to hire one, so that’s what I did.

The problem with this rule is that everyone thinks of himself as an expert. So you can’t just grab an expert, you need to educate yourself enough to identify an expert and evaluate his work. Which is why, even though I’ve hired an expert to do this job, I am still here educating myself on how the job needs to be done.

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Hey, I don’t mean to change the subject, but early in the thread you crapped on the head of the Apex corporation. Any special reason? Are they really that bad? I had heard some good things from pretty reliable sources. I was just wondering if I was missing something.

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[quote]smallnomore wrote:
early in the thread you crapped on the head of the Apex corporation. Any special reason? Are they really that bad?[/quote]

Depends on what you mean by “that bad”.

In my opinion, Apex charges too much for their supplements, makes dubious claims about their effects, and hasn’t the hard science to back up their hypotheses. In short, I don’t trust them. I think they puff themselves up too much and don’t walk their talk.

Now, what your Apex shill will tell you is that Apex is a very stable and reliable company; that they manufacture to high standards of quality; and that they conduct extensive testing on their products. All of these things are true.

You will also hear that Apex factories are inspected by the FDA, because among other things they manufacture aspirin. This is also true, AFAIK.

All this means is that when you buy a bottle that says “100mg iodine capsules (90 count)”, you are indeed getting exactly 90 capsules, each of which contains exactly 100mg of iodine. It does NOT mean that 100mg of iodine is a good thing for you to take, or that the capsules ONLY contain iodine, or that you will get the results the bottle says you will get. But it will, indeed, be exactly what the bottle says it is.

In comparison to a lot of supplement companies, this does make Apex a great company. Some companies use impure ingredients, substitute ingredients, or even dangerous ingredients. Some companies have radically different dosages in their supplements than the package says; there was a recent scandal about this with liquid creatine, I believe.

But I’m not satisfied with a company that just gives me what they say they’re giving me. I want a company to have what I need, tell me why I need it, identify the scientific basis of that claim, and charge a reasonable price. Apex doesn’t do that.

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cool, thanks for the input.