Has anyone considered substituting the use of 2 tbsp of peanut butter on the V-Diet? I know the point is basically to pad calories to get to our daily target (going on pure protein, you’d be taking in way more than 1g per 1 lbs of body weight)
However, to me, peanut butter is disgusting and makes me want to gag.
I have choked down enough of it in the past 2.5 weeks I’ve been on the diet. I never would have thought that the hardest part of the diet would be the peanut butter!
Anyway, I don’t have access to other nut butters. Does anyone have any other ideas?
I am considering maybe switching to 2 eggs instead. They have similar caloric values (2 eggs have 155 kcals while 2 tbsp peanut butter has about 188), more protein (12g vs 8g), and a bit less fat (10g vs 16g). Eggs have plenty of Omega 6 fatty acids (1600mg for 2 eggs) Plus it even has more omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin E, and selenium, if you buy good eggs.
This seems like it would fit pretty well in the V-Diet, while nearly getting some solid food in daily. It would make the days go by easier, and would fit the V-Diet profile quite well.
If any V-Diet gurus have any thoughts on this, I’d love to hear it. Pros, cons, everything.
Or, other ideas on how to get in 200 kcals of fat and extra protein would be appreciated.
Add more flax to 1 or more of your shakes if you don’t like peanut butter. DO NOT add solid food other than the 1 meal per week. I understand your logic, because I thought the same thing about adding something solid…
…And I washed out on the V-Diet on week 3. One little solid snack turns into a meal, then a couple meals, and then the diet is no more.
Looking closer, the lipid profiles seem similar as well. The main saturated fat in both eggs and peanut butter is palmitic acid (16:0), which eggs having 1g of stearic acid, another beneficial saturated fatty acid.
You can compare them at the USDA nutrition database (something I’m sure everyone here has bookmarked).
The more I think about it, the more it seems that 2 eggs are a better choice for the V-Dieter than 2 tbsp of peanut butter.
Perhaps I found a way to make an already awesome diet even better! 
The last 1.5 weeks are gonna be much easier I think 
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Add more flax to 1 or more of your shakes if you don’t like peanut butter. DO NOT add solid food other than the 1 meal per week. I understand your logic, because I thought the same thing about adding something solid…
…And I washed out on the V-Diet on week 3. One little solid snack turns into a meal, then a couple meals, and then the diet is no more.
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The egg doesn’t even have to be solid. You could even drop 2 raw (pasteurized) eggs into the blender. If you’re really concerned about salmonella, just wash the eggs beforehand.
If the whole issue with not having solid meals on the diet is about keeping you on the diet, I’m sure this would work.
I don’t know about you, but I have the ability not to let any solid foods turn into snacking. I am over halfway done, and nothing is making me eat more than my 1 HSM per week.
BTW adding flax to make up 200 kcals is going to take a hell of a lot of extra flax
[quote]lowlight wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Add more flax to 1 or more of your shakes if you don’t like peanut butter. DO NOT add solid food other than the 1 meal per week. I understand your logic, because I thought the same thing about adding something solid…
…And I washed out on the V-Diet on week 3. One little solid snack turns into a meal, then a couple meals, and then the diet is no more.
The egg doesn’t even have to be solid. You could even drop 2 raw (pasteurized) eggs into the blender. If you’re really concerned about salmonella, just wash the eggs beforehand.
If the whole issue with not having solid meals on the diet is about keeping you on the diet, I’m sure this would work.
I don’t know about you, but I have the ability not to let any solid foods turn into snacking. I am over halfway done, and nothing is making me eat more than my 1 HSM per week.
BTW adding flax to make up 200 kcals is going to take a hell of a lot of extra flax ;)[/quote]
200 cals worth of flax isn’t all that much. It’s like 6 tablespoons which easily mix with your shakes. Plus it makes them thicker and gives you some extra fiber, which will help with satiety.
Feel free to PM Shugart since he created the diet. I’m almost positive he’ll tell you to stay away from the eggs.
I only had 1 tbsp per night, and sometimes i forgot or just didn’t have it, i dont feel that eliminating it entirely will hurt you in the slightest.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
lowlight wrote:
Doug Adams wrote:
Add more flax to 1 or more of your shakes if you don’t like peanut butter. DO NOT add solid food other than the 1 meal per week. I understand your logic, because I thought the same thing about adding something solid…
…And I washed out on the V-Diet on week 3. One little solid snack turns into a meal, then a couple meals, and then the diet is no more.
