[quote]stellar_horizon wrote:
P.S. our government [b]did[/b] lie about the mass genocide being instructed under then-president-Milosovic of Serbia preceding the Balkan War. Just like WMD’s were a myth in Iraq to fuel the war machine, so was the alleged genocide in Kosovo. The only mass graves discovered were those of innocent Christians who were slain by Muslim KLA terrorists and which were committed in the post war era.
stellar_horizon wrote:
You take account of 7,000 slain Bosnians and compare it with the stats our govt declared?
Criticism of the Case for War
Some critics have accused the coalition of leading a war in Kosovo under the false pretense of genocide [1]. This was, in fact, no pretense at all. President Clinton of the United States, and his administration, were accused of inflating the number of Kosovar Albanians killed by Serbians[2]. Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William Cohen, giving a speech, said, “The appalling accounts of mass killing in Kosovo and the pictures of refugees fleeing Serb oppression for their lives makes it clear that this is a fight for justice over genocide [3].” On CBS’ Face the Nation Cohen claimed, “We’ve now seen about 100,000 military-aged men missing…They may have been murdered[4].” Clinton, citing the same figure, spoke of “at least 100,000 (Kosovar Albanians) missing[5]”. Later, talking about Serbian elections, Clinton said, “they’re going to have to come to grips with what Mr. Milo?evi? ordered in Kosovo…They’re going to have to decide whether they support his leadership or not; whether they think it’s OK that all those tens of thousands of people were killed…[6]”. Clinton also claimed, in the same press conference, that “NATO stopped deliberate, systematic efforts at ethnic cleansing and genocide[7].” Clinton compared the events of Kosovo to the Holocaust. CNN reported, “Accusing Serbia of ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Kosovo similar to the genocide of Jews in World War II, an impassioned President Clinton sought Tuesday to rally public support for his decision to send U.S. forces into combat against Yugoslavia, a prospect that seemed increasingly likely with the breakdown of a diplomatic peace effort[8].” Clinton’s State Department also claimed Serbian troops had committed genocide. The New York Times reported, “the Administration said evidence of ‘genocide’ by Serbian forces was growing to include ‘abhorrent and criminal action’ on a vast scale. The language was the State Department’s strongest yet in denouncing Yugoslav President Slobodan Milo?evi?[9].” The State Department also gave the highest estimate of dead Albanians. The New York Times reported, “On April 19, the State Department said that up to 500,000 Kosovar Albanians were missing and feared dead[10].”
The United Nations Charter does not allow military interventions in other sovereign countries with few exceptions which in general need to be decided upon by the United Nations Security Council. The issue was brought before the UN Security Council by Russia, in a draft resolution which - inter alia - would affirm “that such unilateral use of force constitutes a flagrant violation of the United Nations Charter”. China, Namibia and Russia voted for the resolution, the other members against, thus it failed to pass.[11][12]
On April 29, 1999 Yugoslavia filed a complaint at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) at The Hague against ten NATO member countries (Belgium, Germany, France, Great Britain, Italy, Canada, The Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and the USA). The Court did not decide upon the case because Yugoslavia was not a member of the UN during the war.
Hmmmm, somehow a death toll of 7,000 doesn’t equate with a figure of 500,000 - but it sounds good for igniting a war now doesn’t it! And please note that this figure of 7,000 includes Muslim Albanians who were feared ?missing?, not necessarily executed; fueled by the perception that Muslim terrorists were slowly dissecting Yugoslavia and waging an exodus upon the indigenous Serbs, it?s feasible that the government would strike back by displacing thousands of Albanians out of Kosovo. This doesn?t mean that those who ended up missing or displaced were actually killed by the Serbs.
And about the reports of alleged genocide which fueled the war against Serbia, how is it that in 2001 a UN-sponsored Supreme Court itself denied that any genocide had taken place? Ummmm?
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Why are you arguing with me, my son? I commended you on your deception and lies.
I would advise you to pick one point and stick to it, though. When you constantly switch the point you are trying to make, you lose credibility.
You began by saying the only mass graves found were those of Christians and that no genocide occurred. We both know this isn’t true, but you should stick with this lie.
When you later start bickering over numbers (trying to say that 7,000 slaughtered Muslims is not a genocide), you are going to drive people with common sense and basic human decency away from you. Even I wouldn’t shrug off 7,000 slaughtered Muslims and thousands of raped women, and I’m a fairly heartless bastard.
You are a fine example of the type of Christians who committed these murders and rapes. Please continue to lead by example.
