Paris Attacks

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]kamui wrote:
My brother lives a few streets away from the Bataclan.
My best friend lives close to the Stade de France.

Both are alive.

A friend of a friend (who happens to have bad musical taste) was IN the Bataclan and managed to escape without harm.

And according to facebook most of my parisian friends are safe.

Lucky friday the 13th for me.

going back to lurking mode now.
See you in a dozen of pages.

[/quote]

I was specifically thinking of you. I thank the God of Abraham and Issac that you are ok.
Since you are closest to the situation, any any inside information would be appreciated.
Seriously, I am glad you are ok, or the world would have lost a great mindā€¦
If you know something we donā€™t, please share.
I am sorry these dicks brought this bullshit to your front door. I donā€™t expect France to stand by idly but to reign hell on some terrorists. We are your allies, we got your back.

I also miss your commentary. Itā€™s been to long old friend.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

They knew it in the 1980ā€™s. Just sayinā€™[

Yes, fuck the cradle of civilization. [/quote]

This ainā€™t about you or me. Itā€™s an emotional response and nothing more. Yes, fuck the middle east. They have been a torn in our collective assed for decades.
I do expect a declaration of war by France when all this is vetted out. Cutting the head off the snake is essential. I could hardly imagine you and I disagree on that??[/quote]

Why do you insist on treating an entire region, a shatterbelt no less, as a unitary actor?

Declarations of war are made between sovereign nation states. France has been at war against al-Qaida since 2001, and against ISIL for well over a year.

Yep, Iā€™m in favor of aggressive capture/kill missions targeting the leadership of terrorist organizations.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]

France is a lead participant in the coalition opposing ISIL. Some 1,200 (nearly half of all European jihadis) Frenchmen have joined ISIL. It isnā€™t unreasonable to suspect that the Paris attack was ISIL networked or inspired. ISIL also praised the attack on social media. AQAP hasnā€™t.
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The problem is they are not known for doing such attacks, their entire existence is based on expanding through their immediate and controllable area not organized attacks on foreign soil.

Also the social media thing was after my comment or at least before I heard about it. Either way, they claimed responsibility for the Russian plane yet are only praising this event.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]

France is a lead participant in the coalition opposing ISIL. Some 1,200 (nearly half of all European jihadis) Frenchmen have joined ISIL. It isnā€™t unreasonable to suspect that the Paris attack was ISIL networked or inspired. ISIL also praised the attack on social media. AQAP hasnā€™t.
[/quote]

The problem is they are not known for doing such attacks, their entire existence is based on expanding through their immediate and controllable area not organized attacks on foreign soil.

Also the social media thing was after my comment or at least before I heard about it. Either way, they claimed responsibility for the Russian plane yet are only praising this event.[/quote]

In January, Belgium thwarted a major gun and bomb plot by ISIL recruits believed to have been directed by the leadership of the group in Syria. In April, French police arrested a French radical directed in Turkey by French ISIL recruits to attack a church in Paris. A suspected ISIL gunman trained in Libya killed 30 British tourists and others on a Tunisian resort beach in June. ISIL also claimed a gun massacre of Western tourists at a Tunis museum in March. In August, another suspected ISIL recruit attempted to attack a high-speed passenger train on the Belgian-French border but was overpowered by three Americans. And in October, two suicide bombers whom Turkish investigators suspect were dispatched by ISIL in Syria killed more than 100 people at a rally in Ankara, Turkey.

Terrorist attacks can be described as directed, networked, or inspired. If the organization is responsible for the attack, itā€™s likely that it was directed or networked. For more on the subject, see Clinton Wattā€™s piece INSPIRED, NETWORKED & DIRECTED Ć¢?? THE MUDDLED JIHAD OF ISIS & AL QAEDA POST HEBDO.

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I think we need more diversity training, even some safe spaces where certain words which can trigger microaggressions cannot be spoken.

Tolerance and inclusion is the key to diffusing people who hate you because you simply exist.

