[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
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Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
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No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it
[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
The way I see it, Ryan has balls - something Romney is lacking. He’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind. He says what he means and means what he says. He doesn’t flip-flop like Romney.
CS[/quote]
Ryan may be the right VP choice but IMO Romney is the wrong Presidential choice
The more I’m learning, the more the choice makes sense.[/quote]
I’m sure he’s a great guy with plenty of positive attributes. But, the choice makes no sense. If Romney was going to move the ball down the field he needed someone other than Paul Ryan and here’s why.
Ryan does not help attract women as he is hard right and looks like a cross between Gomer Pyle and the science geek that you hated in high school. Hey, at least put him in a suit jacket that actually fits. Quick someone wake the Romney media guys. They must be out to lunch with the advisors who told Romney not to respond when Obama was destroying Romney’s reputation with a pack of lies.
Ryan doesn’t help pull Florida or Ohio two states that are must have states if Romney is going to win.
He does not help pull independents which are a key voting block and will no doubt decide the election.
He doesn’t help with minorities. What good reason has Romney given them to vote for him with the Ryan pick?
In short, if Romney is lucky and the stars line up just right the Paul Ryan pick won’t hurt him too badly. But as for helping him capture important states and key demographic groups which can put him over the top, Ryan is an absolute zero!
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.)
The more I’m learning, the more the choice makes sense.[/quote]
I’m sure he’s a great guy with plenty of positive attributes. But, the choice makes no sense. If Romney was going to move the ball down the field he needed someone other than Paul Ryan and here’s why.
Ryan does not help attract women as he is hard right and looks like a cross between Gomer Pyle and the science geek that you hated in high school. Hey, at least put him in a suit jacket that actually fits. Quick someone wake the Romney media guys. They must be out to lunch with the advisors who told Romney not to respond when Obama was destroying Romney’s reputation with a pack of lies.
Ryan doesn’t help pull Florida or Ohio two states that are must have states if Romney is going to win.
He does not help pull independents which are a key voting block and will no doubt decide the election.
He doesn’t help with minorities. What good reason has Romney given them to vote for him with the Ryan pick?
In short, if Romney is lucky and the stars line up just right the Paul Ryan pick won’t hurt him too badly. But as for helping him capture important states and key demographic groups which can put him over the top, Ryan is an absolute zero![/quote]
The “X” factor in these pics is 1) was he the first choice and 2) who “failed” vetting and why.
While I’ve never been, and never will be, a “political insider”; I would imagine that these choices often come down to “the best choice available”.
Mufasa[/quote]
You make some good points. But, Marco Rubio would almost have to be a closet ax murderer before I picked Paul Ryan over him. What about Condi Rice, who could have helped capture a larger share of women, and maybe chipped into the minority vote a bit? What about Chris Christie who is well loved by most for his candor and could have won the independents? What about Rob Portman from Ohio, who could have delivered one of the most important states? Did all of these people fail the vetting process? No way!
Instead of going for the win Romney went for someone who could shore up the base. Now can you, or anyone else tell me how that helps him actually win the election?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Yeah I am thick so tell me what should we do with all these unemployed people ?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Yeah I am thick so tell me what should we do with all these unemployed people ?
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NOT reward them to stay home and collect free money!
Psychology 101, any behavior that is rewarded is usually repeated.
I don’t blame the people nearly as much as I blame the government and especially Obama for increasing dependency on government.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Another quesyion (sorry I do not get it )If Oil Companies and Banks are doing so well , why are we giving them money ? Why are we giving other countries money? We can forget about the military I know you may short circuit:)
I’ve said more than once that I think Conservatives will come out in record numbers this election; and that the “Not Obama” vote is rock solid. In other words, I just don’t think that the base needed any more incentive to vote than the President himself.
Now…there are (some?/many?) whom have indicated that they will stay home rather than vote for Romney (even on this Forum). But my gut feeling is that this is a small number.
Did others say “no” like Christine suggest?
Of course we will never know the real answers. (Until “Game Changer II” comes out, I guess!)
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Yeah I am thick so tell me what should we do with all these unemployed people ?
[/quote]
NOT reward them to stay home and collect free money!
Psychology 101, any behavior that is rewarded is usually repeated.
I don’t blame the people nearly as much as I blame the government and especially Obama for increasing dependency on government.[/quote]
OK so now we 12,000,000 people with no income what do we do now,will they create any problems because they can not eat or support their families ? Who pays for the problems that arise ?
Just curious don’t you think it smarter to (FIRST) take away the money we give to other people that do not need the money ?
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Another quesyion (sorry I do not get it )If Oil Companies and Banks are doing so well , why are we giving them money ? Why are we giving other countries money? We can forget about the military I know you may short circuit:)
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Those are separate issues Pittski.
