[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Sloth wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
Sorry the point slipped right over your head Sloth. Here you go just for you:
Why pick someone that is controversial and who cannot deliver key demographic groups and must have states?
There you go![/quote]
Right. So how in the hell did you back Romney?[/quote]
Easy question.
We had a choice between a bunch of candidates who could NEVER win and one that could possible win. That one is Mitt Romney —I know you don’t like him so he can’t win.
Funny stuff![/quote]
Can win? Then why are you here acting as if he needed Jesus himself as a running mate to have a hope against Obama? When the VP is the better candidate than the nominee, and the VP still isn’t good enough, then your nominee is terrible. Zeb, it just seems like you noticed Romney was tanking even prior to the VP pick, and now you need to retroactively make Ryan the cause.
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Sloth you may have missed my many posts which clearly state the contrary. Let me recap it for you:
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Never said or implied that he needed “Jesus” to be his running mate. And in fact I’ve said many times (right here on this thread) that almost any other candidate would have been better. I even rattled off a short list of the people I thought would be better. Those who could deliver support that he does not currently have. In my opinion Ryan can’t help him and may very well hurt him with key groups.
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I also pointed out that Romney was making serious mistakes in the campaign long before he took Paul Ryan as his running mate. One thing I mentioned was that he was slow on the draw to respond early when the Obama scum machine was painting him as a tax cheat and a murderer. That is Romney’s fault no one else’s.
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I also went on to point out that his second big mistake was picking someone who cannot deliver Florida or Ohio, two must win states. Furthermore, he fails to attract independents and women, two important demographic groups where the GOP is lagging behind.
Essentially, Ryan adds nothing to the ticket. If you were going to vote for Romney before you’ll probably still vote for him. But a Presidential candidate needs to add power to the ticket when choosing a VP nominee. Either geographically, or within key demographic groups. The Ryan pick while getting all the conservatives exicted did none of that.
Are we clear now as to why I don’t like Paul Ryan as the VP pick?
Keep in mind that it has nothing to do with me not liking Paul Ryan as a politician, I do. I just don’t like him in the VP slot. He would have made a heck of a treasurery secretary.
Many people here on T Nation confuse who THEY like with who can actually help the ticket. [/quote]
With your view of the mismanagement by Romney of his campaign in so many instances, do you think that gives confidence to the voter of his abilities in actually governing as president?
Or is it just the ‘anyone but Obama’ view that you think makes him the better choice?[/quote]
All political stereotyping aside Mitt Romney is a very capable guy. He has a resume that Obama wishes he had. However, campaigns at this level can get very convoluted for a myriad of reasons. In the end perhaps Romney thought that running negative attack ads on Obama would have backfired. So he decided to take the shots thus taking the high road. From my experience that rarely works as it allows your opponent the opportunity to color you as something you’re not. Will Romney forever be the rich evil guy that some think he is? Or, will he be able to recast himself in a more positive accurate light?
My feeling is that Romney wanted to keep his powder dry until at or around the republican national convention. By that time he will have roughly two and a half times the amount of cash that the Obama campaign has. And no doubt he will spend every dime explaining to the American people just how bad this President has failed.
Why did he pick Paul Ryan? That is anyone’s guess but I can only assume he wants to look like the candidate who is talking about issues. And that main issue is the economy. However, I think he had the credentials to be the expert on the economy and didn’t need Ryan. Whereas, if he had chosen someone to shore up his weaker areas, foreign policy for example, that would have played better long-term. And as I’ve already said many times, I would have chosen someone who could deliver Florida and in addition to that the independent vote which we must win and a better share of the female vote which is currently off the cliff! How does Ryan help with those two key demographics? I don’t see how he does.
A poor campaign decision does not disqualify Romney from the highest office in the land, not at all. And quite honestly I have no idea if Ryan was a poor decision. I obviosuly think he was but I could easily be proven wrong in the coming weeks. Look for the very next poll to give him a slight bump simply because of all the news coverage. If there is no bump then he’s in trouble. If there is a bump and it holds into the convention Ryan will be looking better. But if the Obama scum machine is able to tarnish Ryan (as they are now trying hard to do) and the gain evaporates then perhaps it was a bad move. It’s all about moving the ball down the field. If Ryan can help him do that then it’s a brilliant choice, if he cannot do that then he’s a poor choice. And by moving the ball down the field I mean gaining ground in the key battle ground states.