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Very much worth a read, the book clearly outlines the genesis of the post Algerian War Arab presence in France and how the issue was swept under the rug:

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[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

What did you expect from a summa cum laude graduate of the University of Pittttbulll?
[/quote]

I always thought he was fine, but that post was about as classless as it gets.[/quote]

I just woke up to this news here in Afghanistan. My sincere condolences to the victims and their families. I have served alongside the French military and they are professional and courageous. May they hunt down and kill the cancerous filth that carried out this ā€œholy warā€ massacre. Fucking cowards, may they roast in hell for eternity.

As for the comment above about the deaths meaning nothing on a world scale, You could say the same thing about the Twin Towers, nearly 3000 died, but, on a world scale that means nothing. However, I lost two brothers in that attack and I have never forgot, never, ever, will forgive. Someone lost a lover, child, wife, or husband during that attack, so it will always mean something to them. Fucking extremist filth.
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Agreed, fuck extremists.[/quote]

The thing is theyā€™re not extremists.[/quote]

I think blowing yourself up makes you an extremist.[/quote]

I agree. What about all the millions who believe in strict sharia law?[/quote]

Are they actively trying to hurt, kill, and/or oppress us? If so, detain or kill them.

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]kamui wrote:
My brother lives a few streets away from the Bataclan.
My best friend lives close to the Stade de France.

Both are alive.

A friend of a friend (who happens to have bad musical taste) was IN the Bataclan and managed to escape without harm.

And according to facebook most of my parisian friends are safe.

Lucky friday the 13th for me.

going back to lurking mode now.
See you in a dozen of pages.

[/quote]

I was specifically thinking of you. I thank the God of Abraham and Issac that you are ok.
Since you are closest to the situation, any any inside information would be appreciated.
Seriously, I am glad you are ok, or the world would have lost a great mindā€¦
If you know something we donā€™t, please share.
I am sorry these dicks brought this bullshit to your front door. I donā€™t expect France to stand by idly but to reign hell on some terrorists. We are your allies, we got your back.

I also miss your commentary. Itā€™s been to long old friend.[/quote]

Thanks.

Not much to add in matter of informations.
Iā€™m in ā€œile de Franceā€ but not in Paris intra muros. Nothing moves in my area. No one in the streets. Stores are closed. Everything seems weirdly ā€œfrozenā€ right now.
On facebook and on tv everyone suddenly turned into a geopolitics and security expert. My bullshitOmeter exploded hours ago.

Iā€™m afraid i wonā€™t come back here too often. I will very busy in the future.
Cause for each of my brothers they killed, i will fuck one of their sisters.

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I find it hilarious that after hundreds of years of zero proof of the gods existence are people still willing to just throw their lives away. I always wondered if there is some immediate moment of realisation just right after the bomb suicide like: ā€œoh there is no afterlife paradise, what a moron I amā€¦ā€

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[quote]kamui wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]kamui wrote:
My brother lives a few streets away from the Bataclan.
My best friend lives close to the Stade de France.

Both are alive.

A friend of a friend (who happens to have bad musical taste) was IN the Bataclan and managed to escape without harm.

And according to facebook most of my parisian friends are safe.

Lucky friday the 13th for me.

going back to lurking mode now.
See you in a dozen of pages.

[/quote]

I was specifically thinking of you. I thank the God of Abraham and Issac that you are ok.
Since you are closest to the situation, any any inside information would be appreciated.
Seriously, I am glad you are ok, or the world would have lost a great mindā€¦
If you know something we donā€™t, please share.
I am sorry these dicks brought this bullshit to your front door. I donā€™t expect France to stand by idly but to reign hell on some terrorists. We are your allies, we got your back.

I also miss your commentary. Itā€™s been to long old friend.[/quote]

Thanks.

Not much to add in matter of informations.
Iā€™m in ā€œile de Franceā€ but not in Paris intra muros. Nothing moves in my area. No one in the streets. Stores are closed. Everything seems weirdly ā€œfrozenā€ right now.
On facebook and on tv everyone suddenly turned into a geopolitics and security expert. My bullshitOmeter exploded hours ago.