Learn to focus your thoughts on one thing at a time.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:<<< There are idiots and government moochers at both ends of the Political Spectrum.
Mufasa [/quote]I promise you people who are paid other people’s money through wealth redistribution vote about 95% donkey.
[/quote]
Do you mean farmers , military and oil companies , other countries ,oil companies ,banks ?
[/quote]
No he means the lazy bastards that DO NOTHING and get a government check.[/quote]
oh you mean farmers , other countries ,oil companies and banks ? and probably the list is so long I would be unable to type it[/quote]
No, I mean people who sit on their porch and wait for the welfare check to arrive. The very group that helped put Obama in office and will be lined up to vote for him…probably twice in some states.
(I know you’re thick Pitt but farmers, bankers and oil company employees actually work.) [/quote]
Yeah I am thick so tell me what should we do with all these unemployed people ?
[/quote]
NOT reward them to stay home and collect free money!
Psychology 101, any behavior that is rewarded is usually repeated.
I don’t blame the people nearly as much as I blame the government and especially Obama for increasing dependency on government.[/quote]
OK so now we 12,000,000 people with no income what do we do now,will they create any problems because they can not eat or support their families ? Who pays for the problems that arise ?
Just curious don’t you think it smarter to (FIRST) take away the money we give to other people that do not need the money ?
[/quote]
This generational welfare class was mostly created during LBJ’s great war on poverty back in 1964. Today we have many more people in poverty because of this one man. Generations from now they will look back and see that Obama was the LBJ of his time.
Generations of human beings have grown up knowing only that they are able to live because government hands them a check. This is a mind-set that must end immediately if we even have a slight chance of digging out of this mess.
Remove welfare forever! Make every healthy adult who is now receiving a check from the government to show up at a government building and perform menial labor.
The work equals reward scenario is now restored. And none of this will be done under Obama–NONE OF IT!
[quote]stefan128 wrote:
I’m not a big fan of politics for the mere fact that each party just degrades the other one constantly. Anyways, my parents are both Republicans and will be voting for Romney. My mom cannot stand Obama and would disown me if I voted for him, which I am not. I am not a big fan of Obama just because over and over I hear of how he has not done much for the economy. To the point, by just reading and hearing things, I am getting the idea that if Obama gets reelected that the country is literally fucked. The idea that the US will be a shitty place to live and that so on. I will be voting for Romney, but I feel like Obama is going to win due to all the idiots who vote for him just to do it.(I once heard a girl from my school say I cannot wait to vote for Obama, he is so nice.)[/quote]
He depends on these empty headed imbeciles and those who are dependent on a government hand out to win. And of course I don’t want to leave out the unions. He has rewarded them handsomely for his 08’ win and they’ll be there again this year. [/quote]
Zeb;
I’m sure the Romney will have just as many empty headed imbeciles who are dependent on government hand outs AND Union Members voting for him.
Mufasa[/quote]
You’re sure of that huh? Is that because of my statement? Because you are dead wrong. The democratic party of 2012 is made up of those exact people and a few other groups. Do you honestly think that the 100 million people who collect some form of aid from the government want Obama replaced? Do you honestly think that the majority of union members want Obama replaced?
Mufasa, come on you know better.[/quote]
For the record, I’m a union member and I, along with all of the other union members I stay in touch with, HATE Obama and cant wait to vote him out of office. Despite what the union leadership mails us, we are not blind nor stupid. There was unmitigated prosperity during the Bush years - all the overtime you could work, then when Obama got elected we had 3000 members sitting on the bench? Union MEMBERS aren’t blind, ZEB. The leadership might be traditionally democratic, but that doesn’t mean that the WORKERS don’t know that under a republican we are far more likely to have that single commodity that is most precious to us: A JOB.
(for clarification, I am not currently working in the union, although I am still a dues paying member - it’s only $25 a month. I’m working in the oilfield. But given the years I spent working union, I have pension and annuity that I’m entitled to even if I never work a union job again, so I continue to pay my dues)
[quote]CSEagles1694 wrote:
The way I see it, Ryan has balls - something Romney is lacking. He’s not afraid to say what’s on his mind. He says what he means and means what he says. He doesn’t flip-flop like Romney.
CS[/quote]
I get what you’re saying, CS…
The problem is that Romney is at the top of the Ticket.
One point; during an election, the VP choice is often the “attack Dog”. I think that Ryan will HAVE to be (along with SuperPACS) because Romney just doesn’t seem to “comfortable?” in that role.
Mufasa[/quote]
I agree. Romney (for some reason) wants to stay above the fray. I think Ryan will make a good attack dog, although I question that strategy in general.