Paternity Testing

countingbeans · October 25, 2011, 2:21am

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I didn’t realize the US didn’t have that law because “sluts and white knights want to maintain the status quo”. Wow. And I live here and all that shit. Thank you for opening my eyes.[/quote]

Yeah, dude, the majority of children are born to loose women who don’t even know who the father is, and just pick a name out of the phone book, biding her time until she can leave him and suck all his money away, to spend $2 on the kids and her hair did with the rest.

Get this, your dad, isn’t even your dad.

SteelyD · October 25, 2011, 2:27am

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I didn’t realize the US didn’t have that law because “sluts and white knights want to maintain the status quo”. Wow. And I live here and all that shit. Thank you for opening my eyes.[/quote]

Yeah, dude, the majority of children are born to loose women who don’t even know who the father is, and just pick a name out of the phone book, biding her time until she can leave him and suck all his money away, to spend $2 on the kids and her hair did with the rest.

Get this, your dad, isn’t even your dad.[/quote]

It’s an epidemic. My mom is all like black and my dad is all like oriental, but damn I look spanish canadian.

My sister is an elf!

SteelyD · October 25, 2011, 2:38am

[quote]Makavali wrote:

It doesn’t for the same reason you don’t have it - sluts and white knights want to maintain the status quo [/quote]

Professor_X · October 25, 2011, 3:49am

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
But the thing is, it isn’t stupid. People do things like this everyday because of “LOVE”.

Then they fight, suddenly hate each other and she ends up on The View telling all of your deep dark secrets to the world for book rights.

I just find it funny how many married guys seem to think they are “safe” from this.

LOL.

It doesn’t look like ANY of them are.[/quote]

Any man that hasn’t thought about this is either lying or a flat out moron. You certainly consider this when you buy the diamond, and I, like many men, have my retainer funds ready to go, should the need arise. My buddies dad calls it the “dirty sock fund”.

But to avoid marriage, and avoid a family because of that fear, to me, is like saying “I’m never going to europe because planes crash.” or “I am never going to go outside because I’ll get skin cancer from the sun.”

I don’t know man. But I’m not going to miss out on some of the most amazing moments of my life out of fear of what may be. Life is too short to run from what I feel is right. [/quote]

Why do you have to be married to have a family?

Broncoandy · October 25, 2011, 4:08am

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
Bullshit. A father never really has custody, as the legal battles often continue until the kid turns 18. Shared custody? Theirs no money in that, so mommy gets a better lawyer, and two years after the divorce the battle flares up again, and dad has to pay his own lawyer through the nose to keep his time with his children. I’ve seen that happen too, but you’ll probably dismiss that as another fairy tale.[/quote]

I’m done conversing about this with you and BA, neither of you can see the situation for anything other than “poor dad gets ass fucked.” [/quote]

That’s because we’re not drinking the kool-aid boss.

[quote]Some website I just googled wrote:
Somewhere between 80 and 100% of men who are employed pay all their ordered child support, depending on who you ask. Even mothers (who are clearly biased against honest reporting in this area) report that 80% of fathers who are employed pay all that they owe. One must ask, of course, how you can expect a man who doesn’t have an income to pay child support.

The huge majority of men who do not pay their child support are either (1) unemployed, (2) in prison, or (3) dead - literally. It is impossible, of course, to collect child support from any of these men, as they are unable to pay. Florida discovered this when they spend more than $4 million and collected a paltry couple of hundred thousand - proof positive that you can’t enforce payment in the event that the obligor simply doesn’t have the money - or isn’t even breathing.

This myth that “deadbeat dads are common” is the fruit of often-cited Census data on child support compliance - data that is fatally flawed. The Census Bureau asked only custodial parents if they were paid in full and on time, and never cross-checked any of their information - nor did they ask the non-custodial parent! Needless to say, asking the recipient alone is akin to asking the fox to guard the henhouse. (Source: US Census Bureau)
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As you said, this isn’t 1986. Today’s technology makes it nearly impossible to dodge support.

Broncoandy · October 25, 2011, 4:57am

Hey, there’s a fun article. Hope none of you have any cum on ice.

countingbeans · October 25, 2011, 11:30am

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

That’s because we’re not drinking the kool-aid boss.

[/quote]

Whatever helps you sleep at night man…

Can you link the webpage you got that other part from?

Loudog75 · October 25, 2011, 1:21pm

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

Hey, there’s a fun article. Hope none of you have any cum on ice.[/quote]

Simple solution:

2 8-balls in the trunk under the spare and an anonymous call to the cops gives you custody and no more baby mama drama. Thank goodness for the war on drugs.

Edevus · October 25, 2011, 1:39pm

Something related.

In Russia, a father of a young kid asked for a DNA test and he filed for divorce when he discovered that he was not the father.
The mother was very shocked towards this and got checked herself…and she was not the mother either.

The hospital had “changed” their kid for another one. Their real kid was living with another family, also unaware that their kid was not the biological one.

They are like 10 years old…too late to switch them back again. Such a strange situation. Both families meet often though.

EDIT : I managed to find a link. Switched at birth, then meeting aged 12 - BBC News

Edevus · October 25, 2011, 1:34pm

About Broncoandy’s link:

[quote]His ex-wife, now 51, said: ?I don?t believe I have done anything wrong. It was getting later and later for me and I wanted to have a child. If I had not done it then I would not be blessed with my children. I have no regrets.?