Iā€™m afraid i wonā€™t come back here too often. I will very busy in the future.
Cause for each of my brothers they killed, i will fuck one of their sisters.
[/quote]

Haha. Kamui, Iā€™ll break out of lurker status to let you know that I, also, am thrilled to hear that you, at least, are okay. Take care of yourself.

Also, if you get the chance, shoot me an email at the address in my hub. Iā€™d like to meet up with you one day in the future.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]
[/quote]

I said suspect, not the one eventually found to be guilty. Your answering my question with new information. Yesterday at 9pm EST would this image have been your response?

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]
[/quote]

I said suspect, not the one eventually found to be guilty. Your answering my question with new information. Yesterday at 9pm EST would this image have been your response?[/quote]

Your statment was a dumb one, just let it go. People died and your talking about fucking climate change.

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Can some one tell me how many people died at the bombings in Turkey last month? How many in Beirut 2 days ago? I donā€™t expect the average tnation commenter to be bright but fcking hell there are still people here thinking Islam is a religion of hate.

Wake - the - fuck - up

The biggest reason lack of peace in this world is the shit stirring, money greed- blood seeking governments, politicians and bankers and USA is leading the list. Millions have been slaughtered during your endeavors in Middle East to fill the pockets of your politicians & bankers, yet none recognized by you hypocrites or bought off prostitute media.

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this is good

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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

Well lets start with the first one. Why is ISIL the most likely suspect? Again Iā€™m not saying it wasnā€™t them, Iā€™m just saying without knowing anything they are not the first choice. [/quote]
[/quote]

I said suspect, not the one eventually found to be guilty. Your answering my question with new information. Yesterday at 9pm EST would this image have been your response?[/quote]

I believed ISIL was the likely culprit as soon as I learned of the attacks. Itā€™s only a matter of if and when violent jihadism will come full circle when 1,200 of a stateā€™s citizens emigrate to a terrorist quasi-state.

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[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
Typical PWI responses, just some facts

  • Al qaeda is the obvious first choice for blame on organized attacks outside of the region, not ISIL
  • If you factor this into a yearly death average gun control is still in the liberals favor in respects to Paris
  • Compared to our world population these death tolls are nothing, climate change is still unknown so it canā€™t be dismissed as a smaller problem.[/quote]

What a dumb fucking thing to type.[/quote]

What did you expect from a summa cum laude graduate of the University of Pittttbulll?
[/quote]

I always thought he was fine, but that post was about as classless as it gets.[/quote]

I just woke up to this news here in Afghanistan. My sincere condolences to the victims and their families. I have served alongside the French military and they are professional and courageous. May they hunt down and kill the cancerous filth that carried out this ā€œholy warā€ massacre. Fucking cowards, may they roast in hell for eternity.

As for the comment above about the deaths meaning nothing on a world scale, You could say the same thing about the Twin Towers, nearly 3000 died, but, on a world scale that means nothing. However, I lost two brothers in that attack and I have never forgot, never, ever, will forgive. Someone lost a lover, child, wife, or husband during that attack, so it will always mean something to them. Fucking extremist filth.
[/quote]

My sincerest condolences for your loss. 2,977 were murdered on that fateful day. Their deaths must never fade from our hearts and minds. Thank you your service, and happy hunting.

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ISILā€™s statement claiming responsibility for the Paris attack.

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[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

They knew it in the 1980ā€™s. Just sayinā€™[

Yes, fuck the cradle of civilization. [/quote]

This ainā€™t about you or me. Itā€™s an emotional response and nothing more. Yes, fuck the middle east. They have been a torn in our collective assed for decades.
I do expect a declaration of war by France when all this is vetted out. Cutting the head off the snake is essential. I could hardly imagine you and I disagree on that??[/quote]

Why do you insist on treating an entire region, a shatterbelt no less, as a unitary actor?

Declarations of war are made between sovereign nation states. France has been at war against al-Qaida since 2001, and against ISIL for well over a year.

Yep, Iā€™m in favor of aggressive capture/kill missions targeting the leadership of terrorist organizations. [/quote]
Give it a rest, biz.