Dude seriously…there is NO comparison between LSD and THC.
You are smarter than that…its like comparing morphine and aspirin.
You are smarter than this…don’t let your childhood viewings of Reefer Madness cloud your judgement.[/quote]
Not true. Someone who has never smoked marijuana before who smokes hash or hydro can have a full blown psychodelic experience. THC has hallucinogenic properties. It distorts perceptions of space and time. Regular smokers may not experience this. Try eating a very large quantity of hash cookies/muffins/brownies - a very large quantity mind - very large - wait an hour and tell me THC doesn’t have the potential to induce profound psychological changes. You’d fall asleep? Okay, fall asleep at the wheel. Whatever. I’m not arguing for government legislation regardless.[/quote]
Any drug taken to the extreme will be harmful…drinking a whole bottle of Robitussin will mess you up, but the recommended dose will be just fine.
As with alcohol and cigarettes (legal) moderation is key…but why is one legal and the other not?
/I know you are not arguing against legalization, but the other sides argument is ridiculous…the cost per unit effort to keep weed illegal is one of the biggest money wasters in our society.[/quote]
We’ve known MJ has been looked at as this big bad wolf since before the 60’s. It became classed with other much more harmful drugs and it never should have been.
As I’ve said before in this thread, come up with a way to test impairment level at that time for MJ and I think you would a significant change in backing from various levels.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Pat Robertson is jumping from the evangelical camp to the libertarian camp. Jerry Falwell wouldn’t have stood for this legalise marijuana crap. The moral minority is evanescing before our very eyes.[/quote]
I’m just pointing out that I don’t consider him a very moral person. He built a fortune funnelling his hate to the masses and hid under the guise of “I don’t hate X, god does.”
The video was an illustration of some of the crap that he spews.
Why is it immoral to smoke weed? Because you can’t drive while high? Surely that’s an issue of being responsible to know when you shouldnt drive, be it tiredness, alchol, or weed. So what if it cause hallucinations, is that immoral in itself? Are you sure you’re not confusing the criminality that arises out of the prohibition of weed with the effects of weed itself?
[quote]Scorched Soul wrote:
Why is it immoral to smoke weed? Because you can’t drive while high? Surely that’s an issue of being responsible to know when you shouldnt drive, be it tiredness, alchol, or weed. So what if it cause hallucinations, is that immoral in itself? Are you sure you’re not confusing the criminality that arises out of the prohibition of weed with the effects of weed itself?[/quote]
From what I’ve seen on this thread and on this board mostly is none of us believe it to be immoral to smoke weed.
The problem lies with not being responsible (just like if you drink too much) jump in your sled and go play demolition derby. Or going into your job and causing an accident. That is where some kind of reliable testing that can tell how impaired a person is, not whether or not they have smoked in the last 30 days.
Excellent suggestion, and as Sloth noted, just be sure I can legally exclude said drug users from any insurance pool I participate in (public or private). Health insurance, life insurance, auto insurance - not my job to underwrite the risk of your stupidity.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Excellent suggestion, and as Sloth noted, just be sure I can legally exclude said drug users from any insurance pool I participate in (public or private). Health insurance, life insurance, auto insurance - not my job to underwrite the risk of your stupidity.
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Would you ask the same of those in your insurance pool that utilize nicotine and imbibe alcohol?
The health risks are at worst the same and at best much better to utilize THC than nicotine and alcohol.
I have a lot of respect for the posts of Bolt, ZEB, and Sex machine in this forum.
But you cannot seriously think that marijuana is in the same category as Meth, Heroin, Cocaine, Crack, Prescription Drugs or even Alcohol and Nicotine in terms of harming the body.
We enable Mexican cartels with a willing market that we could tax ourselves and bring much needed revenue into bankrupt states and at the same time take money from gangsters in Mexico.
We cannot afford to keep up the “war on weed” …that was started after somebody made Reefer Madness, and turned the whole country into some sort of illogical,paranoid science experiment.
However, extracting THC into a fat (butter/oil) or making a THC tincture is no joke. Highly concentrated doses of THC will fuck you up BAD. This is not an overstatement.
I had a friend who took shot of a THC tincture which had the equivalent of 10g of pot in it. He completely lost touch with reality for 3 hours. I won’t go into everything that happened but for a large part of it he was rolling around on the wet grass uttering incoherent babble. He was COMPLETELY unresponsive to anything we’d say or our efforts to feed him water.
So yes THC is classified as a hallucinogenic for a reason.[/quote]
Dude seriously…there is NO comparison between LSD and THC.
You are smarter than that…its like comparing morphine and aspirin.
You are smarter than this…don’t let your childhood viewings of Reefer Madness cloud your judgement.[/quote]
Not true. Someone who has never smoked marijuana before who smokes hash or hydro can have a full blown psychodelic experience. THC has hallucinogenic properties. It distorts perceptions of space and time. Regular smokers may not experience this. Try eating a very large quantity of hash cookies/muffins/brownies - a very large quantity mind - very large - wait an hour and tell me THC doesn’t have the potential to induce profound psychological changes. You’d fall asleep? Okay, fall asleep at the wheel. Whatever. I’m not arguing for government legislation regardless.[/quote]
You are partly correct.
The probability of having an LSD type experience from smoking it even if it your first time is slim (assuming it’s just an average joint). You’d have to smoke an absurd amount of pot to have a psychodelic experience. So yes it’s possible possible but improbable.
However, extracting THC into a fat (butter/oil) or making a THC tincture is no joke. Highly concentrated doses of THC will fuck you up BAD. This is not an overstatement.
I had a friend who took shot of a THC tincture which had the equivalent of 10g of pot in it. He completely lost touch with reality for 3 hours. I won’t go into everything that happened but for a large part of it he was rolling around on the wet grass uttering incoherent babble. He was COMPLETELY unresponsive to anything we’d say or our efforts to feed him water.
So yes THC is classified as a hallucinogenic for a reason.[/quote]
Hmmm, sounds like a good recipe for popcorn butter… Talk about a self feeding problem. You eat, you get high, you get hungry, you eat, you get higher… etc. Allegedly.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
what are you talking about horrible movie? That movie was hilarious! And yes, I own the book. :)[/quote]
You liked it? The first half was okay, but the second half was terrible. Of course, I have an aversion to on screen vomit which was provided in droves.
I don’t think I would have enjoyed a place like Vagas on a bunch of doses. I would much rather traverse to the high desert and get my nature on…