[/quote]

Hmmm.

[quote]weeks later she visited the clinic and forged his signature, allowing doctors to create embryos from his frozen sperm and her egg.

She gave birth to a girl in June 2001, claiming it was the result of a one-night stand, and a boy in September 2003.

Read more: Man ordered to pay £100,000 for children after ex-wife tricks clinic into using his frozen sperm | Daily Mail Online
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This is a crime. She’s not getting punished by law?

Derek542 · October 25, 2011, 2:05pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For instance, I could get married right now to a woman who doesn’t even work, stay with her for one year…she cheats on me…and I get stuck paying her for years.
[/quote]

You could do that.

But that would be stupid.

“You can’t fix stupid”

You also can’t legislate common sense. You can’t save people from themselves.[/quote]

But the thing is, it isn’t stupid. People do things like this everyday because of “LOVE”.

Then they fight, suddenly hate each other and she ends up on The View telling all of your deep dark secrets to the world for book rights.

I just find it funny how many married guys seem to think they are “safe” from this.

LOL.

It doesn’t look like ANY of them are.[/quote]

Since my wife is on this forum (JLo) I have no comment on this X.

Psst: Nobody is safe from women or the government pass it on.

Professor_X · October 25, 2011, 2:26pm

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
For instance, I could get married right now to a woman who doesn’t even work, stay with her for one year…she cheats on me…and I get stuck paying her for years.
[/quote]

You could do that.

But that would be stupid.

“You can’t fix stupid”

You also can’t legislate common sense. You can’t save people from themselves.[/quote]

But the thing is, it isn’t stupid. People do things like this everyday because of “LOVE”.

Then they fight, suddenly hate each other and she ends up on The View telling all of your deep dark secrets to the world for book rights.

I just find it funny how many married guys seem to think they are “safe” from this.

LOL.

It doesn’t look like ANY of them are.[/quote]

Since my wife is on this forum (JLo) I have no comment on this X.

Psst: Nobody is safe from women or the government pass it on. [/quote]

What if you just don’t get married? I mean, I understand why some of you think like this…we were raised in a society that basically tells us there is something wrong with you if you aren’t married and carrying kids long before 40.

However, it would seem the current generation just now reaching those same ages doesn’t think the same. I have quite a number of associates who some here would call “successful” who would run far away from the idea of marrying someone…much for many of the same reasons I am discussing now.

It is a huge risk unless you really didn’t own shit before meeting her. That’s just a fact…and these comments as if you need to trust her are a little nutty…because I am sure most of the men in divorce court would have told you nothing but how they were soul mates when they first met.

I get why some of you respond the way you do…but it would seem that the response is simply to justify your own actions.

I am asking logically, what is the real benefit of marriage for the guy in the relationship?

I don’t need more spiel about how you don’t matter once you have kids…BECAUSE YOU DO MATTER. Your paycheck matters apparently more than you do if you get divorced and have kids.

Yeah, the system is fucked up…and it won’t be changing any time soon since most of society seems to be filled with white knights and whipped hubbies.

Test_Icicle · October 25, 2011, 2:36pm

[quote]Broncoandy wrote:

Hey, there’s a fun article. Hope none of you have any cum on ice.[/quote]

I would take my 300,000 quid and leave the country. He’s 57, certainly he can get a nice villa in Spain and spend the rest of his life in paradise with the money he otherwise would have spent on lawyers and back support.

Derek542 · October 25, 2011, 2:46pm

@ X in all honesty I was the white night save my X wife from a sexually molesting father, and who I got her pregnant and “married out of chivalry”. I was with her for 5 miserable years and got two great kids. I will not go into my long battle etc. I did the divorce no lawyers and I got my kids 3 days a week every week till about 3 years ago. My son is 20 and daughter turns 18 next month.

I meet my now wife in undergrad and she was married before with 3 children of her own. That was 12 years ago this month.

We married because to blend a family we wanted to set the example, they came from broken homes. We wanted to set the bar on what a true happy marriage is supposed to be.

We did that and are very proud of the decisions we made.

But I do see your point, I think the issue is we are a Christian society and that is why we do what we do.

What Beans is saying is that you no longer see yourself as the center of the universe when you are a father. You are now responsible for a life and the need to protect and raise that life supersedes your own life. Of course we matter, not all fathers become low self esteem mush, most of us still do the same things we did before.

Its just now when I see a 20 year old hot chick, I think Damn my son would love to hit that, instead of Damn I would love to hit that.

smokotime · October 25, 2011, 3:10pm

Just throwing this out there, but shouldn’t your birth certificate have your biological parents on it? Aside from the legal ramifications and everything else, we’ve got means to confirm the father and (though less likely needed) mother of a child if you’re willing to pay.

I don’t think that it should just fall to someone signing when you can be sure. If you don’t want to or can’t afford to pay, then it’s simply a matter of leaving it blank.

There’s a world of difference between being a biological parent and an actual parent to a child; but I’d say a child should be able to trust that if someone is listed as their biological father or mother that it is actually the case.

SteelyD · October 25, 2011, 3:17pm