The egg doesn’t even have to be solid. You could even drop 2 raw (pasteurized) eggs into the blender. If you’re really concerned about salmonella, just wash the eggs beforehand.
If the whole issue with not having solid meals on the diet is about keeping you on the diet, I’m sure this would work.
I don’t know about you, but I have the ability not to let any solid foods turn into snacking. I am over halfway done, and nothing is making me eat more than my 1 HSM per week.
BTW adding flax to make up 200 kcals is going to take a hell of a lot of extra flax
200 cals worth of flax isn’t all that much. It’s like 6 tablespoons which easily mix with your shakes. Plus it makes them thicker and gives you some extra fiber, which will help with satiety.
Feel free to PM Shugart since he created the diet. I’m almost positive he’ll tell you to stay away from the eggs.
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I think subbing the PB with more flax sort of defeats the purpose. Acccording to Chris’ posts, the idea of adding PB is to balance out the fats. In other words, add some non-essential fatty acids that you aren’t getting from the flax and fish oil. My point is, eggs will serve the same purpose, if not do a better job at it.
Oh yeah, eggs also add selenium, which I’m sure V-Dieters are missing out on. Selenium is important in thyroid function, converting T4 into the more active T3.
[quote]SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
I only had 1 tbsp per night, and sometimes i forgot or just didn’t have it, i dont feel that eliminating it entirely will hurt you in the slightest.[/quote]
Eliminating it completely would take 200 kcals off your daily intake. If you want to stick to the diet strictly, you NEED to follow the original caloric intake formula AND get at least 1g of protein per 1 lbs of body weight.
Plus as I noted (all my posts are still moderated, so they can take a while to show up), the PB was added for a reason.
Going from 1450 kcals a day to 1250 is quite a big drop.
[quote]lowlight wrote:
Oh yeah, eggs also add selenium, which I’m sure V-Dieters are missing out on. Selenium is important in thyroid function, converting T4 into the more active T3.[/quote]
V-Dieters are missing out on a lot of micro-nutrients, which can be why the diet changes eating habits afterwards. Deprive your body of something long enough and it will start craving it. Most normal folks do this for their whole life, so 28 days isn’t going to kill you.
Look, obviously you like eggs and hate peanut butter and you’re fishing for justification to make the change. So either make the change or don’t.
I PM’d Chris and he replied saying that if it helps keep me on the diet, I should go for it. I am surprised that he responded to a Level 0, but glad he’s not totally against it. I did respond asking what he thought of the idea of eggs being even better than peanut butter for the final version of his Velocity Diet (which from the article, is still in its experimental stages).
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
lowlight wrote:
Oh yeah, eggs also add selenium, which I’m sure V-Dieters are missing out on. Selenium is important in thyroid function, converting T4 into the more active T3.
V-Dieters are missing out on a lot of micro-nutrients, which can be why the diet changes eating habits afterwards. Deprive your body of something long enough and it will start craving it. Most normal folks do this for their whole life, so 28 days isn’t going to kill you.
Look, obviously you like eggs and hate peanut butter and you’re fishing for justification to make the change. So either make the change or don’t.
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The thing is, I am not trying to find justification for swapping PB with eggs. I would do that on my own accord, without sharing the information with anyone.
But what I am saying is, it is possible that eggs are BETTER than PB. Perhaps I’m wrong, but looking at the nutritional facts, I doubt it. I hope Chris will at least consider it, and let us know if it’s better, and if not, why not.
[quote]lowlight wrote:
I PM’d Chris and he replied saying that if it helps keep me on the diet, I should go for it. I am surprised that he responded to a Level 0, but glad he’s not totally against it. I did respond asking what he thought of the idea of eggs being even better than peanut butter for the final version of his Velocity Diet (which from the article, is still in its experimental stages).[/quote]
Well there you go. Pardon my initial skepticism, but many people want to make little substitutions here and there until ultimately what they’re on isn’t even the V-Diet. Speaking of that, how can you be on the diet as a level 0?
