Per aspera ad astra (strongman Koestrizer)

Vegetables don’t count as carbs generally, conceivably there might be a few that you’d want to consider as a carb source eventually but initialled you don’t have to. It also depends what volume you are ingesting.

So, let’s say you’re making salmon with a pea sauce (beautiful pairing if you’ve never had it). That’d be less than a hundred gram of peas per portion so it doesn’t matter and I’d happily consider it a P+F (protein+fat) meal myself.

However, let’s say you roast a spaghetti squash in the oven and you have half of it. That’d be around two hundred calories. 50g of carbs. While it is a low GI carb, and a vegetable, I’d count it as a carb at that point since its a semi-substantial amount.

So, I hope the above let’s you see that the crudest guideline I can give you has some potential pitfalls but that most of the time you’ll find yourself in the first scenario rather than the latter.

And the guideline is this: 6-10 cups of vegetables per day.

If you actually practice some variety in your vegetable choices then the impact of vegetables on your calorie/carb intake will be negligible.

To be explicit: if one day part of that allotment is made up of two cups of spinach and another two cups of paprika then the average between the pair is insignificant.

However, if you every day opt for peas, beets, and corn then yeah, those ten cups might hold you back eventually.


I also tend to not have vegetables post-workout as they slow digestion and rarely pre-workout (the exception being spinach and kale because of their potassium content). Or broccoli and cauliflower as they are myostatin inhibitors.

5 – Eat cauliflower and broccoli to grow more muscle.
Eating some cooked cauliflower and broccoli every day inhibits a protein called myostatin, thus allowing muscles to grow beyond their normal genetic limitations.

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