People strike back at the "healthcare" industry

So government contracts and DARPA aren’t a thing?

Your emotional appeals are inherently dishonest. If insurance companies simply paid out every single claim immediately, they would go out of business and nobody would have insurance. Medical care is expensive. These scientists are playing God by trying to prevent death, and that costs an immense amount of money. Yes, the system could be better, but only with further technological development to make medical care cheaper. Yes, the government should also step in to stop the artificial inflation of some medicines, and it’s failing by not doing so.

The problem with you leftists is that you think with your emotions. It’s also why your ideas have such wide appeal, and it’s also why they so often fail.

You mean enslave them. And it wouldn’t be good because they would be killed. That’s how things work there.

That isn’t what is happening. They deny simply to deny in order to delay paying. This isn’t about taking time to review claims because they aren’t doing that. Claims get denied in a matter of seconds, not after a thorough review. Also, pre authorized claims get denied. There’s a reason why these people are under investigation.

I can agree with the government interfering with competition for labor in some ways. But how does it hinder human resource development? I haven’t heard this argument before and would like to see what you mean.

Even Elon is scratching his head.

Of course government contracts exist.

Has anyone from the government ever prepped a duck for you so you could leave after 8 hours?

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I didn’t deny that in my post, which you seem to have misunderstood. But the main issue is not whether or not the behavior of insurance companies is moral. Claiming that Brian Thompson committed murder because his company denied people coverage is extremely dishonest. The world of insurance is complex and their denial of coverage speaks to how expensive medical care is. Maybe they need to be regulated more so that this issue is handled differently, but the fact is that Luigi Mangione murdered someone in cold blood. It was completely unjustifiable, regardless of whatever resentments he had or whatever message he was trying to convey. It’s also clear that if Mangione wasn’t attractive according to female standards, the public reaction to his actions would not have been nearly as positive. This speaks to the emotionality of the mob response.

In America we have a democratic process. If the process no longer works, then the government gets overthrown and replaced. It always comes to that eventually. But committing random murders is wrong and makes things worse.

Kind of. I’ve worked with prison release programs.

Also it’s funny that I’m the duck guy now. It’s either redneck or high falutin.

Yeah that’s not the same thing. You were a government contractor, which you are free not to do if you wish. Unlike in Nazi Germany. Unlike under a DSA regime would be.

People on the right, typically, will call a woman who gets an abortion, even if it is legal, a murderer. They call abortion murder. You know this. So there goes your sophomoric and simple argument about leftists thinking emotionally.

With that out of the way, if we agree that legally it isn’t murder if unethical business practices result in death, it doesn’t make them any less unethical and immoral. You make the mistake of looking at this through a political lens and assume I am as well. That is incorrect. I see this as a consumer, client, customer issue. If you pay for a service or product then you should get what you’ve paid for. If you can’t fulfill your obligations as a business and make money, the answer isn’t to find ways of appearing profitable that violate the contract you have with customers, but to find another business you might be successful at running. Customers shouldn’t have to suffer because you can’t hold up your end.

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He was brainwashed by progressives to just call everyone a Nazi.

I know exactly what a Nazi was, unlike our resident DSA activists.

I don’t use that word lightly at all, unlike Democrats.

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I’m sure you do.

The level of fallaciousness you demonstrated in your first paragraph shows me that there is little benefit in continuing this conversation. I will no longer do so. Maybe we can have a more productive one about another subject in the future.

Point it out.

For once, you’re right. I do.

It would be a disservice to many dead people to remain ignorant of it.

I haven’t read it yet but I’m looking forward to Prof. Zeitelman’s updated version of his book on Hitler. It’s not one I want to skim but don’t have time for it right now.

It completely destroys Marxist narratives with well-supported arguments AND it includes a 66 page introduction where he addresses Marxist criticism from other academics.

It’s no coincidence he lifts.

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Ok. And that is supposed to mean something to me?

Only if you want to read the book and become less stupid. It sounds like you’re just as weak intellectually as you are physically.

What prompted you to undertake a decade plus long DSA activist mission to troll PWI on t-nation, of all places?

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