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
lowlight wrote:
I PM’d Chris and he replied saying that if it helps keep me on the diet, I should go for it. I am surprised that he responded to a Level 0, but glad he’s not totally against it. I did respond asking what he thought of the idea of eggs being even better than peanut butter for the final version of his Velocity Diet (which from the article, is still in its experimental stages).
Well there you go. Pardon my initial skepticism, but many people want to make little substitutions here and there until ultimately what they’re on isn’t even the V-Diet. Speaking of that, how can you be on the diet as a level 0?
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Let’s just say, I have made quite a few substitutions, while maintaining almost exactly the same diet. I tried to post my substitutions, but my post was moderated and deleted.
I kept ALL fundamentals identical. Same nutrients are going in, just different brands.
I’d like to share with you, but I think I would get banned or something. Just know that the V-Diet can be done without Biotest, but you have to be careful about it.
Metabolic Drive really is the best protein supplement for the job, but with due care, it can be replaced. You just have to be very cautious about it, because Metabolic Drive has some ingredients that other supps are lacking.
[quote]lowlight wrote:
Let’s just say, I have made quite a few substitutions, while maintaining almost exactly the same diet. I tried to post my substitutions, but my post was moderated and deleted.
I kept ALL fundamentals identical. Same nutrients are going in, just different brands.
I’d like to share with you, but I think I would get banned or something. Just know that the V-Diet can be done without Biotest.[/quote]
No, it can’t be done without Biotest. You sir are on a liquid diet of your own design, and best of luck to you on said diet. Good day.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
No, it can’t be done without Biotest. You sir are on a liquid diet of your own design, and best of luck to you on said diet. Good day.
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LOL
hahahahaha
Sorry but… that’s hilarious. Coming from someone who lasted 3 weeks.
Anyway, my nutrition is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my workout is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my NEPA is EXACTLY like the V-Diet. And guess what? My results are EXACTLY like the V-Diet! Wow!
Good day indeed! You just made it even better! Thanks 
[quote]lowlight wrote:
SamuraiWannaBe wrote:
I only had 1 tbsp per night, and sometimes i forgot or just didn’t have it, i dont feel that eliminating it entirely will hurt you in the slightest.
Eliminating it completely would take 200 kcals off your daily intake. If you want to stick to the diet strictly, you NEED to follow the original caloric intake formula AND get at least 1g of protein per 1 lbs of body weight.
Plus as I noted (all my posts are still moderated, so they can take a while to show up), the PB was added for a reason.
Going from 1450 kcals a day to 1250 is quite a big drop.[/quote]
I had no problems… sooooo its kind of a moot point. my 4 week results droped 16 pounds and nearly 3 inches off my wasit, dropped another pound in teh first transition week and a notehr 1/2 inch off the wasit… sooooo i’de say that the times i missed the PB didn’t really makea difference, but to each their own i guess…
[quote]lowlight wrote:
LOL
hahahahaha
Sorry but… that’s hilarious. Coming from someone who lasted 3 weeks.
Anyway, my nutrition is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my workout is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my NEPA is EXACTLY like the V-Diet. And guess what? My results are EXACTLY like the V-Diet! Wow!
Good day indeed! You just made it even better! Thanks :D[/quote]
What was so hilarious? I simply said you weren’t on the V-Diet because you aren’t on the V-Diet. Obviously that’s not a bad thing since you’re making progress. Keep it up!
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
lowlight wrote:
LOL
hahahahaha
Sorry but… that’s hilarious. Coming from someone who lasted 3 weeks.
Anyway, my nutrition is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my workout is EXACTLY like the V-Diet, my NEPA is EXACTLY like the V-Diet. And guess what? My results are EXACTLY like the V-Diet! Wow!
Good day indeed! You just made it even better! Thanks
What was so hilarious? I simply said you weren’t on the V-Diet because you aren’t on the V-Diet. Obviously that’s not a bad thing since you’re making progress. Keep it up!
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I guess it’s a matter of semantics. I guess I am not on the ‘official’ diet. Still, you can’t just dismiss my ‘version’ as being useless or crap or whatever. It’s at LEAST as good as the original. And it’s even closer to the original that Samurai’s version!
Anyway, I really hope Chris considers the egg thing, and perhaps even changes the final version of his diet in the end. It might be too late for that now though…