I agree with the author of this article. The writer is not putting down Pat Tillman, he/she is putting down the nature and value of his death. In other words, is this invasion worth the death of many innocent people? Americans have been misled by their leaders for years. This war is all about economic influence and if you don’t see that, then you are blinded by the rhetoric of people such as your so-called “Leader”. I am angered and saddened by Pat Tillman’s death because I feel it was influenced by his desire to do something of good for his nation. I don’t think he realized what he was really there fighting for; the all-mighty dollar. He gave up millions of dollars to go off and fight for that exact very thing fueled by the American gov’t.
“If the job is done correctly in Afghanistan, it will serve to eliminate a majority those responsible for the planning and carrying out of such acts as 9/11.”
-Rick Bravo
No it won’t considering the majority of them were from Saudi Arabia.
Im sorry, I meant RichM
Rene Gonzales’s article is pathetic!
So what that his death was made famous through his past identity as a NFL Defensive Back, as shown above.
Any Soldier who dies in battle in order to protect his country should be given more respect.
There you go again, Il Cazzo. Don’t you realize by now that no one gives a damn about your uneducated opinions?? So now all of us who serve are sociopaths according to you. That’s a new one; if that’s the case maybe you should consider stopping by your local recruiting station. Like I said before, MAN THE FUCK UP and go tell all that you told me to someone in the military (preferably a Ranger). Go ahead and see what happens. Oh shit, I forgot, your only a tough guy over a keyboard. Do pushups you little fuckstain. RLTW
rangertab75
Brian, although Puerto Rico is an American colony, we Latin Americans refer to them as such. Latin Americans. Like I said, this has nothing to do with where this person is from. Is he an asshole? Yes he is. Are all Latin American assholes? Nope. So this has nothing to do with race or origin.
Peace.
k.
Sonny S -
You will never find another Ranger badmouth Ranger Tillman. RLTW
rangertab75
Flashpoint, i feel the same as you. Just hate everybody, hehehe.
Peace.
k.
Stumpy… “kike” is short for Enrique my name in Spanish, I’m Mexican.
Peace.
k.
i consider him a hero not because he
played football and ran trialathons…
he’s a hero because of strength of
character, his ideals,and choices regardless what everyone else thought.
he stood alone and stood out for choices
he made. 9/11 is what made his choice
for himself and to help the world fighting what may happen again and i want those people protecting the USA and
the rest of the world…he did what i
couldn’t do (i’m deaf) joined up and fought for country. i hope we’ll have more peolple like him…
Barton
It’s pretty typical for an American, such as this author, to take for granted, the life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness that we are all accustomed to. For some, the thought of someone writing such a paper is damned near blasphemous.
We, as Americans, need to realize that the liberties we take for granted, come at a price. This price is paid each time a public servant is killed in the line of duty. Military, police, fire, medical, and on and on… These men and women are warriors and fight to keep our society prosperous and free. Without them, we are weak and vulnerable.
Although the article is poorly written and the reasoning behind why Tillman is not a hero is flawed I believe his hero status is over played because of his celebrity. He is just like anyone else who fights in the armed services and just because he gave up millions to do it does not make him any different. Are all members of the armed forces heroic? I can’t answer that and care not to comment on whether Tillman was a hero or not. He is incredibly brave and idealistic and he deserves and has my respect for enlisting in the armed forces even though I do not support the current conflict in Iraq. He may have been foolish but he was committed and no one can argue with that.
As for Iraq. We should not be there and setting up a democracy there will fail. Tillman’s death can be partly attributed to foolish policy. Check out “The West: Unique, Not Universal” by Samuel Huntington for a good article about the preconditions necessary for democracy and how modernization does not lead to westernization.
And swearing and cursing this author of the article out just makes everyone look more ridiculous than the author. Think…wait…think…write
RangerTab- I don’t doubt you for a second.
Tillman died in Afghanistan, not Iraq. The fact that we are now in Iraq has nothing do with the fact that he gave up every American male’s dream career, $3.6 million, and a wife to go hunt down people who want to kill all of us. He was there protecting MY children while I sit on my ass surfing the T-mag forums. He was 10 times the man I will ever be. Damn right he’s a hero.
YOU GO, RANGERTAB!!!
doogie, thing is he wasn’t there protecting your children. If anything, the war will make life more dangerous for your children in the future. Tillman was there to support the economic greed of the gov’t, unknowingly.
I got mixed feelings about the whole thing.
Yes, I think he was an idiot to say no to $3.6 million but if he’s so financially secure that so much money wasn’t important to him…(I wish I could say I was.)
He did what he thought was right for him and not many people have the guts to do that but to call him a hero because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, I don’t know. I think Americans are a bit too quick to call people heroes.
Don’t get me wrong, I fully support the war on terrorism. I do think the war is fought the wrong way though, too civilized. The terrorists are using that against us. I think the best way would be to give them a warning: Next time you attack us, we will level a city/village at random.
They are attacking civilians so we could do the same. Fight fire with fire. I know it’s not politically correct but I’m sure it would work.
Regarding Rene Gonzalez. I think the best thing would be to send him to Iraq, that way maybe he would get some respect for the guys who put their lives at risk for our safety.
Loopfit you are an idiot. So you are saying we didnt need to go to Afghanistan after 9/11? I will never understand liberals and the way they think.
Liberals-The same people who think there were no good reasons to go to Iraq also want to blame the Bush administration for not going to Afghanistan sooner even though they would have gone nuts had we gone. Craziness.
Loopfit,
I don’t know where you live, but unless you are a terrorist, he was protecting you too. Saying he wasn’t protecting us is utter bullshit. The people who attacked us WERE based in Afghanistan, protected by the Taliban. Now they are on the run. You can’t argue that. Even if you were right (and you aren’t), he did go there to protect us. He believed that, and he was willing to give up all that he had to do what he knew was right. It’s hard as hell for me to admit that I should be there, too.
Sure it would be easier to pretend like he wasn’t making a difference, to mask my cowardice in claims that the war is wrong, but I know it’s right. I know we have to wipe this plague from the face of the earth. I’m just not man enough to leave my kids to go do it.
The very freedom that allows the author to write such articles is what Pat Tillman was fighting for. I wonder if the author knows how many soldiers had to die before those freedoms existed, and how many soldiers continue to die protecting those freedoms. Pat Tillman may not be his hero, but along with all the other man and women who risk their lives protevting this country, he is my hero.